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I can't even imagine what these poor people are going though. It is unforgivable and shocking that its like this. It hurts.
Reunion Arena filling up now.
Hey J-6 do you have anymore links to some scanners online like National Guard and what not.
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I can't even imagine what these poor people are going though. It is unforgivable and shocking that its like this. It hurts.
I do not recall such a post. I don't even know if I knew you were agnostic.
But perhaps I did post that. Who knows. You've been around these internets for a long, long time.
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I think JohnnyBlaze posted a whole list of them this morning.
Man, MoveOn.org? Talk about a shady website to be filling out a form on...
Is the moveon.org site the only one that is taking requests for people who are willing to house refugees? Is that a legit site?
We would be willing to take in kids who lost their parents. It may be selfish but I don't think that I could handle taking in adults. I'm sure there's a lot of kids that are orphaned or at least separated from missing parents.
Well, thoughts of my previous bouts with agnosticism are neither here nor there, BUT, I want to go out on a limb and accuse you of NOT opposing wishy-washy souls, within this thread.
Hey, look at the time! It's late, no time to argue.
Be safe.
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Here's another site...
http://www.katrinahome.com/
They found Fat's Domino, he and family where airlifted.
MoveOn.org is a VERY legit site. You guys may not agree with their usual politics (although they do a lot of good work that is non partisan) but they are very legit and I have no problem in vouching for them not using your info in a wrong way.
They get a bad rap, but they are good people.
There are reports that some precients may be down to half strength because of desertion. I don't care how you spin it, its ed. If you're a cop, you're needed now and you should'nt be running like a little .
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There are also some "Meetup" groups being formed for different cities for people to offer rooms. Doesn't look like there is a SA one yet.
http://hurricane.meetup.com/groups/
Honestly, I'd probably go with MoveOn.org too, if I was looking for something web-based.
But I'm sure many churches in the area will be organizing groups.
I agree with all you said.I think I am going to agree with T Park. How long has it been known what would happen if NO got hit with a major hurricane? Years. How long has it been known that a major hurricane was on it's way to NO? At least a week, IIRC.
Things there are seemingly running in slooooooooow motion. People are starving. People are still trapped in attics and on top of roofs. There is little order from what we see. It's a mess.
To me it looks like there is a lack of leadership. I realize it is a daunting task, but damn. The hurricane hit on Sunday and here we are going into Friday and people are still waiting to get rescued and waiting to eat for the first time.
I listened to WWL tonight here outside Houston the radio. They had the mayor on and he was cussing up one side and down another.
The most telling thing was he said that a lot of the military folks were standing around in a daze. He said he needed to thank Pres. Bush because he told the pres. they needed troops and needed leadership and within hours some general showed up on a shopper.
The mayor said something like "the minute he got off the helicopter he started cussing people out (the general), and then people were all of a sudden hauling ass and getting things done. That's been a big change since he got here."
The mayor was pretty pissed though, he said FEMA was sucking. He even said something like "FEMA keeps saying help is on the way. I'm tired of it, and pardon my cajun French but they need to get us some G*d damn troops in here and buses and food and water right now."
Pretty wild, and it was live on the air.
Tragedy aside, I think FEMA's in for a major shake up when this is all said and done. The only explanation I can come up with for why they are so clueless is they weren't expecting this many people to live through it.
But it scares the out of me to think these idiots are in charge of disaster relief in the wake of any tragedy in the country. I shudder to think what happens the day AQ sets off a nuke or dirty bomb somewhere.
The local authorities, the federal authorities, FEMA, the Red Cross ... pretty much everyone has sucked. The response has been pitiful.
The best work was done by regular citizens who just got into boats and started rescuing people.
I would just stay away from moveon.org .. I mean not for political reasons. If you want to house someone contact the local shelters or the red cross.
Manny, I'm gonna disagree with you here. The very people you are sworn to protect and serve are trying to kill you, and you stayed behind through this kind of cluster when you could be safe, dry, and comfortable, you have every right to turn in your badge and get out before you're waiting in line at the Convention Center waiting for a promised bus for days on end.
How many people were actually shot for looting? It's like the town knows the police are hamstrung and is waving it in the officers faces.
If it's all about survival for anyone in NO right now, the cops are no exception. It's not like they've been given the proper tools to do their jobs to the best of their ability. They have every right to get their asses out of that cesspool before some group of people decides that cops are their targets of oppression.
I've never really thought of myself as a coward, but I'd hightail it at this stage of the game. Let the National Guard and the Army, the folks with the big guns, run things from here.
I think you are right, we'll go directly to the source for information. The sites that have the refugees sign up and then the housers sign up and then they match them is weird to me. Do the refugees have internet access to sign up?
I don't know, it seems like a weird system. Anyway, like I said, I wouldn't mind taking care of some kids. We'll enquire through our church and the Red Cross.
Another thing to consider ... imagine what type of hard ass decides to be a cop in New Orleans. You have to be one brave, brave, brave mofo to work some of those wards. NO is probably the most dangerous city in America to be a cop in.
If these cops are turning their back on the situation, then I'll trust that it's bad. These cops are the hard asses of all hard asses you are dealing with.
The refugees are being given internet access at places like the Astrodome in order to atempt to find out information on family members, etc etc.
Someone asked about the levees, looks like they've about got the 17th street one closed off from the lake.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168235,00.html
So the same plan that was to be put into place Monday night ended up working?
WTF did they wait so long?
This is so pathetic it's laughable.
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BTW, to back up LJ...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8999837/
(Story about murders in New Orleans).
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