Reply With QuoteThe magic number of what? 12?
No one disputes that he earned 56 hours credit in '73. Where do you get this , DeSPURate?
47! Oh, sorry, that's the answer to life, the universe and everything...
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The magic number of what? 12?
No one disputes that he earned 56 hours credit in '73. Where do you get this , DeSPURate?
I need to go back and read more Adams than spend more time talking with this joke of a human being. The image clearly shows he didn't get 56 credits care to prove otherwise?
I have.
Care to tell us which of the following interpretations of the do ent you want to stick with?
DeSPURate:
"You need proof he only earned 12 credits here it is in 73"
"The top column equals 35: 3 3 4 2 1 4 8 4 5 1"
"Uh huh, and if you take the remainder and divide by two you get the magic number."
"Uh huh, and if you take the remainder and divide by two you get the magic number."
This is a joke.
"You need proof he only earned 12 credits here it is in 73"
the quote from USnew's expert of how the time should be alotted between the years of 72-73 and 73-74.
"The top column equals 35: 3 3 4 2 1 4 8 4 5 1"
Directly from the ARF.
But then you said dividing my answer by 2 to get the "magic number" which is it?
Are you depending on the news reports or can you actually read the do ent?
You've never played a magic number game?
Example: they choose a Five, then a Three.
5 (doubled) = 10, plus 5 = 15, multiply by 5 = 75.
Three added to total = 78. You subtract 25 = 53.
They picked a Five and a Three!
If this is supposed to represent '72 - '74, why are there no May '72 - May '73 dates on it?
And, if you multiply the TD by the PTS and add you get 58 (although I'm still having trouble making out some of the numbers).
Ask a guardsman from the period, he'll set you straight.
" If this is supposed to represent '72 - '74"
- its only supposed to represent those dates in terms of credits he had to earn.
"why are there no May '72 - May '73 dates on it?"
- it would be a different ARF, but guard members can not apply one years credit to the next.
And, if you multiply the TD by the PTS and add you get 58 (although I'm still having trouble making out some of the numbers).
- TD represents total days like I said. The points accrued in those days are represented to the right. which is why it says total points. You can't just add numbers haphazzardly until you get over fifty.
It wasn't haphazard.
This do ent has been used to prove he accrued the requisite hours for '73 - '74. You're just arguing for arguments sake.
This must be hard for you realizing that Bush isn't telling the truth. Look I was really pissed when I left the republican party because of the lies I had bought into hook line and sinker. Bush didn't earn the points to get a discharge. He was about thirty short which was why he was ordered to join a unit in Mass, when he left texas, He never did.
Keep your Kerry flip-flopping to yourself. Who cares why you left what party. I don't.
You nor anyone else has shown anything, beyond wild-assed conspiracy theories, the President has been less than forthcoming about his Guard Service.
WHy the orders to join a position in a Mass unit then? If he was truly done why did they order him to do that?
A Boston Globe investigation, published Wednesday, pointed out that Bush had twice signed do ents, in 1968 and again in 1973, in which he acknowledged a "responsibility to locate and be assigned" to a new guard unit when he moved away from Texas -- or risk a possible punishment of facing 24 months of active duty.
The Globe concluded that on at least two occasions -- when he moved to Alabama to help on a Senate campaign in 1972 and later in 1973 when he left for Massachusetts to attend Harvard Business School -- he failed to sign up with the local units.
link
So?"The Globe concluded..."
[Of course, there's no proof that he didn't either. - Y.]
Excerpts:
But note they do not say he didn't fulfill his Guard committment."Washington -- Files released by the White House Friday night from President Bush's Vietnam-era service in the National Guard show that the future president was an exemplary pilot whose military record contains numerous gaps in the last two years of his six-year commitment."
Okay, DeSPURate, this is from a paper that is not exactly kind to the President. Read the entire article for a regurgitation of your insinuations that he was AWOL or Deserted but, notice, they never say he didn't fulfill his obligation."For Bush's fifth year of Guard service, May 1972 to May 1973, he earned 41 "points" for his Guard service and was granted another 15 "gratuitous" points by his superiors, bringing him above the 50-point minimum requirement for the year. There are no records confirming that he participated in any Guard activities from May 1972 through the end of October 1972."
You didn't answer my question why did he sign a contract to join a unit in Mass?
I'm sorry, I wasn't there. Nor can I read his mind.
But, I do know the White House has shown appropriate do entation to prove he fulfilled his obligation to the Air National Guard and he was honorably discharged.
Starting rumors, making conspiracies out of whole cloth, and generally disparaging his service because you have a partisan bone to pick, means nothing to anyone beyond your own frothing base.
He really earned those gratuity points too didn't he?
www.nationalreview.com/yo...180840.asp
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year. At that time, Guardsmen were awarded points based on the days they reported for duty each year. They were given 15 points just for being in the Guard, and were then required to ac ulate a total of 50 points to satisfy the annual requirement. In his first four years of service, Bush piled up lots of points; he earned 253 points in his first year, 340 in his second, 137 in his third, and 112 in his fourth. For the year from May 1972 to May 1973, records show Bush earned 56 points, a much smaller total, but more than the minimum requirement (his service was measured on a May-to-May basis because he first joined the Guard in that month in 1968 ).
I like that you also posted an article only four days after the do ents were released. They hadn't even seen them for more than a few minutes yet.
Like I said that wasn't his last obligated year. 56 points has to be spread over two years.For the year from May 1972 to May 1973, records show Bush earned 56 points, a much smaller total, but more than the minimum requirement (his service was measured on a May-to-May basis because he first joined the Guard in that month in 1968 ).
Keep trying. Someone might believe your lies.
But we won't.
Six year commitment travis. You know I am right about this.
It's all there in the article. You really do need to learn to read.
6 year commitment was met. Period. End of story.
For the year from May 1972 to May 1973, records show Bush earned 56 points, a much smaller total, but more than the minimum requirement (his service was measured on a May-to-May basis because he first joined the Guard in that month in 1968 ).
Where the do you see this has to be split over 2 years?
Gee he signed up in what year Trav? May of 68? that would mean he was signed up to serve until 74. That he did not do.
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