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    Does it matter?

    We have a huge percentage of people who stupid. Just look at who we put in as our elected officials. The climate sciences are no different. The news will be as slanted as any, because sensationalism is what sells.

    What would the story be and sales, if the headlines read that global warming would bring prosperity?
    Yes it does matter. People like Thread read the bull headlines, think "oh the scientists are just totally faking this "... dont bother to do any follow up research, or fact check and vote accordingly

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    Yes it does matter. People like Thread read the bull headlines, think "oh the scientists are just totally faking this "... dont bother to do any follow up research, or fact check and vote accordingly
    I'm not following up this horse , 21, and I ain't fact checkin' either. I do not believe any of it for an instant.

    It is a fresh revenue stream to separate Americans from their money.

    & it is nothing more.

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    I'm not following up this horse , 21, and I ain't fact checkin' either. I do not believe any of it for an instant.

    It is a fresh revenue stream to separate Americans from their money.

    & it is nothing more.
    Last time we went down this path I called you a head. Don't be obtuse, cub.

    Your approval of climate change is not a requisite. Lot's of folks were upset when told the earth revolved around the sun, but the scientists dragged them, kicking and screaming.

    If you don't like the policies and the taxes, so be it, that's your right. But let the scientists do their thing. They'll figure it out... and humanity progresses with science and technology, not with kings and queens.

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    Last time we went down this path I called you a head. Don't be obtuse, cub.

    Your approval of climate change is not a requisite. Lot's of folks were upset when told the earth revolved around the sun, but the scientists dragged them, kicking and screaming.

    If you don't like the policies and the taxes, so be it, that's your right. But let the scientists do their thing. They'll figure it out... and humanity progresses with science and technology, not with kings and queens.
    Fine, let the scientists do their thing, but, I ain't ever buying this hoax, 21. If you need to call me vile names then go ahead, I won't hold it against you like I did last time.

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    What climate change?

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    What climate change?

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    What climate change?
    It's winter and it used to be fall.

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    Fine, let the scientists do their thing, but, I ain't ever buying this hoax, 21. If you need to call me vile names then go ahead, I won't hold it against you like I did last time.
    Of course you are not. You can't.
    It does not fit. Some people can't handle science. It's ok. Just make something up. Then you will be the first to perish when you realize a good bleeding out is not going to cure your pneumonia. It's all good,

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    It's winter and it used to be fall.
    Why? Why does fall lead into winter?

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    Of course you are not. You can't.
    It does not fit. Some people can't handle science. It's ok. Just make something up. Then you will be the first to perish when you realize a good bleeding out is not going to cure your pneumonia. It's all good,
    Just the next asshole in the line trying to make a living. Like Media, and pgardn, and Ford, and doctors and McDonalds and science(tists)...there is nary difference in the lot. They are each trying to make a ing living and each will stoop as far as one will permit.

    (Science) ain't special, they're not a sacred cow that must be believed, or, the nonbeliever is cast down. Screw off, science, this cat ain't buyin' what you're selling. NO--- ING---WAY.

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    [[[After the collapse of the Lakers, Cub had his back broken, ass ed and he was, naturally, humbled.]]]

    But I still ain't buyin' this Climate Change BULL !!!

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    But you don't know anything about it other than you don't like it.

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    But you don't know anything about it other than you don't like it.
    If it looks like a pile of and smells like a pile of . It's a pile of .

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    If it looks like a pile of and smells like a pile of . It's a pile of .
    You just don't like it, cub. That's fine.

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    I highly doubt anyone here has looked at the data from a knowledgeable, scientific perspective enough to confirm the veracity of the claim. Some are taking the appeal to authority approach where they simply trust scientists have no agenda other than pure science and others are taking the approach that everyone is a liar until proven otherwise. At the end of the day you're right where you started, no ing idea.

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    You just don't like it, cub. That's fine.
    And like all of these pie-in-the-sky 5 alarm fires 20 years from now they'll quietly self debunk it, move about 50 miles from the ruins and start a fresh gd 5 alarm fire.

    It never ends.

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    I highly doubt anyone here has looked at the data from a knowledgeable, scientific perspective enough to confirm the veracity of the claim. Some are taking the appeal to authority approach where they simply trust scientists have no agenda other than pure science and others are taking the approach that everyone is a liar until proven otherwise. At the end of the day you're right where you started, no ing idea.
    Exactly. They're just as needy and dishonest as the next American.

    - "Separate the saints from the sinners and you're lucky to end up with Abraham Lincoln."

    - "Hud" - "Hud"

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    I highly doubt anyone here has looked at the data from a knowledgeable, scientific perspective enough to confirm the veracity of the claim. Some are taking the appeal to authority approach where they simply trust scientists have no agenda other than pure science and others are taking the approach that everyone is a liar until proven otherwise. At the end of the day you're right where you started, no ing idea.
    If all the scientists in the world are "in" on a global, half-century long conspiracy, and every piece of their data is manufactured and manipulated, then sure, I've been blind. I don't have the means to collect global temperature averages, and I'm not going to go analyze and rediscover the radiation absorption properties of CO2 molecules, collect my own historic ice core samples, and all on my own become an expert on glaciology, atmospheric physics, geology, paleoclimatology, and oceanography.

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    Fine, let the scientists do their thing.

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    If all the scientists in the world are "in" on a global, half-century long conspiracy, and every piece of their data is manufactured and manipulated, then sure, I've been blind. I don't have the means to collect global temperature averages, and I'm not going to go analyze and rediscover the radiation absorption properties of CO2 molecules, collect my own historic ice core samples, and all on my own become an expert on glaciology, atmospheric physics, geology, paleoclimatology, and oceanography.
    That's a lot of wording to say "yep, I am using appeal to authority".

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    That's a lot of wording to say "yep, I am using appeal to authority".
    Sure. But it's not the authority of one individual... as in "I believe x is true because person a says so."

    This is why there is a scientific process, including replication. Science is a collective body on knowledge, not some guy calling the shots and making proclamations.

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    Sure. But it's not the authority of one individual... as in "I believe x is true because person a says so."

    This is why there is a scientific process, including replication. Science is a collective body on knowledge, not some guy calling the shots and making proclamations.
    There's nothing wrong with believing something because authority deems it so, and there's nothing wrong with not believing it because you don't trust the authority, but both sides really are left to just their own epistemological nuances.

    The scientific process does exist, but you're taking the word of individuals that it was carried out properly. You didn't do it yourself. Otherwise it would be a huge issue that data was compromised by using ship data instead of buoy data. Since human elements are involved and many scientists build on foundations set by others, folks like us rarely really question the foundation of how the data was gathered. You see it all the time here with various stats with little regard to how they were collected, why and by whom.

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    There's nothing wrong with believing something because authority deems it so, and there's nothing wrong with not believing it because you don't trust the authority, but both sides really are left to just their own epistemological nuances.

    The scientific process does exist, but you're taking the word of individuals that it was carried out properly. You didn't do it yourself. Otherwise it would be a huge issue that data was compromised by using ship data instead of buoy data. Since human elements are involved and many scientists build on foundations set by others, folks like us rarely really question the foundation of how the data was gathered. You see it all the time here with various stats with little regard to how they were collected, why and by whom.
    which is what makes the process so important. if the data was fabricated, the author of that paper would be exposed as soon as various groups attempting to replicate the findings aren't able to.

    it admittedly falls apart if there has been a global, 60+ year conspiracy

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    which is what makes the process so important. if the data was fabricated, the author of that paper would be exposed as soon as various groups attempting to replicate the findings aren't able to.

    it admittedly falls apart if there has been a global, 60+ year conspiracy
    Damn, I'll be six feet under and surrounded by wood in the balance of 45 years, 21.

    You lucky thing, you.

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    which is what makes the process so important. if the data was fabricated, the author of that paper would be exposed as soon as various groups attempting to replicate the findings aren't able to.

    it admittedly falls apart if there has been a global, 60+ year conspiracy
    Well sure, but not before a bunch of non-scientists began a religion around it while a bunch of naysayers with folded arms simply turned a deaf ear.

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