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I rather benched Manu than Bruce.
Bruce need to start to defend on the best opposite swingman.
Maggette is shooting .118 from downtown this year.
I rather benched Manu than Bruce.
Bruce need to start to defend on the best opposite swingman.
The Spurs aren't interested in him for his 3-pt shooting. They have more than enough of that.
"imagine that type of player, any player, could decline that fast ?"
We aren't talking only about physical decline. Tim can do now, and for a couple more years, what he did last playoffs.
I think his problems, this year, are primarily mental, not physical, like PF or sprained ankles or age.
Not attentive, not aggressive, not compe ive, and its affecting those qualities for the team overall. Defense is off, rebounding (aka desire) is off. As in the Dallas game, when the Spurs do get the defense and rebounding up to par, they can't maintain it for 48 minutes.
Wow, Spurs actually realizing that they won't be winning anything with their current team? I like the new plans the Spurs have. However, am I the only one that would prefer to have Finley over Barry as the 3rd man? Reason is, I think it would be more beneficial for the SPurs in the long run to get Finley going and out of his slump. Not only because his defense, but Barry has shown that he often disappears in big games. Finley played really well for us in the playoffs last year and I think if he gets his shot going, that'll open the floor up for everyone else.
"The Spurs continue to pursue trade possibilities. Friday's loss also further exposed the difficulties the Spurs have in matching up with the Mavericks, given their lack of athleticism at some positions." San Antonio Express-News
"(Spurs) team officials continue to speak with the Clippers about swingman Corey Maggette. The Spurs have been hesitant about parting with both Barry and Udrih in a possible deal, but that could change." San Antonio Express-News
"Matt Bonner's name also has come up in talks with the Clippers." San Antonio Express-News
"Like everybody else, the Spurs have spoken to the Clippers about Corey Maggette, and to illustrate how far Maggette has slipped in everyone's mind, San Antonio is reluctant to part with 35-year-old Brent Barry in the deal, because Brent's hitting nearly 50 percent of his 3's this year." Newark Star-Ledger
"The Clippers, according to a Western Conference official, are in talks with at least three other teams, and might not feel as pressured to move Maggette given that they also have fielded offers for Cuttino Mobley." San Antonio Express-News
"The Spurs have inquired about Toronto forward Morris Peterson, but those conversations haven't yielded much." San Antonio Express-News
Spurs trying to go after Mo Pete too?
Sorry to burst your bubble. Finley's not in a slump. This is what he has become. It is who he is. As several of my Mavs friends have too often informed me, Finley will have 1 good game about every 10 games or so. There's no such thing as a season long slump. He's neither clutch or crucial. He's simply an inconsistent shooter, who has occasional flashes of his former self.
Granted, he did have a fine series versus the Mavs. He was a very motivated player. That was the Finley of 7 years ago. However you have to ask yourself, why doesn't he play that way all the time? I'll tell you why. Because he can't.
His game is SOLELY predicated on his ability to hit jump shots. When his shot is falling,he's a much livelier player. If his shot isn't falling, his presence on the court is useless. He's not a gifted defender, but can when inspired. He's not a terribly good rebounder. He doesn't break down defenses, cannot create his own shot and has a terrible handle. Whether it be age, tendinitis, diminished skills or all of the above, he cannot be depended upon as a key component of the Spurs championship desires.
In no way is this an endorsement for Barry, who is just as inconsistent and passive in his own right. Let's hope the Spurs ship him out to the good ship "Clipper".
If the Spurs do somehow obtain Maggette, that would solve the Finley dilemma because his minutes should decrease dramatically - and that would be a good thing.
I'm not saying Finley is great, I'm just saying if I had a choice between him and Barry, I'd pick Finley. When Barry's shot isn't falling, he usually doesn't do much of anything else either. He's not a good rebounder, his defense is atrocious, he has no mid-range shot even if his shots are falling. He's a better passer but that's about it.
Understand. I just think they're two dogs with very similar fleas. The mere fact that inquiries are being made and trade possibilities are being discussed that include Barry should tell you his value is around the league.
I seriously doubt there are any teams interested in trading for Finley or having him included as part of any trade packages.
Spurs don't need to trade Finley, that's why there's no interest. Cuban is basically paying for him to be on our team. Salary-wise he'd be hard to match.
from what I've read over here some people think not only that he's lacking some will but that he's done and are almost giving up on him.
If it's about agressiveness so you can't talk about "decline". This is something that can be fixed.
Every player can go through hard times sometimes, for many reasons. They're human.
Sooner than later, Tim is gonna get going again. It's a question of time. Never underestimate the heart of a champion.
Word.
Looks like its time to Shake The Crime Stick!!!!!
Woo hoo! Spurs are going to get Maggette!!!
In other news:
Lakers are gettin KG.
So are the Kings (KG).
Alles Gute zum Geburtstag.
Danke.Actually I have on Jan 8th, so the Spurs are playing while it is 0.00 in Germany. I hope they win...
finley/beno straight up for vince young. you know that guy could play in the nba.
It's about time...I knew the Spurs were lurkers at SpursTalk. Let's see what they actually do with this newly found wisdom.
Wow- it took me almost an hour to read all the way through this thread.
(I was distracted a bit by the Toronto game. They're beating Washington by ten with 4:15 left in the third.
It was interesting to have access to so many takes in on sitting.
Wow, that is quick.
I'd be sad to part with any of the B's- Beno, Brent, or Bonner.
I feel the team needs reviving. I'm rooting for everyone on this current squad to remember themselves, step up their game, stay together, and win.
I like the underlined. My concern with Timmy, actually the whole team, is not how they are acting but why... what is wrong with them?
The effects of whatever the ailment is obvious, but I can't pinpoint the cause.
Yes... but again, why? Why are the Spurs not being the Spurs?
I feel that too.
B O N N E R For A Crown And Coke At The Saddles And Spurs Club Is A Great Deal......
At Bonner For Maggette....
That just shows how much he needs Chip Engelland. He shot well enough earlier in his career that he should be able to get back to 33-35%.
This is from 2001:
Q: It seemed like you improved your perimeter game last season. Is that something you need to continue to work on to take that next step up?
Maggette: I credit that to my coaches, and especially Chip Engelland, who went here. Also Johnny Dawkins, who contacted (Chip) and got him to work with me, and Grant Hill, because Chip works for him and he allowed him to work with me.
Looks like Chip played a big part.
How does Maggette solve the problem of no backup point guard and a big hole in the middle that Duncan can't fill? Huh?
The Spurs have enough of these guys.
Chip Engellend obviously did wonders for Grant's three-ball.
We need to draft those guys in this year's draft. For the PG Acie Law, and for the big either sign Varejao, Hayes, Justin Williams, or draft Alexis Ajinca.
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