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The road to life is thin and few find it. The path to death is wide and many find it. Sure it was for all, all who want it
No one forcing u to stick around ohm but u might learn thing or two. Im always open to learn and be sharpened
The road to life is thin and few find it. The path to death is wide and many find it. Sure it was for all, all who want it
That is Erasmian doctrine popularized by Luther. There is no innocent party. Scripture dictates that death, and death alone, can end a covenant marriage. The covenant, the marriage, exists until death.
Every scripture on marriage speaks to its permanence, including Matthew 5 and 19. These speak of Jewish betrothal where fornication is grounds to divorce an ESPOUSED WIFE, aka Mary and Joseph.
A covenant once ratified can neither be altered nor set aside. Gal 3:15
Remarriage while a spouse still lives is adultery, no matter who is or is not "innocent".
This innocent party nonsense is humanism. It is not supported by scripture.
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Scripture can only be learned by direct revelation or a messenger/apostle.
The narrow way vs the wide parallels the passages on the new wine and the old. It is talking about people like me who have found the truth. Those who haven't are the wide, the many, the old. Those who believe in the innocent party doctrine. Who reject righteous judgment. Who believe all the traditional nonsense taught by all the big denominations.
Only a demon god would roast people in for eternity over a lifetime of sin.
All will be judged and recompensed with equity.
Again, scripture does not support eternal punishment by fire, etc. It is ridiculous to think that a drop of sin would result in an bottomless ocean of torment.
The punishment won't be pleasant. However, it won't be eternal or in some mythological .
If you can't see the permanence of marriage, which is like kindergarten, then forget the rest. There is no way you will be willing or able to see it.
It wouldn't take a demon God but a just one who cant be in presence of sin due to His holiness. Blaphemy of the Holy Spirit cant be forgiven and thats what unbelievers do
Interesting the one whodoesnt believe in calls me humanist. I never mentioned being eternal fire but eternal separation from the imago dei, image of God, in which He is just giving them what they always asked for
solid third post tbh
skull, I have not lied to you. It is only your opinion that I did, when the fact is I did not. And further it does not matter to me whether you believe me or not.
The TRUTH is not JUST contained within the bible. Besides, it has been shown that the bible is incomplete and does not contain all the writings of the Word from the time of Christ, as well as has been changed throughout its history to suit those who sought control of the early Christians such as the Holy Roman Emperor Constantine did at the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D. when he had canon scholars decide which writings would be included and which excluded, and then again as late as 629 A.D., at the Council of Constantinople, with a number of major changes in between those dates, the latest being at the Council of Trent (1645-1563), yet even so it still does not contain all the writings as the Dead Sea Scrolls prove this.
So I make it a habit to refrain from retreating to hiding behind scripture in order to prove a point simply because you can easily prove, or disprove, whatever you want.
You have no right, nor will you ever have the right to judge me and especially by spouting incomplete and twisted scriptures that you have skewed to your own ends and probably have no idea what they mean in the first place!
I can only laugh at your feeble attempts. And pity you.
All you accomplish is make a further fool of yourself. If that is your goal then you are doing it admirably.
You need to examine your conscience, maybe go on a retreat sometime so you can get closer to God leaving your pride behind. Then you might actually learn something profound.
Brazil, God created us with a conscience, that is why we have one, but we also have free will to go against our moral conscience. As long as we are living our lives by morally following our conscience then we are doing Gods Will. And if are called upon to make a judgement call then we must check our conscience first and then live by that decision second, because ultimately God will judge us based upon it.
And basically this is the wrong forum for this type of discussion.
Last edited by xmas1997; 09-13-2013 at 05:21 PM.
You moron.. You are an idiot. The scriptures actually mention the number of candlesticks that make up......? Extrabiblical sources are wholly unnecessary.
I am judging you. The truth is not in you. You are a liar and a fool.
I feel really sorry for you, you know not what you do!
And ultimately you will be called down to pay for your narrow minded, convoluted, and self righteous bigotry by the very One you profess to follow.
I forgive your ignorance in this matter, and refuse to take offense.
That is just silly.
For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience, 31so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may nowe receive mercy. 32For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all. Romans 11:30-32
God is sovereign over all things. In the OT that so many incorrectly call literal, Pharoah had his heart hardened by God. The potter makes the clay as HE desires. Wicked people to contend against the good. There is no way He will make billions of people to either burn for ever or separate in anguish, particularly when HE made them that way. It is ludicrous and not supported. God is a JUST God and all will be recompensed with EQUITY. EQUITY.
You are spouting tradition.
Bigotry? You obviously don't even know what it means as it doesn't apply in any event.
I would feel sorry for you, but not even Jesus had much sympathy for unrepentant, hard headed, self-indulgent, cowardly hypocrites. People with no guts to stand for what is right would be very low on His Rolodex.
You really don't have any idea of what you're talking about.
You're trying to justify wrong actions by hiding behind the bible proves that.
Again, warning your brother that what he is doing is sinful is NOT wrong. IT IS COMMANDED.
STFU ALREADY.
You don't have to get all butthurt over it.
I am only trying to help you by pointing out the holes in your argument.
I am guided by the Holy Spirit in this in steering you toward your God given conscience rather than relying on man made scriptures that have been skewed and twisted according to mans own ends.
Yet you resort to baseless accusations and false teachings.
What does that accomplish you? Nothing but more foolishness.
I should have just told you that you have obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a .
But I tried to aid you in not going further astray than you already are.
Foolish notion on my part. We all have much to learn on this roller coaster called LIFE.
So I say again, leave this discussion for a different forum.
This is a sports forum!
The only holes are in your head.
You don't even know what the Holy Spirit is.
The carnal person (xmas) does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. - 1 Cor 2:14
Sorry to inform you but the only folly we are dealing with here is your reasoning!
Truth hurts sometimes!
Please....spare me your stupid assertions.
They are called "cliches".
And you would do well to heed them, better than you are doing now anyway!
Follow your God given conscience, skull, and you won't go further astray than you already are.
Last edited by xmas1997; 09-13-2013 at 06:35 PM.
I have a God-given conscience, given through revelation. Which is why I speak against the heresy spread by idiots like you, even though it comes at a price. Your conscience is dead. Scarred. Seared as Paul said.
When you stop posting lies I will stop refuting them.
Interesting the one whodoesnt believe in calls me humanist. I never mentioned being eternal fire but eternal separation from the imago dei, image of God, in which He is just giving them what they always asked for that's righteous judgement. The truth is simply the gospel not all this nonessential stuff you're complicating it with.
As I already told you once, no lies from me. Did you miss remedial reading in grade school or something, or have you not gotten that far yet?
Those lies you accuse me of are a figment of your 1st grade imagination.
Have you learned anything yet?
Doesn't appear you have because you keep spewing BS satanic bible .
Good luck with that.
Next you'll be telling me Mexican food in the Valley is better than in S.A. And quoting me demonic scripture to support it.
Don't you have anything better to do, like your homework, than to follow me around this website?
Im goin to have to side with xmas in that skull u sound like the pharisees u condemn. You have no clue how to share the truth with love gentleness n respect. You talk like one with a sharp mind n tongue but not a softened heart. You're right God is in control. We all are born into sin and He saves whomever He chooses to save. You're right again he does form the pots and the rest of the verse says he forms some for destruction. Jesus told Nicodemus you must be born again. That happens by faith God made it very easy.
Xmas there are no errors or missing books. The Bible is Word of God. Yo downplay that is to say God was not in control of what would be handed down to us. One of the test fir canonicity was whether something contained errors or contradictions as the bible contains none and God cant err. So the apocrypha you reference was never considered scripture cause it was nit inspired by Holy Spirit. Its good for history thats it. Plus it was written on different type of paper not the parchment of dead sea scrolls. Lots of books were discovered in dat cave. Secondly it is by comparing todays Bibles to the oldest manuscript evidence that we see the Bible has been translated with near perfect accuracy minus kjv. The minor differences are on small unimportant words that do not take away from the meaning. So no please do not use that argument as its a common one for unbelievers and no believer should believe that at all.
As I already told you once, no lies from me. Did you miss remedial reading in grade school or something, or have you not gotten that far yet?
Those lies you accuse me of are a figment of your 1st grade imagination.
Have you learned anything yet?
Doesn't appear you have because you keep spewing BS satanic bible .
Good luck with that.
Next you'll be telling me Mexican food in the Valley is better than in S.A. And quoting me demonic scripture to support it.
Don't you have anything better to do, like your homework, than to follow me around this website?
You're the one who can't read, as you've shown for page upon page.
Shut your trap and perhaps this thread will drop off. Keeping spewing unscriptural ignorance and this could be the longest thread of anyone's lifetime.
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