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    Right.

    Where exactly does Artest want to go that he needs our help in a sign-and-trade at the season's end?
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=273

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    Oh.

    Great idea, then, guys.

    Or he could just walk and get the same money elsewhere without a sign-and-trade.

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    Oh.

    Great idea, then, guys.

    Or he could just walk and get the same money elsewhere without a sign-and-trade.
    That's just plain incorrect. If he's eyeing some team that's under the cap, sure, he could walk without the need for a sign-and-trade. I'll admit that Artest is strange enough that he might want to do that. But if he is interested in going to some team that's over the cap (which is the bulk of NBA teams) and is interested in something more than exception money, he's going to need a sign-and-trade.

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    "If he's eyeing some team that's under the cap, sure, he could walk without the need for a sign-and-trade."

    That's exactly what I meant in the first place, but I am all for building the case to bring Artest to the Spurs, so well done, timvp.

    I should have remembered the D. Anderson scenario... it's possible they could work that out with Artest, too, if nobody with money wants him this summer.

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    "If he's eyeing some team that's under the cap, sure, he could walk without the need for a sign-and-trade."

    That's exactly what I meant in the first place, but I am all for building the case to bring Artest to the Spurs, so well done, timvp.

    I should have remembered the D. Anderson scenario... it's possible they could work that out with Artest, too, if nobody with money wants him this summer.
    But like I say, there are more teams that are over the cap than there are teams that are under. And, frankly, most of the teams that are under don't present very enticing situations. Plus, Artest is going to be fighting with at least Antawn Jamison and perhaps Shawn Marion, Baron Davis, Jermaine O'Neal, Elton Brand, Allen Iverson, and Gilbert Arenas for the money that those teams might offer. That's without considering the restricted free agents who are going to be offered the moon in an effort to get them to change teams or to handcuff their own teams going forward.

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    But like I say, there are more teams that are over the cap than there are teams that are under. And, frankly, most of the teams that are under don't present very enticing situations. Plus, Artest is going to be fighting with at least Antawn Jamison and perhaps Shawn Marion, Baron Davis, Jermaine O'Neal, Elton Brand, Allen Iverson, and Gilbert Arenas for the money that those teams might offer. That's without considering the restricted free agents who are going to be offered the moon in an effort to get them to change teams or to handcuff their own teams going forward.
    Pardon my tone as I did not initially see the correlation ... I see now that a sign-and-trade might be possible.

    Yet another reason to do a deal for Artest!

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    http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/721778-p2.html

    Read it. Yet another reason not to go near Artest.

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    It seems that Artest for Barry + Elson + picks will happen.

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    It seems that Artest for Barry + Elson + picks will happen.
    For real??
    Don't get my hopes up for nothin' man

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    i heard that as well.

    dang it.........oh well.......

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    For real??
    Don't get my hopes up for nothin' man
    It is reported by a poster on boston realgm meassage board.
    http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=764202

    They consider him as a legit source of info. He works for Spurs (checked with his IP).

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    Nice.
    Thx for the info!
    Hope it'll be confirmed soon

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    Someone on the knicks board reported that they heard it on radio

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    It seems that Artest for Barry + Elson + picks will happen.
    really? hmm...not sure what to make of that.

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    It seems that Artest for Barry + Elson + picks will happen.
    WTF?

    No! Please don't tell me that. I don't want that guy as a Spur. That would be a bad, panic signing. He will screw our chemistry, it's Dennis Rodman all over again, mark my words.

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    What? If this is really true I have to calm myself down... If it was not Bruno who posted it, I would not believe it at all...

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    how many days left till trade deadline passes?

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    how many days left till trade deadline passes?
    i think thursday at 3pm...?

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    Why doesn't the guy post it on the Spurs board then? I still don't believe it until it is official.

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    I'm not going to believe it til it happens. If this does happen all i can say is, Its about damn time.

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    I'm not going to believe it till it happens.
    ...and i don't think people should. it will surprise me if it goes through.

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    If it was not Bruno who posted it, I would not believe it at all...

    Thanks but I just share what someone else said.
    The question isn't about trusting me, it's about trusting this guy.

    FYI, This board consider him as legit and a moderator, who has checked his IP, has said that he works for Spurs.

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    WTF?

    No! Please don't tell me that. I don't want that guy as a Spur. That would be a bad, panic signing. He will screw our chemistry, it's Dennis Rodman all over again, mark my words.
    I think the situation is different. You have to see that the Spurs would not give up a lot. If the trade would really happen like that the Spurs would still have the same core. Elson is not even playing a lot, so it is Barry for Artest... If he does not work you would still have the same rotation like the Spurs have right now.

    That said, I doubt it would be really just Barry, Elson and picks. If they include Splitter the Kings might bite but I hope this is not the case...

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    It seems that Artest for Barry + Elson + picks will happen.
    I think the Spurs will miss having Barry as "offense grease"... It is clearly visible now that he's injured... I understand that Pop used to insert him into the game whenever the offense was stagnating - who will do that now?

    I'm no stat guru, but it is interesting to note that he's the +/- leader of the Spurs outside of the big 3 (all the others are negative!)... Lending more credence to hist role as "offensive grease" is that his + stat is about the same as Tony - 2 points higher than the next Spur.

    Link: http://www.82games.com/0708/0708SAS.HTM

    The 10-day contract players are excluded for obvious reasons.

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    Unit					Min	Off	Def	+/-	W	L	Win%
    
    Parker-Ginobili-Bowen-Bonner-Duncan 	49	121	76	+45 	8 	2	80.0
    
    Parker-Ginobili-Barry-Finley-Duncan	35	86	67	+19	5	3	62.5
    LOL at Parker-Ginobili-Bowen-Bonner-Duncan being the best line up!! +45!!! I have no idea whether the stats are skewed but may be this is why Bonner was used in the last minute line ups where he missed the shots that could've clinched the game!
    Last edited by Quasar; 02-20-2008 at 06:48 AM.

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    Thanks but I just share what someone else said.
    The question isn't about trusting me, it's about trusting this guy.

    FYI, This board consider him as legit and a moderator, who has checked his IP, has said that he works for Spurs.
    I know. But if you post something like that it is not completely made up. I still wonder why the guy has not post it on the Spurs board at realgm. Well see what happens...

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