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The worst I remember.
Duncan need to hang to some star like Zo did it last season to win a championship
Javtokas told, to lithuanian newspaper, that Spurs offered him twice less, than Panatinaikos ! it will be around 1y/750.000 !
P.S pafetic spurs offseason !
The worst I remember.
Duncan need to hang to some star like Zo did it last season to win a championship
Wait wait wait. So the Spurs offered Elson $3mil/year, Butler $2.5mil/year, but only offered Javtokas less than a million a year? What the ? I mean, Javtokas is an unproven NBA player and all, but you can't tell me Elson and Butler are worth 3 times as much. That is lame as , and if true, will tarnish the Spurs drafting rep...I mean, who wants to be drafted by a team that will not sign you (first Scola and now Javtokas), or at least for more than a Euroleague team. Gross.
I can't believe they didn't at least offer him the LLE.
was that euro's or usa money
it matters because 1.6 million is over 2 million usa
and was it only one year?
They offered him a kick in the nuts
I don't understand it, but maybe the kid just isn't good enough. Or maybe he is but RC and Pop don't think he is. Who knows...
regular season . . .
8 points, 6.4 rebounds, 0.8 blocks
2 playoff games
5.5 points, 3 rebounds, 0 blocks
http://www.euroleague.net/plantillas...&temporada=E00
I'm sorry, I wanted Javtokas here too, but I rather go with players who have been playing in the NBA for some time and could adapt to our system much quicker. You guys forget, Javtokas would have to make a an adjustment to the NBA and we all saw what happened with Oberto last year. I really don't want a repeat of the same thing this year. We are much better off with possibly Elson and Butler rather than just Javtokas and Oberto. I don't think the Spurs wanted to pay Javtokas to the type of money he wanted because really he hasn't proven his worth in the NBA yet. How can you justify paying him more when he hasn't done anything? At least Elson and Butler have played and have market value, you can't compare Javtokas to them.
He told, that spurs offered twice less ! PANO singed him 1.6mln. EUROS !
I'm beginning to wonder if the Spurs split the MLE 3 ways- leaving Robertas with the part that went over the fence last. Then, when he was not too thrilled, they told him to wait another week and see if one of the other offers did not get matched and then maybe they might offer him more money. It explains why he was so surprised at the Spurs extending those two offer sheets and also why his agent said the Spurs did not make a reasonable offer. The Spurs do not intend to spend the LLE this year- all signings would come from the MLE and minimum contracts. If the Spurs wanted to pay Elson $3M and Robertas $800,000- no wonder he wasn't too happy. I think that when these things happen over and over, you have to look at the common denominator.
And I'm sure his agent was completely truthful with him on that.
Why do you care about the players the front office gets? The NBA is fixed (according to you)... so if it says in the script the Spurs will win the championship, they will. It doesn't matter whether these acquisitions are good players; it matters only whether they can portray good players.
i don't see it noted, but to clarify, those are Elson's euroleague stats from when he was about Javtokas's ageregular season . . .
8 points, 6.4 rebounds, 0.8 blocks
2 playoff games
5.5 points, 3 rebounds, 0 blocks
http://www.euroleague.net/plantilla...E&temporada=E00
It looks like Elson has always disappeared in playoff games.
that is javNOT ELSON
lolthat is jav NOT ELSON
Javtokas Euroleague playoff stats (top 16)
9.5 points - 10.0 rebounds - 2.6 blocks
Javtokas LKL finals stats (4 games)
15 points - 9 rebounds - 2.25 blocks
more useless facts
Oberto's last euroleague playoff stats, 03/04 (top 16)
10.7 points, 5.0 rebounds, 0.2 blocks 22:33 minutes/seconds average
Javtokas top 16 minutes, 32:10 minutes/seconds average
At the average rate of the Eur against the Dollar for the past few days, that works out to over $2,000,000.
With the anticipated rise in the value of the Euro vs. the Dollar in the next year because of slowing US economy, etc. the value of his contract could be substantially more.
I don't know what the taxes in Greece would be vs. the percentage in the US on that type of income.
ducks is a moron. can't even click a link and see it's Elson
I look at Javtokas's stats rising in pressure games and there's really nothing more to say. You couldn't find a more prepared player on the defensive side coming out of Europe and heading into his prime. Picking Elson is a collosal mistake, but... oh well.
Neither Elson nor Butler have proven their worth in the NBA either, so that's not really a good argument to me. I think they just may have believed he's still too much of a project at this point, especially if he had trouble passing. I think they could live without the offense for a bit but not passing. Defensively, Javtokas is ready, read the "spur insider" post about him.
Everyone keeps going back to the argument about being a draft pick versus a free agent. They say that Javtokas should have taken the money and then tried to make more later. Maybe so, but remember that the argument cuts both ways. It's in the best interest of the Spurs to bring him over and develop his other skills as soon as possible when he is physically ready (which he obviously is). To delay is to waste a year of productivity. The balance is a respectable offer, which they apparently did not put forth.
Javtokas would have accepted the Elson offer. He already had the Panathinaikos offer on the table and knew the SA offer would have been much higher.
Maybe the Spurs utterly lowballed him, gave him numbers far under the Pan contract. His side said "No," and expected the next step in negotiation. A step which never happened - SA turned around and offered a lot more to Elson instead.
There are a number of ways this might've worked out. Bottom line is, RJ was not asking for an exorbitant amount of money. The amount hadn't even been set yet. The Spurs did their "We're gonna be hardasses" thing and cut him out.
Like it or not, Elson started 54 games on a WC playoff team.Neither Elson nor Butler have proven their worth in the NBA either
And then, in the playoffs, had one of the worst productivities of any player in the postseason. Denver was demonstratively worse when he was on the court.
RJ didn't want to wait on the Spurs and the Spurs weren't going to wait on going with the two contracts they had already worked out.
Period.
you're an idiot.by trying to change the subject, and avoid my statements basic truths, you inadvertantly valided every word I said.
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