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    The gasol deal was seen as such a bad deal by the rest of the league, but if you look at trades this last offseason the paramters are very much the same. The lakers were simply ahead of the curve, and got into the salary dump sweepstakes before other teams could.

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    The Lakers were the best team last year, but if it weren't for the Gasol deal...

    I know y'all hate hearing it over and over again, but everyone else hates having to deal with it.
    And if the Spurs didn't tank they wouldn't have Duncan or 4 championships.

    You just look like sour grapes everytime you bring it up.

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    The gasol deal was seen as such a bad deal by the rest of the league, but if you look at trades this last offseason the paramters are very much the same. The lakers were simply ahead of the curve, and got into the salary dump sweepstakes before other teams could.
    I guess you're the only one around here who defends Chris Wallace

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    I guess you're the only one around here who defends Chris Wallace
    While you have got another one in Indazone along with yourself to be double idiots on this board, congratulations.

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    And if the Spurs didn't tank they wouldn't have Duncan or 4 championships.

    You just look like sour grapes everytime you bring it up.
    Robinson broke his foot/missed the season. We didn't have to tank.

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    And if the Spurs didn't tank they wouldn't have Duncan or 4 championships.

    You just look like sour grapes everytime you bring it up.
    At least, the spurs made some sacrifice (losing a lot of ticket money)
    opposing the lakers got a free favour from the league

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    I never understood how breaking your foot and having a screw put in could be considered tanking. Not to mention that the Celtics had the best shot at Duncan, there was no guarantee the Spurs would get the pick.

    NBA: Robinson to miss 6 weeks with broken foot
    The Boston Globe
    December 25, 1996

    San Antonio Spurs star center David Robinson, who missed the first 18 games of the season with back pain, was placed on the injured list yesterday after suffering a broken left foot. Robinson is expected to miss approximately six weeks and was scheduled to undergo surgery Friday to insert a screw into his fifth metatarsal.

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    I never understood how breaking your foot and having a screw put in could be considered tanking. Not to mention that the Celtics had the best shot at Duncan, there was no guarantee the Spurs would get the pick.
    Thank You!

    What a refreshing POV in the constant regurgitation of "my team is better than your team" smack mentality that always dominates these discussions!

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    But wasn't there some real shady incidents right towards the end? Subs ution patterns, players used. I don't recall the particulars, but, I remember some people being really torqued off over it.

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    I put my answers in [[[]]]. Hope you can figure it out.

    This is hilarious. You're going to call KENDRICK PERKINS a blue chipper and not call Mo Williams one? LOL. I should probably just stop responding here, but out of boredom I will continue...

    [[[Yes. Perkins is a blue chipper. Mo Williams is a loser.]]]



    Right. So Ben Wallace & Pavlovic would be better. Especially considering all Cleveland needed last year was someone that had the respect of the referees to guard Howard.

    [[[No. Daddy, Wallace & Pavlovic aren't going to get Cleveland to a le.]]]


    It doesn't really matter, even if that were true. They've got LeBron James. That gives them the advantage in almost any series alone.


    Why? Perkins can guard Howard. Pierce and Allen can negate Carter and Lewis. Who's matching up with KG? Gortat? LOL. The Celtics have NO ONE to guard LeBron AT ALL. Pierce is old as dirt, and there's no James Posey there anymore. Sorry.



    Two words: Chicago Bulls.

    [[[Please.]]]



    Maybe teams made up of pussies like the Lakers. That's seriously the only team I've ever seen fold against them in the playoffs due to physicality.



    Take off the purple and gold glasses. LeBron is by far the best player in the league and played out of his mind in the playoffs.

    [[[He stepped out the side door against Orlando.]]]


    Are you ready for this? Because this is going to destroy your 'attempt' at making some sort of ridiculous point about doubting the greatness of LeBron James.

    Having only 3 years of NBA experience LeBron James got to the NBA finals with the following starting lineup:

    C Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    PF Drew Gooden
    SF LeBron James
    SG Sasha Pavlovic
    PG Larry Hughes (yes, Larry Hughes starting at point guard in the NBA Finals)
    ^- Worst backcourt in NBA Finals history??
    [[[Getting to the NBA Finals is a means to an end. Nothing more. If one does not grant that particular end they're no better than the other 29 teams.]]]

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    @Culburn -- You must be a troll, because nothing you are saying holds any weight and half of it doesn't even make sense.
    You're just now figuring out this guy is just trolling you.

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    @Culburn -- You must be a troll, because nothing you are saying holds any weight and half of it doesn't even make sense.
    I can exist in both worlds (poster or troll). In answering your considered post of assessments I was being a poster. But, like most Spurs fandom you read a stat sheet and get all excited and off a tangent you go.

    Just because Williams fills a stat sheet and Perkins does not has nothing to do with their talent level.

    You're commanded by symbolism over substance. Ain't nothing gonna change that.

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    Any way you want to look at it, Mo Williams is a better player than Perkins. Stats, whatever.

    Perkins plays good post D and rebounds well. Great. Mo Williams is an all-star.
    You're wrong, but, it what it is. Knock yerself out. You'll learn.

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    Any way you want to look at it, Mo Williams is a better player than Perkins. Stats, whatever.

    Perkins plays good post D and rebounds well. Great. Mo Williams is an all-star due to injuries.
    Fixed

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    Probably like 20 big men in the East could get injured and Perkins still wouldn't be one.
    I never claimed Perkins was an all star. He is a good solid role player who can defend and finish at the rim. That is who he is and who he will always be.

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    According to sources close to the Lakers' organization, Pat Riley and Dwyane Wade from the Miami Heat formally met with Lamar Odom this afternoon to discuss their contract offer of 5 years, $34 million at the MLE. The result of their meeting was that Odom ultimately said he appreciated their offer but that he would have to decline. He reiterated his love for the city of Miami for giving him a home, and to Riley for giving him his first big contract (of which he is currently coming off of).

    However, he felt his best chance to win another NBA championship would be with the Lakers, and that he felt he owed it to the city of Los Angeles to come back for another le run. Odom plans on meeting with Lakers' owner Jerry Buss later this week to finalize contract details. More to come later.

    http://lakersguy.blogspot.com/

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    Well back on topic, it appears Lamar is leaving. It comes out he's leaning towards the Heat, then D Wade and Riles fly to LA to have a meeting with him this afternoon, then it comes out he'll announce his decision in the next day or so, then LO starts twittering like crazy for the first time in like three weeks. I'm connecting the dots and saying Lamar signed with the Heat this afternoon. Time for everyone to start writing off LA, can't wait for next season.

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    According to sources close to the Lakers' organization, Pat Riley and Dwyane Wade from the Miami Heat formally met with Lamar Odom this afternoon to discuss their contract offer of 5 years, $34 million at the MLE. The result of their meeting was that Odom ultimately said he appreciated their offer but that he would have to decline. He reiterated his love for the city of Miami for giving him a home, and to Riley for giving him his first big contract (of which he is currently coming off of).

    However, he felt his best chance to win another NBA championship would be with the Lakers, and that he felt he owed it to the city of Los Angeles to come back for another le run. Odom plans on meeting with Lakers' owner Jerry Buss later this week to finalize contract details. More to come later.

    http://lakersguy.blogspot.com/
    That guys is completely bull ting.

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    Well back on topic, it appears Lamar is leaving. It comes out he's leaning towards the Heat, then D Wade and Riles fly to LA to have a meeting with him this afternoon, then it comes out he'll announce his decision in the next day or so, then LO starts twittering like crazy for the first time in like three weeks. I'm connecting the dots and saying Lamar signed with the Heat this afternoon. Time for everyone to start writing off LA, can't wait for next season.
    Are you being sarcastic, or do you really think he's leaving L.A.? What is he twittering?

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    And if the Spurs didn't tank they wouldn't have Duncan or 4 championships.

    You just look like sour grapes everytime you bring it up.
    Once Rob went down the star of that team was Sean Elliott.

    Good call.

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    Are you being sarcastic, or do you really think he's leaving L.A.? What is he twittering?
    Not being sarcastic at all, I think he's headed to Miami.

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    The second most enjoyable thing all last season was seeing Mo get that nice bright shiner in the playoffs.
    gd rights, Luva. Yep, Mo thought he'd have it on Easy Street. He found out different. Big talker.

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    Are you being sarcastic, or do you really think he's leaving L.A.? What is he twittering?

    I believe that the actual term for using Twitter is Tweeting, but I've heard people use Twittering as well. Here is the link to Odom's Twitter page, but he stated in one post "Can't really tweet about work, but how is everyone doing otherwise??" so I don't think he is going to break any news on Twitter any time soon.

    http://twitter.com/ReaLLamarOdom

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    Once Rob went down the star of that team was Sean Elliott.

    Good call.
    Until Elliott got injured too, then we were relying on a washed up Dominique Wilkins who was fresh off of playing a season in Europe the year before.

    Yeah, what a tank job when your All Star center gets injured, not once, but twice (missed 18 games for his back, then the rest of the season with the foot) and your former All Star forward has season ending surgery. See below...

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sean_elliott/bio.html

    Elliott was bothered throughout the 1996-97 season by chronic tendinitis in his right quadriceps, finally undergoing surgery on February 18 and missing the remainder of the year. He played in just 39 games, averaging 14.9 ppg. The following season was just as troublesome -- he played in just 36 games, averaging 9.3 ppg, and did not play after January 21 following surgery to repair his left quadriceps tendon. He bounced back to start all 50 games in 1998-99, helping the Spurs win their first NBA le by averaging 11.2 points per game, third on the team.

    Look at the Spurs roster that year. WHo else was gonna win games for them with Robinson and Elliott out? Not to mention Chuck Person was on the payroll, yet didn't play a single game all season, due to a freak back injury on the team plane the previous year. In fact, the top 4 highest paid players on the team (DRob, Elliott, Smith, Person) played a combined total of 64 games.

    Wilkins
    Robinson injured, played 6 games
    Elliott -injured, played 39 games
    Vernon Maxwell
    Avery Johnson
    Vinny Del Negro
    Monty Williams
    Will Perdue
    Carl Herrera
    Cory Alexander
    Charles Smith -injured, played 19 games
    Gaylon Nickerson
    Greg "Cadillac" Anderson
    Jamie Feick
    Chuck Person - injured, played ZERO games

    Take the 4 highest paid players off of any team, and see what their record would be?

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