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    maybe because they didnt know how to?
    They didn`t know how to? They did in some previous games...

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    Somewhere along the line, the country forgot how to play basketball. It's just an individual game now, in a team concept, much like baseball is. The players don't care about knowing how to play together, they just want to score. The only time they'll pass the ball is to make the "assist" pass for their stats. But nobody wants to make the pass that leads to the assist. Nobody wants to set a screen. In the NBA if they have a play that even involves 3 guys touching the ball anymore, a team is regarded as the second coming of the 70 Knicks, it's pathetic.

    Thank God I'm a Spurs fan, or else the NBA would be completely unwatchable. Can you imagine if team Argentina was its own NBA team? They'd never lose. And their whole payroll would be much less than the Knicks.

    great post

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    Yeah and Texas is not trully considered as US state.
    That won't provoke a response. I don't think timvp cares at all about Texas

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    Basketball is a team sport...

    If you get triple team pass the ball. There is no extra point for degree of difficulty.

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    Before this game, LeBron was shooting 59% from the floor -- highest on the team. And Wade was shooting 54% -- higher than Carmelo. So I don't think you can knock LeBron and Wade's shooting (except Wade should never shoot 3's ).
    You can knock their shot selection though. Their high percentage is MOSTLY because of fast break dunks by gambling for steals on defense. Wade/LeBron have consistently made horrible shots at the wrong time.

    In the last game when US was trailing Wade tried to bank a three and missed horribly. Then he drives the lane, leans his body, and throw up a wild shot expecting a foul. Then he jogs back on D. Wade should

    Lebron could have been switched with any good athlete in the US and nothing would have changed. Got steals and dunks but what's up with the pull up 3 pt shooting.

    Since when did Bron/Wade become three point shooters. One word. Ego

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    That won't provoke a response. I don't think timvp cares at all about Texas
    he can insert state name, he is currently fond of

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    See, that's because they played with heart so they're going to show some emotion, something Team USA needed today.
    True. U.S. at the beginning had that familiar look of overconfidence. They were expecting to be in the gold medal game. Maybe be challenged there, but they didn't show any emotion except desperation in the last 5 minutes.

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    I think the team U.S.A needs an european coach for the difference between fiba and Nba. Ettore Messina is the greatest european coach
    great idea

    Messina,Di Antoni and Popovich

    that would be a good coaching staff



    not some College legend-if he is so damn good why isnt he in the nba? (serious question)

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    You can knock their shot selection though. Their high percentage is MOSTLY because of fast break dunks by gambling for steals on defense. Wade/LeBron have consistently made horrible shots at the wrong time.

    In the last game when US was trailing Wade tried to bank a three and missed horribly. Then he drives the lane, leans his body, and throw up a wild shot expecting a foul. Then he jogs back on D. Wade should

    Lebron could have been switched with any good athlete in the US and nothing would have changed. Got steals and dunks but what's up with the pull up 3 pt shooting.

    Since when did Bron/Wade become three point shooters. One word. Ego
    Wade was horrible in the Germany game. But in 7 games before today he only took 12 three-pointers total. That's not many. So it's not ego because he isn't taking that many. The problem is he just only made one of 12.

    I disagree about LeBron. He rebounded well in the tournament and he was second in assists to Paul. I think he played a nice well-rounded set of games and wasn't selfish at all.

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    Hmmm, they made it to the finals maybe??? They`ll get a medal, win or lose...
    The question was why didn't the US players congratulate the Greece players. Your missing the point at hand. It wasn't about the team celebrating it was the fact that they did it as soon as the game was over. Celebrate all you want, but the least you can do is shake hands with the compe ion first.

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    It was more less the US being out coached, and a whole lot of mismatches through the pick n roll than defense intensity.

    Coach didn't even use Josh Howard in the second half. He was playing good basketball first half!

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    Since when did Bron/Wade become three point shooters. One word. Ego
    It's think the problem lies with the Coach not reining them in, more than Wade and Bron.

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    See, that's because they played with heart so they're going to show some emotion, something Team USA needed today.
    Well seeing that your a mav fan I can understand you dont see anything wrong with premature celebration.

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    I dont understand why the US kept settling for the damn jumpshots, it was obvious they werent falling, I dont care how much confidence you have shooting them. The outside shots might have kept us in the game but its also what killed is. That and the 87548 missed free throws.

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    SIXTH MAN,
    Greece accomplished its greatest win ever, noone predicted it. They can celebrate all they want as far as I'm concerned.

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    you probably mean turkey, right ?
    probably

    Israel also isnt looked upon as an Euro country even if their teams play in Euro compe ions; also Russia (well hard to say anything here when u border with Finland on one side and China and Japan on other )

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    Coach didn't even use Josh Howard in the second half. He was playing good basketball first half!

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    Well seeing that your a mav fan I can understand you dont see anything wrong with premature celebration.

    Lol, that's pretty good...I'm over it, looking forward to Nov. 2, got my season tix last week.

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    Anyways, good game. Congrats to Greece. What I don`t understand is how come the US didn`t play agressive defense? Were they not mentaly tough enough to do it after the Greeks started leading?

    BTW, Tlong, where art thou?

    They are over confident!!!!

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    I dont understand why the US kept settling for the damn jumpshots, it was obvious they werent falling, I dont care how much confidence you have shooting them. The outside shots might have kept us in the game but its also what killed is. That and the 87548 missed free throws.

    Maybe it had something to do with the fact that the average height on the Greek team was 6'8" and all defense. These guys weren't just clogging the lane they were defending it well.


    Coach didn't even use Josh Howard in the second half. He was playing good basketball first half!
    I'm so glad Josh decided to stay home and do something for his community.

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    Oh well. Manu better not lose to Grizzly Gasol now.

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    I have to give credit to Greece. That team played an incredible basketball game and derserved the victory. I thought the officials were outstanding in this game. The game was called very fairly both ways. Contact was allowed when it didn't affect the shot and was called the same on both ends. Give the refs some love ! I think now the USA has to realize that the AND ONE crap does not work !...... Team Basketball will beat individual talent nine times out of ten. I think the USA screwed up by not having Bowen out there to guard the hot shooters. That is their fault. Greece deserved the win. Give them all the credit. I am ready to watch Manu play now! Go Argentina !!!

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    I dont understand why the US kept settling for the damn jumpshots, it was obvious they werent falling, I dont care how much confidence you have shooting them. The outside shots might have kept us in the game but its also what killed is. That and the 87548 missed free throws.
    They were just a mess after Greece got the lead. Like a chicken with its head cut off. It was funny, now that I think about it.

    At the same time pitiful.

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    The thing I really noticed about this game is that for the most part, USA defied all the stereotypes and excuses that were put on the past WC and Olympic teams that couldn't get it done.

    "Bunch of selfish arrogant knuckleheads"
    "They don't play hard, don't respect their compe ion"
    "Nobody on the team can shoot"
    "Nobody tries on defense"

    No, no, no, and no. Besides maybe Joe Johnson, there wasn't really any arrogant or unlikable players on Team USA this year. I think Colangelo did a good job with that. I think even Carmelo has taken major strides at maturing. And the team definitely had enough guys to stroke threes and shoot jumpers. They were a better shooting team than Greece coming in. And as poorly as they played on defense, I don't think it was because they weren't trying. The team tried their asses off.

    No the reason they lost was...

    THEY WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH. The game wasn't a fluke. Greece just played better, period. The thing about basketball is that the way the game was designed, the offense has all the advantages. They know what they're doing with the ball, the other team can only guess and play the percentages. If you have five skilled players working together, it's incredibly hard to stop them on defense, no matter how hard you try. The best you can do as a defense is give up an open jump shot and hope the guy misses. Greece had size, skill, they shot incredibly from inside and out, and they played unselfishly so nobody ever forced a poor shot when a better one was available with patience.

    Quite frankly I knew this was coming, if not in this game, then against Spain or Argentina next game. Team USA's defense is predicated on forcing turnovers by pressuring less skilled ballhandlers. But against Greece today or against a Pepe Sanchez, they're going to give up tons of layups because they won't get the easy turnovers. Consequently, it will effect them on the other end of the floor because they won't get all the easy 3 on 1 dunks.

    The only way Team USA can win a gold is to get 12 players to play together for a long time, but that's just not going to happen.

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    SIXTH MAN,
    Greece accomplished its greatest win ever, noone predicted it. They can celebrate all they want as far as I'm concerned.
    Wouldn't winning the gold be the greatest win ever? Greece beat a team that had a lot of questions going in to the tournament, and that only won bronze last time around. A greater accomplishment would be defeating a gold medal team like Argentina.

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