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    If by a chance Aldridge does come to SA, then to make it work does ter have to go primarily due to his contract? And what might his trade value be after this injury riddled year?
    I'm sure Philly, ORL, NOP, ATL are interested.

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    I'm sure Philly, ORL, NOP, ATL are interested.
    I don't think there will be any issue trading Splitter. Question would be if they can get any value for him. Teams will know that Spurs have gun to head to make move to fit in Aldridge, so chances are they'd have to pony up a first rounder. Don't love it, but that may be the price of admission and could even carve out space for Duncan/Manu to take smaller deals if they're willing.

    If I'm Manu or Tim though, I'm not playing for less than $5 million and $8 million, respectively.

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    I think the Spurs have him if they absolutely want him. Feels like Dwight and Houston, except we're not sure the Spurs are willing to make the roster moves to free up the money. I could see him on coming over on a $37M/2 deal with a player option that he ends up not declining.
    Obviously, Green has to be kept, at all costs. But beyond that, if Duncan and Ginobili want to return, they should tell Aldridge: You can have whatever type of contract you want, but if you want to play with these two for a year and have the best possible chance at a championship, we can't offer these two the veteran's minimum.

    Hopefully, they can coax him into working with them, taking something under the max, opting out after a year, then getting the max. Of course, he'd need a handshake agreement that, should he suffer a significant injury, they wouldn't renege on that.

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    I think the Spurs have him if they absolutely want him. Feels like Dwight and Houston, except we're not sure the Spurs are willing to make the roster moves to free up the money. I could see him on coming over on a $37M/2 deal with a player option that he ends up not declining.
    If you had to predict where he'd end up next season, where would it be and why?

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    Ok any self professed body language experts going to watch tonights game?

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    I'm not sure how Aldridge is a good fit...

    He's a guy that requires tons of post ups to even put on points..
    Considering that no one who logs into you knows wtf they are talking about beyond parroting takes from Grantland interviews, wgaf?

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    I don't think there will be any issue trading Splitter. Question would be if they can get any value for him. Teams will know that Spurs have gun to head to make move to fit in Aldridge, so chances are they'd have to pony up a first rounder. Don't love it, but that may be the price of admission and could even carve out space for Duncan/Manu to take smaller deals if they're willing.

    If I'm Manu or Tim though, I'm not playing for less than $5 million and $8 million, respectively.
    If the return is a young player on a rookie contract, I'd be fine giving up a first round. Only if they get the okay from Aldridge, that is.

    I agree. The way Tim has been playing this season, anything less than 5-8M is an insult.

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    I really think Duncan and Manu are going to sign team friendly 2yr/player option deals around the 7-10m range. It would help the Spurs transition phase tremendously and it will pretty much guarantee a chance to go out with 1 more or 3 peat...Just makes too much sense tbh

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    "If feeling great is 10, I'm about a 5, 6," Aldridge said in regards to his thumb.

    Hmm..seems like Aldridge would have great chemistry with TP, tbh, a lot in common..

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    "If feeling great is 10, I'm about a 5, 6," Aldridge said in regards to his thumb.

    Hmm..seems like Aldridge would have great chemistry with TP, tbh, a lot in common..

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    I'm just doing this quick and dirty (rounded) so if I make a mistake then so be it.

    The Spurs have the following commitments this offseason.

    TP9 - $14m
    Splitter - $8.5m
    Diaw - $7.5m
    Party Mills - $3.5m
    Anderson - $1.5m

    That is ~$35m committed already.

    Major free agents I actually give a about and their 2014 salaries:

    Leonard - rookie deal
    Duncan - $10m
    Green - $4m
    Belli - $3m
    Manu - $7m
    Baynes - $2m

    Leonard is only going to have 4 years of service time so he will be eligible for the lower max which is 25% of the cap. The 2015 cap is ~$66m so he should start at about $16.5m with the 7.5% raises bringing him to $17.7m the following year.

    For the purposes of this exercise I will assume Manu is brought back at Green's salary and Green is brought back at Manu's. Duncan stays the same. Belli gets a raise to $4m and Baynes is not brought back due to LMA being brought in.

    That gives us a cap figure of ~$73m which is just under this past years luxury tax threshold of $77m.

    LMA is a middle tier veteran and eligible for the 30% proportion which would be about $19.8m with the 4.5% increase you are looking at $20.7m in year two. They do that and it is likely a nonstarter because even if it is for one year, you are going to be looking at upwards of $30m in tax for that $93m cap charge. The following year however the cap goes up to about $90m so even with the increases we are unlikely to be over the tax threshold.

    The obvious 300 lbs gorilla is Parker's contract which he hasn't earned in two years at this point.

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    Plus, there has been an unexpected addition to the equation: Aldridge this spring became a father. His son and the mother live in San Antonio.

    During the playoffs, when Aldridge was excused from the team's flight to Houston before Game 3 in order to fly to Texas for a "family emergency," it was because his ex-girlfriend had gone into labor two weeks early.

    Jaylen Lea Aldridge was born April 23, a healthy 8 pounds.

    "He's fat right now, looks just like me when I was little," Aldridge said. "He has like three chins, and his legs are so fat, it's like 'Man, it's time for you to start running.' But he has big hands and feet and he has my ears."

    It is a serious development for Aldridge, whose father was not a part of his life. He is no longer with the mother, but has an arrangement to see his son every other week.

    "My father wasn't really in my life," Aldridge said. "So I'm going to be very involved, trying to be around him as much as I can, see him as much as I can."

    This is true, but he himself also lives in Dallas in the offseason so I don't think that matters much in terms of these two teams.

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    I'm just doing this quick and dirty (rounded) so if I make a mistake then so be it.

    The Spurs have the following commitments this offseason.

    TP9 - $14m
    Splitter - $8.5m
    Diaw - $7.5m
    Party Mills - $3.5m
    Anderson - $1.5m

    That is ~$35m committed already.

    Major free agents I actually give a about and their 2014 salaries:

    Leonard - rookie deal
    Duncan - $10m
    Green - $4m
    Belli - $3m
    Manu - $7m
    Baynes - $2m

    Leonard is only going to have 4 years of service time so he will be eligible for the lower max which is 25% of the cap. The 2015 cap is ~$66m so he should start at about $16.5m with the 7.5% raises bringing him to $17.7m the following year.

    For the purposes of this exercise I will assume Manu is brought back at Green's salary and Green is brought back at Manu's. Duncan stays the same. Belli gets a raise to $4m and Baynes is not brought back due to LMA being brought in.

    That gives us a cap figure of ~$73m which is just under this past years luxury tax threshold of $77m.

    LMA is a middle tier veteran and eligible for the 30% proportion which would be about $19.8m with the 4.5% increase you are looking at $20.7m in year two. They do that and it is likely a nonstarter because even if it is for one year, you are going to be looking at upwards of $30m in tax for that $93m cap charge. The following year however the cap goes up to about $90m so even with the increases we are unlikely to be over the tax threshold.

    The obvious 300 lbs gorilla is Parker's contract which he hasn't earned in two years at this point.
    Trying to understand how you bring LMA in if you're already above the salary cap; don't think it's possible without salary going out the door, whether through retirement (Duncan/Ginobili), free agency (Green, Beli, Ayres, Baynes, CoJo) or trade (Splitter, Mills, Parker, Diaw).

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    In order to sign a plus 14 million free agent the Spurs have to:

    1) Bring back one or both of Duncan and Ginobili giving these two the room exception and the bianual exception.

    2) Renounce either both of Ginobili and Duncan or renounce one and sign the other to one of the exceptions above.

    3) Trade either Parker for it or Splitter + something.

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    It's so damn obvious that Tony's extension is pretty much a loyalty reward one. I think he earned it, and PATFO thought the same, so be it.

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    Trying to understand how you bring LMA in if you're already above the salary cap; don't think it's possible without salary going out the door, whether through retirement (Duncan/Ginobili), free agency (Green, Beli, Ayres, Baynes, CoJo) or trade (Splitter, Mills, Parker, Diaw).
    Here, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...52#post7797052 , this does a much better job of breaking things down and was done a long time ago by Chinook. No need to guess or do anything else.

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    This would be... something. Dirk comes off the bench & plug LMA & Deandre at the 4/5.






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    This would be... something. Dirk comes off the bench & plug LMA & Deandre at the 4/5.





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    Aldridge looks done with Portland

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    Blazers lose, internet goes wild.








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    Shaq said he think LMA is going to Dallas

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    From what I understand, the only way we can have enough cap room to offer Aldridge a max contract (assuming Leonard gets a max offer this offseason) is if we renounce the rights to Diaw / Green / Bellinelli / Mills, right? Or if Duncan retires?

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    Watched the game he played with no heart looked like a slight upgrade to Splitter. With Kawhi being the future focus on offense I would love to get Jordan who could spend some quality time with Chip.. Can you imagine people trying to score facing Jordan, Kawhi, Green...

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    Can someone photoshop aldridge in a spurs jersey? Just like to troll my friends in FB.

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    oops nvm


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