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    You down wit' O.C.D.? Borosai's Avatar
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    I go to sleep for a few hours and this happens. Overall, I'm happy with the trade (but I didn't know a first-rounder would even be needed).

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    And I'm not sold at all about Thomas helping that much Spurs this year.

    Thomas has been a monster to grab defensive rebounds this year but it's just useless give that Spurs are the best defensive rebounding team of the league.

    On the offensive end, he will be fine but nothing jaw dropping.

    On the defensive end, I'm not sold. Thomas is slow and short. Is he able to defend well players like Gasol, Stoudamire or Garnett ? I'm not sure of that.

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    The addition of Kurt Thomas helping rebounding is something I hadn't considered. That is pretty damn huge. The biggest problem these Spurs have had in the post season isn't defending certain players or scoring, its been rebounding. If this helps fix that issue then you get much more leeway in every other department.

    Worse offense? Not as big of a deal if you hit the glass harder.
    Worse defense? Not as big of a deal if you prevent fewer offensive possesions with good defensive rebounding.
    Slower? You get more transition out of rebounds and good outlets.

    I'm coming around but I really really loved Brent.


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    Another thing, the BBQ IQ of the team with the switchout of Thomas for Elson just soared.

    Thomas is a very good pick and roll player, a very very good defensive player, and an excellent rebounder.

    The plusses outweigh the minuses in this trade by far and away.

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    Uhh, the year after next is 2010.

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    No. "Stackoused" has a better flow and serves as a reminder to mavfans about the debacle that was the Kidd trade.
    "Stackhoused" does have a good flow. You're trying to stack the deck to build up your team (your house).

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    The addition of Kurt Thomas helping rebounding is something I hadn't considered. That is pretty damn huge. The biggest problem these Spurs have had in the post season isn't defending certain players or scoring, its been rebounding. If this helps fix that issue then you get much more leeway in every other department.

    Worse offense? Not as big of a deal if you hit the glass harder.
    Worse defense? Not as big of a deal if you prevent fewer offensive possesions with good defensive rebounding.
    Slower? You get more transition out of rebounds and good outlets.

    I'm coming around but I really really loved Brent.


    Kurt Thomas at worst is a fantastic pick and roll option with Parker and that free throw line jump shot.

    The offense, defense, rebounding on the team improve with this trade.

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    Yes!!!!!

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    On the defensive end, I'm not sold. Thomas is slow and short. Is he able to defend well players like Gasol, Stoudamire or Garnett ? I'm not sure of that.
    He would guard Bynum, Shaq, and Perkins.

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    Well I am happy with the deal except for the pick. It sort of has me going both ways. Dunno what I think yet.

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    Also, the post offense virtually disappears when td is out of the lineup. I think this is actually where KT will help the most.

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    I also wanted to add and say thanks to Brent Barry.

    He is such a good team player, hard worker, and wonderful teammate.

    He helped us win championships with his amazing shooting and hustle.

    Thanks for everything Brent! A classic guy!

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    He would guard Bynum, Shaq, and Perkins.
    Great, let's put Duncan on the opposite best offensive bigman : Gasol, Stoudamire or Garnett.

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    I think he's gonna be a great fit

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    I'm not worried about 2010. I'm worried about next year and the year after.
    Yes, it's obvious we need some wings to run with Parker, Manu, and Udoka (let's face it, he looks like he's going to grow into the role of the perfect role player for us and Bowen's heir apparent).

    The other overlooked fact is we now have Bird Rights for Thomas and can re-sign the guy in the off-season, and still have the full MLE to throw at the perimeter player of our choice (or offer a guy like Diop).

    Parker
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    Thomas
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    Splitter
    Finley?
    MLE guard signing

    fill out the roster with vets looking for a ring, rinse, repeat (threepeat)

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    Great, let's put Duncan on the opposite best offensive bigman : Gasol, Stoudamire or Garnett.
    That's what Finley is for.

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    Great, let's put Duncan on the opposite best offensive bigman : Gasol, Stoudamire or Garnett.

    Sounds good to me.

    Duncan can shut down gasol totally hes done it before.

    He can guard Garnett VERY VERY well.

    Stoudamire? He would outsmart him so bad its not even funny.

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    I guess they wanted that first rounder instead of Bonner....

    (I actually don't know if the cap would have fit out as nicely) but it's just a guess.

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    I forgot about Thomas' 10-15 ft. jumper - it looked pretty consistent last year.

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    This must mean one thing -- Barry is bad off, perhaps even done.

    Although one problem may be solved, another presents itself -- who will hit the big 3's off the bench in the postseason?

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    WAIT We got crazy eyes?!?!

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    The other overlooked fact is we now have Bird Rights for Thomas and can re-sign the guy in the off-season, and still have the full MLE to throw at the perimeter player of our choice (or offer a guy like Diop).
    Jamario Moon please.

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    This must mean one thing -- Barry is bad off, perhaps even done.

    Although one problem may be solved, another presents itself -- who will hit the big 3's off the bench in the postseason?
    KT can hit Jumpers. Timmay can hit clutch 3-pointers.
    Bowen can still hit from the corner.
    Horry still gets a paycheck from the Spurs.

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    Sounds good to me.

    Duncan can shut down gasol totally hes done it before.

    He can guard Garnett VERY VERY well.

    Stoudamire? He would outsmart him so bad its not even funny.
    So against Celtics you put Thomas on Perkins and Duncan on Garnett ?

    In this case, please explain me what Thomas will bring to Spurs.

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    If Brent is done for the season, the physical will show that, but perhaps SEA doesn't care

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