Bennett Salvatore

[T Park]

Take your own advice. You're one of the biggest homers on here

Aggie is anything but a goddamn homer.


Now I know you don't know what Homer means and your just throwing that damn word around now...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It's absolutely hilarious how Spurs fans are trying to defend Davis...

Go back and look at the final minute of the 3rd quarter. Davis already had a technical, so he knew they wouldn’t eject him, right? So, he fouls Josh Howard and yells right in the face of a ref who looks the other way. He fouls Jerry Stackhouse, and screams when called for the foul. He then stands and claps at the ref for no fewer than 10 seconds. He was warned, and his coach told him to knock it off, too. And people think the ref got carried away?

1. You defended the Duncan ejection. Which means you have zero credibility.

2. No one is defending Baron if you take his actions in a vacuum, ie, don't look at them in the context of the game.

But let's face it, it's a double standard when Baron gets tossed for what he did but guys like Devin Harris on the Mavs can jump up and down and kick the court while cussing at an official after they get their third foul on an obvious reach in hack while not getting so much as a warning from the stripes.

Baron deserved his second technical for how he acted. But about three Mavs made comparable 'disagreements' with the officiating last night, and none got so much as a warning.

That's what Spurs fans are upset about (well, and the obvious phantom fouls that were being rung up on GS in record time last night), not Baron's second technical.

Try reading sometime.

[LEONARD]

Dude, coming from someone that defended the Duncan ejection, you shouldnt be laughing at anything

I didn't defend Crawford's actions...I just pointed out what happened by breaking down the replays as far as who was where on the court and what set Crawford off because people here were saying that Duncan didn't even look at Crawford, others were laughing with him, etc...

are u not the same fellow who after like a million threads (trying to justify what joey crawford did) wouldn't let it go.....? ok baron davis ed up. i see YOUR INSIGHT in every single thread! point made and taken...now let errr one else vent!

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1. You defended the Duncan ejection. Which means you have zero credibility.

2. No one is defending Baron if you take his actions in a vacuum, ie, don't look at them in the context of the game.

But let's face it, it's a double standard when Baron gets tossed for what he did but guys like Devin Harris on the Mavs can jump up and down and kick the court while cussing at an official after they get their third foul on an obvious reach in hack while not getting so much as a warning from the stripes.

Baron deserved his second technical for how he acted. But about three Mavs made comparable 'disagreements' with the officiating last night, and none got so much as a warning.

That's what Spurs fans are upset about (well, and the obvious phantom fouls that were being rung up on GS in record time last night), not Baron's second technical.

Try reading sometime.

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and I never saw Devin do anything close to what Baron did (ie, screaming right in ref's faces, etc)

[T Park]

If you get a stupid technical in a Playoff game, you should keep your mouth shut so you don't get another one.

That's what separates professionals from dunces.

Agreed. Baron should have only had 1 T though.

The first one was completely bogus.

[Shank]

Jackson shouldn't have been ejected in the first place, because his firts technical was complete bull .


Now your bagging on baron Davis "he couldn't hang"

Give me a friggen break.

Did Dallas take him out of his game last night?
Was Davis having to take it inside against bigger players all night, with little success? Was this getting to him mentally when you combine it with not being able to hit the same shots he did on Sunday night?
Did the pressure of a big game one fall on his shoulders to come up big in game two? And did he meet those expectations?

Last night, Baron Davis couldn't hang. He wasn't getting what he wanted and the pressure carrying over from game one was too much for his shoulders. He lost control and was subsequently thrown out for it. Cooler heads prevail.

Yes or no - would the Warriors have won with Davis in there for the 4th quarter, even with the subpar game he had played for the first 3 quarters? A 'yes' answer shows your obviously anti-all-things-Mavs bias. A 'no' answer doesn't necessarily make you a Mavs fan, but someone that understood how last night's game would have played out in the 4th given how the respective teams were playing so far.

[ambchang]

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. I thought the refs were trained to ignore this sort of confrontation."
I went to bed after Davis was ejected, it was just too obvious who was going to win, and no matter how well GS played afterwards, there is absolutely QUOTE]

GS didn't play well, they had lots of turnovers, as is their wont, they don't use a lot of ball movement, they just jack up a lot of shots Rucker League style, they have no interior d and everyone except Dirk took advantage of it since we can get a layup or dunk anytime we want. Avery used the bigs tonite and it helped a lot -- packing the paint and grinding them down, the Warriors started settling for pullup jumpers in the third when the Mavs made their run and started to tire them out. Anytime Salvatore is involved, BOTH teams are going to get some bad calls going against them -- the Warriors got some tickytack fouls or no calls go against them, but so did Dallas. And when they weren't able to get the looks they usually get against lesser teams but not against a top team like Dallas, they lost their cool and Davis INTENTIONALLY got himself thrown out, probably to save his knees for Game Three.

Please, let's talk basketball.

I am not disputing that the Warriors didn't play well in the 1st 3 quarters. I watched all of it, so I know they were jacking up unbelievably bad shots, or that they didn't play a lick of defense. I also saw how Davis shred the Dallas defense to pieces, but could get knocked on his butt and not get called for a foul.
And yes, IF the refs were calling the game fairly and IF both teams played the way they played the 1st 3 quarters, the Mavs would have won, no question about it. Neither team played good defense, but the Mavs were more selective on their shots.
My point is that no matter what the Warriors did in the 4th quarter, even if they caught fire and started draining contested fade-away halfcourt shots, they would have lost because the writing was already on the wall.

[mardigan]

I didn't defend Crawford's actions...I just pointed out what happened by breaking down the replays as far as who was where on the court and what set Crawford off because people here were saying that Duncan didn't even look at Crawford, others were laughing with him, etc...



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Well you just have to realize then that for us Spur fans, anyone that could rationalize Duncans call of course would do it for Barons

[monosylab1k]

Aggie is anything but a goddamn homer.


Now I know you don't know what Homer means and your just throwing that damn word around now...

do you know what Homer means?

[DarrinS]

Refs are human, but Ive never so many horrible calls in one game. Im not saying its the reason the Mavs won, but it sure helped. The Spurs got some officiating their way too last night, at least I can admit it.

There a clean block by either Nene or Camby (i forget) on Duncan, and they called it a foul -- bad call. Also, Iverson didn't get to the line ONCE, which is kind of strange considering how many shots he took.

But there was also a non-call when Manu was pushed out of bounds. For the most part, I think calls went in the Spurs favor, but I don't belive it would have mattered in this game.

[stretch]

Refs are human, but Ive never so many horrible calls in one game. Im not saying its the reason the Mavs won, but it sure helped. The Spurs got some officiating their way too last night, at least I can admit it.

There were calls going both ways. What about the bull foul they called against Buckner when he blindly ran into a pick by steven jackson? or that ridiculous charge called against Howard when Davis clearly did not have the proper stance for drawing a charge? The officiating was pretty bad, period.

[T Park]

would the Warriors have won with Davis in there for the 4th quarter, even with the subpar game he had played for the first 3 quarters? A 'yes' answer shows your obviously anti-all-things-Mavs bias. A 'no' answer doesn't necessarily make you a Mavs fan, but someone that understood how last night's game would have played out in the 4th given how the respective teams were playing so far.

Quarters 1 through 3, with baron in there, the Warriors were within 6 and had the lead. Until the refs inserted their bias, didn't allow the Warriors to play D anymore, and ejected Davis for "clapping"

Whatever.

[T Park]

Also, Iverson didn't get to the line ONCE, which is kind of strange considering how many shots he took.

Well, seeing as it was about 99% jumpshots. what is the problem?

[LEONARD]

Quarters 1 through 3, with baron in there, the Warriors were within 6 and had the lead. Until the refs inserted their bias, didn't allow the Warriors to play D anymore, and ejected Davis for "clapping"

Whatever.

I love it...whiny ing es....

[T Park]

I love it, homeristic stupidty.

[LEONARD]

Well, seeing as it was about 99% jumpshots. what is the problem?

So Iverson never drove?

[Findog]

Well, seeing as it was about 99% jumpshots. what is the problem?

LOL, you are the definition of a blind homer....next W the Warriors get, you'll calmly dissect the game with X's and O's, and if/when Denver wins another game in their series, you'll scream bloody murder.

[T Park]

So Iverson never drove

Link to where I said "He never drove" please.

[Shank]

I don't know how many times it needs to be pointed out that Davis wasn't ejected for "just clapping". It was the fits he was throwing after every call leading up to the clapping that lead to the ejection. The clapping was merely the last straw.

But at least he was warned to stop. I supposed Baron Davis would still walk outside into a tornado even if the sirens were going off.

[mardigan]

Iverson was driving, he just never really drew any contact.

[monosylab1k]

I supposed Baron Davis would still walk outside into a tornado even if the sirens were going off.

yeah but it wouldn't be his fault because the Mavs and the Refs changed the weather patterns to create a tornado right on him.

[mardigan]

Baron Davis is one of the toughest guys to ever play in the NBA, ing tornados dont scare him

[LEONARD]

Link to where I said "He never drove" please.

99% of 25 shots is 24.75 shots, which rounds to 25, which means all 25 shots were jumpers...which means he never drove for a layup or layup attempt? I must've watched a different game...I saw him miss a ton of layups...

[monosylab1k]

Baron Davis is one of the toughest guys to ever play in the NBA

the fact that he hasn't played a full season since 01-02 says otherwise.

[Shank]

Taco Bell for lunch?

[monosylab1k]

Taco Bell for lunch?

don't give SPURS fans on a SPURS board suggestions for lunch, Mavfan.