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The reality is, if he’s on their #1 option, he should never switch. It’s one of the reasons we run drop big coverage.
Agree the IQ is still lacking for rotations, switches etc. but purely sticking to his man he does that well.
The reality is, if he’s on their #1 option, he should never switch. It’s one of the reasons we run drop big coverage.
I’ve been reliably informed that his improved % and better looking shot doesn’t matter because of the 1.4 attempts.
Right. Because mathematically he isn't even making a 3 a game, so who cares about how his shot looks? And this is on wide open 3's. Has anyone ever contested a Jeremy Sochan 3 in his entire career
He has definitely worked on his shot and it has improved though obviously still has a ways to go. But to me, he's never going to be this great shooter, so expecting him to become that is not the point. To me, a better way to look at it is can he at least be average as a shooter, and then find other ways to contribute. Different approach here, is that his most important swing skill moving forward might actually be his ball handling, because if he's never going to be a great shooter, and if we would hope that we could start him in that small forward position as an experiment, and pair him with a great three-point shooting power forward like Reid, then if he could at least attack people with his dribble, then we may be cooking with something, especially forming a defensive iden y with he, Wemby, and Castle all starting together.
yeah, sometimes a player is rare because guys like that just dont exist. wemby, curry, etc.
sometimes guys are rare for a reason, the league doesnt find use for that type of player.
I'd rather start Naz Reid at 4 and Sochan at 3 than our current lineup. Though this may be just another way to move on from Devin.
He isn't skilled enough to attack defenders off the dribble. He is what he is. It's his third year and he isn't going to suddenly be a transformed different player exhibiting skills he never showed before.
Good pointRight. Because mathematically he isn't even making a 3 a game, so who cares about how his shot looks? And this is on wide open 3's. Has anyone ever contested a Jeremy Sochan 3 in his entire career
His so called improvement in shooting has to be taken into context.
Sochan doesn’t have to be a strong shooter, he just has to have the ability to shoot quickly when wide open and make them at an average rate. The point isn’t for him to make the three, the point is so that the defence can’t collapse off of him totally which is why shooting it quickly is key. If he takes forever to wind up and shoot, even if he can shoot at a decent rate, it gives the defense time to rotate and close out after doubling far off him, but if he can launch it quickly and hit them at a respectable rate, then the defense would at least have to be within the vicinity of him which opens up the lane for everybody else.
Of course, ideally, PATFO can design a system where players can actually cut to the basket for easy layups and sochan would be ideal for that role.
He may improve enough. If he's guarded by small forwards he may be able to back them in a few times a game. That's all I'm talking about. Find some role on offense in limited moments if paired with a strong shooting 4. Not talking about showcasing him.
SpursTalk has a lot of sniffers, homers and whatnot... but at least we don't have anyone who is THIS hard of a Sochan Stan: https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/co...bit_on_doncic/
Well doncic is playing worse than he did last year and sochan is playing better, so technically sochan is closing the gap. Note the guy didn’t say sochan closed the gap, just closing. It’s like I’m closing the wealth gap with Elon musk because he lost a few hundred billion dollars in the last few months.
The critical question is
Is Jeremy better suited to the bench or a starting position?
What will be his role next season?
There is no critical question anymore when it comes to Sochan. He is a bench player. Offer him a bench player contract. Maybe he outperforms it but it’s on him to improve.
Sochan has made 26 more three pointers than I have this season. On wide ing open attempts. He isn’t a starter. And his role is to get play 25 minutes of hard defense, rebounding, and hustle. That’s it.
that depends on the spurs iden y for the future. Normal spurs keep sochan a starter for 15 years, future spurs may perhaps be your run of the mill all offence type of team, in which case it's debatable.
Imagine having the DPOY for the next 10 years and saying we will be a run of the mill all offense team. In no way does Sochan ever start on any Spurs team that wants to win. I have to go back to maybe 2011 with Sochan over Blair. But Sochan doesn’t start on any Robinson team that had TC or Rodman. He doesn’t start in the twin towers era. He doesn’t start in the 04-2010 era when we won 2 les. And he doesn’t start in 2012-2018.
The you say without actually thinking about what you say is hilarious. Instead of making blanket statements, go back and actually tell me the time when we were contenders that Sochan would start. I went back 35 years and couldn’t do it. But enlighten me to how a bench player like Sochan is now all of a sudden considered in any way shape or form the iden y of the whole ing franchise.
Probably one of the biggest sochan fans here but sochan is probably best served as a defensive wing stopper type who cuts to the basket for easy buckets. He can’t create any type of offence, or be a reliable spot up shooter. He can be a useful offensive player crashing the boards for offensive put backs or outlets on defensive rebounds. He can run the floor decently well and is a very good cutter. If Fox turns into a lights out shooter and castle into an above average shooter, then you add on a shooting 4, sochan may be a fit in the starting lineup.
If he is coming off the bench his best strength is actually diminished, because any team would start their best perimeter offensive player, so who would sochan Huard coming off the bench?
i never claimed he'd play in those teams, of course he wouldn't.. he would be a starter on THIS spurs, with the "spurs way" of that era..
Probably one of the biggest sochan fans here but sochan is probably best served as a defensive wing stopper type who cuts to the basket for easy buckets. He can’t create any type of offence, or be a reliable spot up shooter. He can be a useful offensive player crashing the boards for offensive put backs or outlets on defensive rebounds. He can run the floor decently well and is a very good cutter. If Fox turns into a lights out shooter and castle into an above average shooter, then you add on a shooting 4, sochan may be a fit in the starting lineup.
If he is coming off the bench his best strength is actually diminished, because any team would start their best perimeter offensive player, so who would sochan guard coming off the bench?
As for the question to which spurs team can start on in the last 35 years, I can see him starting in place of (not over) Rasho or nazr, he may even be able to start on the 01 or 02 team as shooting wasn’t as important back then. Could be a downgraded version of Bruce Bowen to an extent, depending on how much he can get away with and hed better start nailing those corner threes. Would be a stretch but it’s doable.
And you've been informed right, a higher shooting % on much lower volume because of cherry picking, doesn't mean , tbh.
Anyways, I came here to actually praise Sochan, by posting this:
Who is better Sochan or Malik Rose?
As bench players? Sochan is more overall skilled but I like Malik’s toughness and mentality. Btw if you’re trying to suggest that Malik was our regular starter then no he wasn’t. We had Robinson and then Rasho
Would you rather have Jeremy shooting 20% on 1.4 or 34% with a nice backspin?
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