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    It was a trade, and it wasn't for Jack, specifically, it was for his shorter contract. That trade, boiled down, was our first round pick, for ELEVEN MILLION DOLLARS. I still can't believe GS did it.
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    smh this place
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    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kxkke55

    Wolters, Ilyasova and Middleton for Bonner, Baynes and De Colo.

    But the Bucks probably want Neal as part of the package. If that's the case, Beli would have to be included for it to make sense. It can be done without him financially by including Ayres for Baynes and swapping Joseph for Neal -- http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kcl9g24 -- but that leaves the Spurs with only Wolters and Parker as legitimate ones and pretty much forces Neal to back up Parker again. So it'd have to be Beli, Bonner and Baynes for Ilyasova, Middleton and Neal-- http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ke9eleo .

    The Morey in me would do that deal, since I think it would improve the club now and in the future. But I couldn't damn Beli to play in Milwaukee after he gave up money to come to the Spurs. Also, it's possible Ilyasova flops, leaving the Spurs with a bloated contract, a deep-bench combo-forward and a downgrade at the backup two.
    that would be a pretty fantastic deal, not going to happen unfortunately.
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    No way, man, I don't wanna give up Diaw. that.
    Kinda what I think. Thad would be incredible but I'd hate to lose Boris. Especaiily with his newfound shoot more mentality
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    Haven't read all the pages, but the Spurs are usually buyers on the trade market. They may be "unusually aggressive" because they have excess depth and roster imbalance. Joseph and De Colo are regular rotation guys on a number of teams. Ditto for Baynes.

    The concept of trading Diaw, as has been suggested, seems farfetched though.
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    I don't want Ersan. He doesn't strike me as someone who cares about improving or winning all that much. He's the kind of guy that views basketball strictly as a job and I don't think he would be happy with what could be a limited role on a team like the Spurs.

    He's got a very solid skill set, but I am not sure I would want him on the Spurs now that he got his money.
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    Spurs making a trade? Yea right.


    And roflmao Bonner being in the package.
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    I would still absolutely love Amir Johnson as the number one target, but TOR has a lot more questions than I think they anticipated. Moving Amir is far from a no-brainer if they think they can be a playoff team moving forward with smart drafting and FA moves.
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    What do you guys think about Mirza Teletovic? He can slide into the backup 3/stretch 4 role. The dude is an absolutely knock down shooter though the defense may be an issue.
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    I don't think anyone here gets to decide who is expendable, who is not. If the team can get better through trade minus the Big 3 then I think the front office is going to do it. Tim is almost 40. Lets be real here, this is officially the last hurrah. Officially. There is no more chance for another ring after this season with this Big 3. We all know this. It is literally now or never again... As fans it's time to wake up and realize this. Really enjoy what we have. Timmy will probably hang it up after next year...

    It is time for fans to wake up to the fact that LAST SEASON was the LAST hurrah. Unless we can magically upgrade to a true impact player that's good enough to more than compensate for Tim and Manu declining. But then we would probably need another perfect storm to get back to the championship round.

    It is not happening
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    Another year another runaway thread based on a "source" from Dubai
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    What do you guys think about Mirza Teletovic? He can slide into the backup 3/stretch 4 role. The dude is an absolutely knock down shooter though the defense may be an issue.
    I didn't realize New Jersey was tanking.
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    What do you guys think about Mirza Teletovic? He can slide into the backup 3/stretch 4 role. The dude is an absolutely knock down shooter though the defense may be an issue.
    why do you want to trade for matt bonner?
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    It is time for fans to wake up to the fact that LAST SEASON was the LAST hurrah. Unless we can magically upgrade to a true impact player that's good enough to more than compensate for Tim and Manu declining. But then we would probably need another perfect storm to get back to the championship round.

    It is not happening
    Its been the last hurrah and too old to compete for 5 years. Its hard to do any year but that is why they play the games. If they win cool, if not life goes on, at least there is a chance, 95% of the league cannot say that...
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    He was an elite floor-spacer who put up 17 and 10 per 36 on 45-percent shooting from range the last twp seasons prior to this one. He'd also be the youngest big on the team after Thomas. If he can recapture his old production in the Spurs system, his contract's a bargain. However, right now, it's an albatross. That should help the Spurs avoid having to give up assets for him. They may even get some for eating all that money.
    Last time we traded nothing (filler contracts) for a guy underproducing in Milwaukee... but either way, this time is a lot different. $7.9 million for the next two seasons after this is pretty good if he can put up play at the levels he put up the prior two years. Contract is only guaranteed for $400k three years out, which basically turns him into a nicely sized expiring contract the year after Tim/Manu likely hang it up if he's not in plans anymore.
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    No soft euro players
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    Thad Young would be a very good addition if it's for expiring deals/non key rotational players, but I would be shocked if that is all he costs. PHI is not CHI and aren't anywhere close to the Luxury Tax. They will want a very good asset for him, unlike Deng where he went for significant financial savings/pick(s).

    Spurs need some more athletes - it stands out at times and one that is a small ball PF is a good idea IMO. He's not a good 3PT shooter, but does attack and rebound. He is a productive player that is young and would add a dimension the team does not really have. But I would not give up any top 8-9 rotational player for him.
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    I would still absolutely love Amir Johnson as the number one target, but TOR has a lot more questions than I think they anticipated. Moving Amir is far from a no-brainer if they think they can be a playoff team moving forward with smart drafting and FA moves.
    I like Amir too, not sure on where his bball iq stands though. If I'm Toronto, this draft lottery, stocked with talent, is way more appealing to me than a first round outing. I still like Thad young as a number 1 target, especially with the spurs connections to that team. If Taj Gibson or Jeff Green were available due to tanking, I would add them to the list as well. MKG would also be an interesting target, but not sure he could help us this year.
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    While I like Taj well enough, he's not worth his contract IMO and is a bit overrated. Not a Jeff Green fan either. Not worth his contract.

    I don't love Thad's contract, but he's a better player than either Jeff Green/Taj for the same/less money guaranteed.
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    How quickly can you amnesty someone once you trade for them. In theory if there is not a waiting period you could take on a higher salary or one with multiple years and use them for a season or two and then amnesty it away.
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    How quickly can you amnesty someone once you trade for them. In theory if there is not a waiting period you could take on a higher salary or one with multiple years and use them for a season or two and then amnesty it away.
    You can't amnesty someone you trade for.
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    Why don't we package splitter+Bonner +de Colo+2014 1st rounder for Marc gasol? Seems like a good trade for both sides
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    You can't amnesty someone you trade for.
    Just read that, bummer you can't assume amnesty rights from the trade.

    I don't mind a few lean years after Tim and Manu walk away if it means championship now or at least a better chance at one. Thad young looks like he could flourish in our system, has a lot athleticism and hasn't quit on a ty Philly team over the years. Very young and hungry too
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