Whats the general opinion of Spanoulis by SpursTalk posters? Would most posters be opposed to the idea of bringing him in next year? Or is his poor play in Houston condemnation enough to scare off most people?
If we could give him a low-risk contract with a team option I would be all over the idea. I firmly think he could contribute to this team. But I like the idea of playing him mostly at shooting guard and letting Parker/Washington/Vaughn control the point. In time, Vaughn could be released and Spanoulis could become the 3rd PG as well as a rotational wing player. The idea is similar to NFL teams having their 3rd QB also play WR.
Hmm James White is better than player on only undefeated team at 12-0 which lead his team in score point and assist and do so coming off bench.............
Sharas only used 15-20 minute by Panathinaikos coach because of lack of defense. Spanoulis and Diamantidis always finish game.
http://www.euroleague.net/main/resul...me?gamecode=69
My Kill_Bill_Pana trap is working.
Agree. As long as Spanoulis is cheap (at most the LLE), I really like the idea. However, I'm not that high on Spanoulis for $3M given that he has still failed in nba.
Dude wants nothing to do with the NBA period. The only way he will come is if he is guaranteed starters minutes and a nice contract.
Spanoulis is not going to be cheap. He signed an really big 3 year contract with Pana. How is he going to come over with that big contract?
Hmm Panathinaikos play without Greek league MVP and Euroleague final four MVP Diamantidis, coach tell them at half time take it easy on them and let up, coach play 2nd and 3rd unit..................coach instruct team at 25-30 point type leads stop making score worse..............
Spanoulsi instruct by coach to run offense all game not try even score.
You realizes Panathinaikos 12-0 and not even CSKA undefeated? Or did Spur fan not know coach instruct them not try against Rocket and Spur also?
You realize on Panathinaikos James White maybe 12th player on team? Or he want contract that Winston get and PAO laugh at him? Or you stupid like other fans not realize stat not matter on PAO team?
When PAO win triple crown I bring this post up again.
His salary plus his benefit = $3,807,000 of the American dollar. He not join NBA team unless get this amount obvious because Real Madrid and also FC Barcelona had offered him actual $4,500,000 in the US dollar with salary and benefit and he turn this down to play near family in Greece. If he can get $4.5 million in Spain he go there before NBA offer him LLE amount.
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 12-01-2007 at 02:38 PM.
Not true he say many time he ask Van Gundy only 10 minute each game and coach refuse. He ask only 10 minute each game first year with Spurs if he join them. It Van Gundy 51 games no play that make him mad.
My general opinion of Vagisilis Spanakopitas is that these continual threads about him are a waste of bandwidth.
Can somebody go find taruky and have him come deal with Kill_Bill_Pana?
Last edited by Extra Stout; 12-01-2007 at 03:55 PM. Reason: Misspelled "spanakopita." Mmm... spanakopita.
That he's a wuss with talent that is now afraid to play in the NBA and might cause chemistry issues if he doesn't get enough PT.
I don't think he really played that poorly in Houston for a rookie...but I think he handled his issues with Van Gundy and the Rockets badly...doesn't seem to be able to draw a line between the Spurs and the Rockets either.Would most posters be opposed to the idea of bringing him in next year? Or is his poor play in Houston condemnation enough to scare off most people?
Thanks for telling us he will never come back to the US.
End of thread.
He'll never be a Spur at that price, then. The Spurs will pay you...after you prove that you have an NBA game. He hasn't done that.
You just killed the argument that you've been making for weeks. The Spurs aren't giving this dude 4 million+ a year after he flamed out of the NBA (at least I hope they wouldn't). Let him stay in Greece or Spain, be successful and happy. For this guy it's better to be the big fish in the smaller pond.
With the sinking dollar, we'd have to pay him even more to equal what he's getting in euros.
I'm curious how he's playing now in Europe.
The Van Gundy situation says just as much about Jeff. He didn't deal with Bonzi well. If one was to make an opinion of Bonzi after only one year it wouldn't be that great either.
We'll probably never know if he could contribute here or not. Since the Euro leagues have increased their pay to their stars to a parity with our role players, there don't seem to be any 'steals' out there any longer.
Let's face it. If a guy has close family ties, a great situation on in his home team and virtual salary parity with whatever NBA team might want him, he may be quite right to stay where he is.
How many of you guys could make more money if they were willing to move out of SA but like it here and are willing to make that trade off?
In fact, the Spurs have built the franchise out of selling players on our quality of life in SA.
Some go for the idea (Tim Duncan, Robinson, Tony) and some go for bigger bucks and the bright lights.
Well if the Euroleagues are going to be paying big bucks like that, you're gonna have a bunch of NBA players jumping ship to play over there. Same thing happened when the ABA came into existence.
I'm not so sure about that. The NBA still has the prestige of being the elite league (and they are fairly elitest about it) and players definitely know it. Many will probably stay for that reason alone. Plus, I don't see many American players jumping ship to play in Europe. We're fairly ethnocentric around here and the idea of playing professionally in Europe is often degrading for your average collegiate athlete. Not when they could play in the NBA instead.
Spanoulis tell me he know NBA better than Greece league and also Euroleague. Also better than Spanish league but he also tell me NBA fan very wrong about Panathinaikos Athens and CSKA Moscow teams. He tell me both these teams even though only team in Europe both these team just as good as NBA team. Also he tell me coach tell Panathinaikos team not try in NBA games in Texas for risk of player injury in exhibition game that not count.
He tell me to team make invite to both NBA team for real game after season on neutral court.
You do realize that they came over here and played against pre-season NBA teams. They played against guys that are either overseas or in D-league now, and the stars of the team were pretty much going through the motions just waiting for the regular season to start. AND, they still got smoked by these NBA teams.
There's no motivation for the Spurs or even the Sonics to play another euro team on a neutral court.
His team one of 2 only team Greece undefeated at 6-0. He lead Greece league in assists per game.
In Euroleague his team ONLY undefeated team at 6-0.
Overall Panathinaikos team 12-0 and rank #1 team out of all team in Europe by eurobasket.com
Spanoulis lead overall team in point per game and assist per game. So he lead scorer and lead assist player on best team in Europe. He do this even comes off bench because Sani Becirovic (Nuggets draft pick) and Dimitris Diamantidis (Euroleague final 4 MVP, Greek MVP, Greek playoff MVP, Euroleague best defender award all last year) starters when he come there coach ask him if come off bench and he agree. Still even come off bench lead team in point and assist. Yes James White who agent ask PAO team for contract and managers laugh at his agent and Kennedy Winston instead get contract, and White who if on PAO be 12th man out of 14 player is better than Spanoulis
I think lead scorer and assist player on best team in Euroleague must be consider good NBA talent even if Van Gundy disagree. Rememebers Van Gundy think Alston " of a point guard" his own words. His judge of point guard players very weird.
Jasekivicius play like 15-20 minute and Spanoulis 26-30 minute on Panathinaikos and Spanoulis 2nd best defender of team and Jasekivicius 13th best defender of team. Denver Nuggets trying to get Becirovic to team and he play like 10-15 minute game. This give idea how Spanoulis talent is.
Also Jaka Lackovic have won 2 Greek MVP and 1 Greek playoff MVP and 1 Greek Cup MVP as Pana point guard and he not signs by team so Spanoulis can replace him. He get NBA offers to before. Tony Delk had been Spanoulis replacement when he leave for Houston and Delk get like 8 minute a game in same role Spanoulis get 29 minute.
Tony Parker have say Spanoulis better than Jose Calderon and Beno and best point guard he play against in Europe. Spurs have best scout and know what he capable of.
Actually be that it may, I would like to see a game between the Spurs and Pana and the Rockets and Pana on a court with combined FIBA/NBA rules. It would put to rest who is better. This is like an argument about who is better. The world champion of Karate vs the world champion of Kung Fu. Who would kick who's &$^%!
Coach tell them to lose on purpose. Spanoulis tell me owner of team have plan. After this they invite both team for neutral game place after season.
You do realize that they came over here and played against pre-season NBA teams. They played against guys that are either overseas or in D-league now, and the stars of the team were pretty much going through the motions just waiting for the regular season to start. AND, they still got smoked by these NBA teams.
There's no motivation for the Spurs or even the Sonics to play another euro team on a neutral court.
Houston refuse but Spurs accepts only say if both teams win championships.
Pana owner have setup plan for Euro champs against NBA champs afters season in real game not exhibition game and tricks Spurs to agree by losing on purpose in fake game in San Antonio. So if Spurs win championship we get first World Championship game even though it not be official recognized by ULEB or NBA. Pana win Euroleague for sure but Spurs has to also win NBA.
LOL that would be funny and of course Houston has much more to lose if they get torched by Vspan.
Can we please ban KBP?
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