Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[djohn2oo8]

did this mother er really get caught up using Whatsapp?

[Brazil]

did this mother er really get caught up using Whatsapp?

yes

and they are asking jail as he waits for his trial

[Reck]

What else can he say? Can't defend witness tampering.

Trust me, It's Chris.

If he can semen shield for a pedophile, rooting for a criminal like Manafort is like a badge of honor for him.

[Reck]

[RandomGuy]

If Dip ticus isn't soiling his pants right now, he should be. Of the millions of do ents seized from Michael Cohen, a FRACTION of them were deemed privileged. If they were relying on attorney/client privilege, the special master just gave them the finger.

The significance of this cannot be overstated. Almost ALL of the communications between Cohen and Trump were found to be not privileged. What this means is the special master who is a retired federal judge herself, reviewed this stuff and found a fraction as in less than 1% of the material to be privileged. What this means is that Michael Cohen was not functioning as an attorney in her legal opinion.

The Prosecutors are getting 99% of everything Cohen had. To be even more clear, what Sekalow and Giuliani are doing now is conceding that the Traitor did obstruct justice but it's not illegal for him to do so because, "he would be obstructing himself as the chief law enforcement officer."
Nixon tried that and it didn't work out so well either. Nixon too thought he could pardon himself, then he found out he couldn't. He resigned the next day.

When Mueller nailed John Gotti, he first built the underlying crime. Then he started with his underlings and flipping them. Then he got the Lieutenants and indicted them. Then he got a captain, Sammy the Bull. Then he got the Don.

He has established the underlying crime: Conspiracy against the United States. He has indicted 13 Russian for conspiring to undermine our election by defrauding the United States. He has indicted Rick Gates, Van Der Zwaan, Mike Flynn, Nader, Papadopoulus, Manafort's son-in-law and Manafort. 5 of them have pleaded guilty already. Coffee boys and Lieutenants but not Manafort. He's a captain.

Robert Mueller today filed a motion to revoke Manafort's bond because he has him on wire taps trying to tamper with a witness. This is the 2nd time Manafort has violated his conditional release. He *will* be taken into custody and his bond will be revoked. In his filing, they have him trying to suborn perjury.

Manafort has never sat in jail nor slept on a concrete slab for any length of time. He also has not eaten the dog vomit they call food in it. When the reality hits him that he is now facing life in prison, he will RUN to Mueller. This will happen very fast. Manafort will not get back out of jail without making a deal with Mueller unless Trump pardons him. I pray he makes such a mistake because that will be the end of the traitor.

Cohen too is a Captain in this case and he is going to sing like a canary. When he is indicted, he is going to have trouble making bond. His two Captains are staring at two prosecutorial assassins that have the ability to put them in prison for life. If he pardons them, it will be his end. It doesn't matter if he does because they then lose their 5th amendment rights and that means when Mueller calls them before the grand jury, they must testify and if they lie or conceal any crime, they can be recharged for those crimes.

As my old man would say, 'in the law bidness, we call that check and mate.' Trump isn't talking about being above the law and pardoning everyone for no reason. He's sweating and he should be because this looks exactly like how Mueller built his RICO case against Gotti. This also looks exactly like Nixon just before the Saturday Night Massacre.

Politics hasn't been this interesting since Napoleon invaded Moscow and don't forget what the Russians did to him!

I think the guy has it about right. Mueller is ratcheting up the pressure on Manafort, who is about to get his cushy house arrest ganked. I don't see Manafort lasting to long in an actual prison.

[RandomGuy]

Holy ....

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...is-cool/562034

There is another suggestive fact that Mueller posits in passing. Manafort’s witness-tampering scheme featured a co-conspirator. Mueller doesn’t name the accomplice, but his iden y is not hard to discern from Mueller’s description. Manafort tried to contact his Hapsburg Group collaborators through his old Russo-Ukrainian aide, Konstantin Kilimnik.

By any rational standard, Manafort should have long ago jettisoned his relationship with Kilimnik. On two separate occasions, Mueller has described Kilimnik as having “ties to Russian intelligence.” Put differently, in the middle of a scandal featuring collusion with the Russian state, Manafort seems to have relied on an asset of Russian intelligence to abet a plot to tamper with a witness. That’s hardly the work of a strategic genius.

AND

There was no public trace of Manafort’s work with the Hapsburg Group—how he funneled millions of euros to it, how he enlisted it to lobby without filing the required disclosure—at least not until Mueller first described it, in his February 23 indictment of Manafort. In the days following the indictment, Mueller says, Manafort relentlessly reached out to two members of a public-relations firm that helped him coordinate the Hapsburg Group—by phone, by email, by Telegraph, by WhatsApp. These alleged efforts were the basis for Mueller’s accusation that Manafort was tampering with a witness, attempting to coach testimony, which would have violated the terms of his bail.

[RandomGuy]

did this mother er really get caught up using Whatsapp?

It appears so.

That and... Telegraph.... holy .

[RandomGuy]

I think it's time to let this one go, son.

Plead guilty but yeah let's go with the FBI made him do it

the "newly leaked" evidence in this case is the memo written by Trump's lawyers. Who wrote the memo to claim their client didn't know that Flynn lied. Color me skeptical.

[RandomGuy]

Wow, that last part! Person D1 and Person D2 have already been talking to the Mueller team, and Person D1 is like, “Yeah, they were trying to SUBORN PERJURY at me,” and Manafort was stupid enough to get caught doing this. And while Manafort was up Person D1’s ass, Kilimnik (THE RUSSIAN SPY) was having the same WhatsApp chats with Person D2, you know, to make sure everybody is telling the same lies, specifically that these Hapsburg dudes need to say they only worked in Europe, and not the US. (LIE!)

Mueller notes later in the filing that the “content and context” of Kilimnik’s communications “indicate that [Kilimnik] was reaching out to Person D2 at Manafort’s request.” Which kinda sounds like colluding with a Russian spy to us, but what do we know? By the way, this isn’t the first time Manafort and Kilimnik have conspired together and gotten caught while Manafort has been under indictment.

So basically, those are the crimes. Manafort was texting half his buddies and Kilimnik was texting the other half of Manafort’s buddies, all with the same message of “HEY, SAY SOME LIES.”

Read more at https://wonkette.com/634814/is-paul-...0BmM3El0VCa.99

[Winehole23]

Brutal.

Mueller has known about this for some time.

Looks like he waited until Manafort pledged what might be his his last liquid assets to make bail, then dropped the hammer.

[djohn2oo8]

10 days to make a plea deal or spend the rest of your days in prison.

[djohn2oo8]

[DarrinS]

I think the guy has it about right. Mueller is ratcheting up the pressure on Manafort, who is about to get his cushy house arrest ganked. I don't see Manafort lasting to long in an actual prison.

What kind of prison do you think they put guys like Manafort in?

[djohn2oo8]

What kind of prison do you think they put guys like Manafort in?

You think prison is easy? Federal prisons are not as bad as State Prisons. However, that does not make one easier than the other. And Manafort faces the rest of his life in there.

[spurraider21]

i'm surprised that we still haven't gotten a ruling from Judge Ellis in Manafort's case in Virginia.

though at this point with these witness tampering allegations in his DC case, not even sure how much it matters

[clambake]

i'm surprised that we still haven't gotten a ruling from Judge Ellis in Manafort's case in Virginia.

though at this point with these witness tampering allegations in his DC case, not even sure how much it matters

change "tampering" with "fighting back". the rules have changed.

[RandomGuy]

Brutal.

Mueller has known about this for some time.

Looks like he waited until Manafort pledged what might be his his last liquid assets to make bail, then dropped the hammer.

That IS some 3D chess , of the type that the 4chan brigade claims (ROFL) that Trump is doing. Don't see why you have to have a secret "he's really winning" conspiracy theory when you guy is, in reality, winning, but hey, let's not let logic get in the way.

[RandomGuy]

What kind of prison do you think they put guys like Manafort in?

That is up to the prosecutors. I have my theory.

[RandomGuy]

‘Our recollection keeps changing’

[RandomGuy]

In case you missed it, TSA, most of Cohen's was found not to fall into attorney client privilege...



None Of Michael Cohen’s Actually Privileged, Even Though He’s DEFINITELY A REAL LAWYER

Todd Harrison, a lawyer for Cohen, told the court last week that his firm had received about 3.7 million files, with about 1.3 million already turned over to Jones for her review.

Read more at https://wonkette.com/634831/none-of-...9Gl2CaEypv4.99

[boutons_deux]

Now that Donald Trump has made it clear he is beyond the rule of law and answerable to no one,

he’s not hiding the fact that he would have stopped the Russian investigation immediately,

had not there been a slight complication.

Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump

The Russian Witch Hunt Hoax continues,

all because Jeff Sessions didn’t tell me he was going to recuse himself...

I would have quickly picked someone else.

So much time and money wasted,

so many lives ruined...

and Sessions knew better than most that there was No Collusion!

6:31 AM - Jun 5, 2018

Had Sessions not recused himself,

Trump would have simply told Sessions to kill any investigation.

This open admission is not just a message that

Trump no longer feels any need to disguise his obstruction of the investigation—

after all, his attorneys have declared that he can’t be charged with obstruction, or anything else—

but a message to any other official thinking they should step away from an issue in which they have a personal interest.



https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre

[boutons_deux]

Manafort violates bail but the reasons he did it are now more interesting

More interesting is Trump bleating about Manafort coincident to his getting caught attempting witness tampering.
The below thread indicates the depth of Manafort’s involvement in the Ukraine incursion by Russia and the range of influence including illegal lobbying. It demonstrates how much Mueller already has in evidence.

It’s important to remember that a Trump pardon for Manafort isn’t going to cover some state-level activities that will be prosecuted where the money was transferred.

Manafort could flip and give Trump up because of Manafort being implicated with a bunch of current and former European politicians during the Russian ‘invasion’ of Ukraine/Crimea.

And then there’s

the role of among other US Congress members, Dana Rohrabacher and possibly Chuck Grassley in this...

So, if you're right about this being the article Manafort and Gates arranged,

the @nytimes covered Manafort / Yanukovych orchestrated murders of protesters

which were carried out to provide cover for Putin as he invaded and stole Crimea from Ukraine.

The short version of this set of threads is that we can see in the Mueller request to void Manafort’s bail, that

there’s some compelling evidence of Manafort activities that is so incriminating, that Manafort was willing to risk pre-trial imprisonment.

It’s

also important enough to get Trump to signal however obliquely that he might pardon some

#TrumpRussia criminals, including himself.

< ... LOTS more Holy ! stuff follows in this article >

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre

[boutons_deux]

Vladimir Putin says that he and Trump 'regularly talk over the phone'

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...over-the-phone

[Chris]

[clambake]

2 thumbs up, huh?