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    It's just an admission you really can't produce any examples.

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    (shrugs)

    If it is obvious then it should be easy to explain. I just don't see the sheer volume of vitriol out of the Dems that I see coming out of the Fox "news" industrial complex.

    I am willing to consider anything new, but just simply don't understand the viewpoint is all. A bit of explanation is all I am asking for here.
    Really? The internet is too hard!

    Pick a moonbat blog.... Read the comments. Throw up. Rinse, repeat.

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    It's just an admission you really can't produce any examples.
    Ok.

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    You had and still have all the time in the world to post examples. It's not like you left the thread or anything.

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    You had and still have all the time in the world to post examples. It's not like you left the thread or anything.
    Ok.

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    And here you still are.

    Why not just post an example?

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    And here you still are.

    Why not just post an example?
    I'm still here because I generally don't ignore people. It's got nothing to do with you or the topic at hand. Usually, by now, people (decent people) would respect that, and move on. But, you can't seem to. Maybe you're not capable of letting go, and that's a character flaw. Maybe I should ignore you for your sake. You tell me.

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    I'm still here because I generally don't ignore people. It's got nothing to do with you or the topic at hand. Usually, by now, people (decent people) would respect that, and move on. But, you can't seem to. Maybe you're not capable of letting go, and that's a character flaw. Maybe I should ignore you for your sake. You tell me.
    OK, I'll tell you you should just post an example.

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    I'm still here because I generally don't ignore people. It's got nothing to do with you or the topic at hand. Usually, by now, people (decent people) would respect that, and move on. But, you can't seem to. Maybe you're not capable of letting go, and that's a character flaw. Maybe I should ignore you for your sake. You tell me.
    If you think it is a character flaw then why are you doing it? Seems self-destructive.

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    OK, I'll tell you you should just post an example.
    What'd Einstein say about insanity? That it's doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result? You're either that or have no decency. Which is it? Are you insane or a perpetual pesterer?

    I've given you a chance to prove you're neither.

    And, now, I can leave confidently knowing that I've given you that chance.

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    What'd Einstein say about insanity? That it's doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result? You're either that or have no decency. Which is it? Are you insane or a perpetual pesterer?

    I've given you a chance to prove you're neither.

    And, now, I can leave confidently knowing that I've given you that chance.
    I never expected you to answer.

    I'm quite confident you couldn't follow through at all.

    People do this all the time here. They get over their skis, are called on it and rely on a steady stream of insults to try to distract from the fact they just got caught.

    It's OK. It's just funny how much work people like you put in to deflecting when you could have quickly written a couple of sentences in response to what was asked of you.

    I guess you can pretend that's not what happened here. I won't take your insult attempts personally.

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    That it's so obvious is precisely my point. It shouldn't need to be explained, any attempts I make to explain aren't anything you haven't heard or seen. It's not about me telling you something you don't already know. It's your bias & ignorance, and I can't help you there. So this is dumb to me.

    Have a good one, I'm done here.
    So, it really isn't "obvious". If it were, justifying it would be a matter of stating or explaining it in a few sentences, which is all I was curious about.

    If what you believed were really justified, it shouldn't be so hard to explain. That you had to throw a hissy fit and stomp off and pout says that you probably know you can't justify it.

    I find that lazy, which seems to be a common trait on message boards. People like to avoid the real work of thinking, so they have all sorts of excuses why they won't do it, and continue weak-ass rationalizations even after their laziness has been pointed out to them.

    Are you always this lazy, or is this the only thing you are lazy about?

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    Really? The internet is too hard!

    Pick a moonbat blog.... Read the comments. Throw up. Rinse, repeat.
    The problem there is that the "fringe" on the left is not nearly as vocal, nor does the left really have a "thought leader" news outlet like fox news, with talking points handed out then dutifully repeated ad nauseum.

    I won't claim there aren't nutters on the left, it is just that they aren't the ones that have stormed the battlements and taken over the party, ref: tea party.

    The two sides are far from equivalent in that regard. There is still a modi of sanity guiding most Democratic politics.

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    I never expected you to answer.

    I'm quite confident you couldn't follow through at all.

    People do this all the time here. They get over their skis, are called on it and rely on a steady stream of insults to try to distract from the fact they just got caught.

    It's OK. It's just funny how much work people like you put in to deflecting when you could have quickly written a couple of sentences in response to what was asked of you.

    I guess you can pretend that's not what happened here. I won't take your insult attempts personally.
    I swear I typed my response before reading this. Funny.

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    The problem there is that the "fringe" on the left is not nearly as vocal, nor does the left really have a "thought leader" news outlet like fox news, with talking points handed out then dutifully repeated ad nauseum.

    I won't claim there aren't nutters on the left, it is just that they aren't the ones that have stormed the battlements and taken over the party, ref: tea party.

    The two sides are far from equivalent in that regard. There is still a modi of sanity guiding most Democratic politics.

    We understand -- Blue team is rational, thoughtful, etc., Red team is craycray

    Thanks

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    The baby parts stuff was totally irresponsible IMO. But they have every right to complain about Planned Parenthood without being labeled as fueling the deep desires of every anti choice, antiabortion zealot. When these claims are made haphazardly, then any disagreements on almost any subject can be linked to some zealot.

    The passion in this debate runs deeper because there really are people that think humans are being killed. You have to understand this even if you know the mother's rights are possibly trampled, and the killing extends to rape, incest and life of the mother via complications. There are inconsistencies. People are passionate about this.

    Now there are also people passionate about the death penalty. We might ask why these opponents are not attacking State Facilities where the penalty is being carried out. But immediately Blaming discussion of issues is dangerous IMO. Pointing out intentionally exacerbating violent behavior is not. Beware if you are disingenuously linking speech to a behavior.

    Boots you get an automatic exemption as a zealot. You can't be stopped, either can Cluttered Notions. This is a law of the Universe...Allegedly...
    short of highly contrived, inflammatory lies? certainly.

    is that what we're talking about in this thread?
    If you read the post above you will note my concern.

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    We uBlue team is rational, thoughtful, etc., Red team is craycray
    you got it. thanks for having dropped the hilariously false equivalence.

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    The problem there is that the "fringe" on the left is not nearly as vocal, nor does the left really have a "thought leader" news outlet like fox news, with talking points handed out then dutifully repeated ad nauseum.
    I won't claim there aren't nutters on the left, it is just that they aren't the ones that have stormed the battlements and taken over the party, ref: tea party.
    The two sides are far from equivalent in that regard. There is still a modi of sanity guiding most Democratic politics.
    Still wagging around the myth of equivalency teddy bear?
    Is there an propaganda index you're using to assign these, thus far, purely arbitrary statements of dominance...storming of battlements (sweet fear mongering reference! +10) et al?
    Of course not.
    What you fail to see while you're busy pandering to your cognitive bias is.....it doesn't ing matter who did it first or who you *think* did it most. What matters is it's being done by politicians, period.
    50 years from now, we'll read about the rise of neo-liberalism as both parties become virtually indistinguishable in actions...presenting and promoting wedge issues to campaign on and distract as they continue to fill their wallets and the wallets of their corporate sponsors while the electorate is left to argue the issue du jour.
    Sure, there will always be the Puritan left as a token to those not beholden to the corporate nipple. They are a necessary sop who will never be allowed to gain serious traction against an establishment hack.....see Sanders v Clinton.
    But, ignore this and clutch your equivalency teddy bear nice and tight.

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    And get off my ing lawn!

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    Still wagging around the myth of equivalency teddy bear?
    Is there an propaganda index you're using to assign these, thus far, purely arbitrary statements of dominance...storming of battlements (sweet fear mongering reference! +10) et al?
    Of course not.
    What you fail to see while you're busy pandering to your cognitive bias is.....it doesn't ing matter who did it first or who you *think* did it most. What matters is it's being done by politicians, period.
    50 years from now, we'll read about the rise of neo-liberalism as both parties become virtually indistinguishable in actions...presenting and promoting wedge issues to campaign on and distract as they continue to fill their wallets and the wallets of their corporate sponsors while the electorate is left to argue the issue du jour.
    Sure, there will always be the Puritan left as a token to those not beholden to the corporate nipple. They are a necessary sop who will never be allowed to gain serious traction against an establishment hack.....see Sanders v Clinton.
    But, ignore this and clutch your equivalency teddy bear nice and tight.
    Right wrong or indifferent the GOP has Roger Ailes and Clearchannel and they paint a pretty constant narrative of bull that there is no clear analog to on the other side. People like to rail against MSNBC but the last time I checked Bill Gates wasn't DNC leadership. I think he's right to hang his hat on the false equivalence because the two machines are not nearly the same.

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    That's the thing. They don't have to be and I've yet to encounter anything resembling a metric of effectiveness/efficiency.

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    The problem there is that the "fringe" on the left is not nearly as vocal, nor does the left really have a "thought leader" news outlet like fox news, with talking points handed out then dutifully repeated ad nauseum.

    I won't claim there aren't nutters on the left, it is just that they aren't the ones that have stormed the battlements and taken over the party, ref: tea party.

    The two sides are far from equivalent in that regard. There is still a modi of sanity guiding most Democratic politics.

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    Roger Ailes and Fox Repug propaganda network?

    Alex Jones?

    Glenn Beck?

    Michael Savage?

    Limbaugh?

    Cato?

    US CoC?

    AEI?

    ALEC?

    Breitbart?

    10s, 100s? of other right wing, paranoid, fear mongering, FUDs-spewing VRWC hate radio, media?

    Heritage/Dement?

    Every ing Klown in the Repug Klown Kar?

    cosplay patriots?

    NRA, GOA?

    Hilarious that you rightwingnut assholes ONLY "defense" is that the Dems are JUST AS BAD as your team



    TB

    There is NO COMPARISON, False ING Equivalence.

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    GFY. The adults are talking, poodle.

    Equivalency is irrelevant.

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    GFY. The adults are talking, poodle.

    Equivalency is irrelevant.
    ... you're peddling equivalency to defend your rightwing assholes, less

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