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    Well, as it happens, we did rig that election in a way.

    We insisted Hamas be allowed to participate.

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    Condi Rice and GWB did the insisting.

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    Ain't history weird?

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    NPR/Diane Rehm had VERY interesting guests + program this morning.

    Comey knew about Russians in the Dem machines for months, let them stay in there, but said nothing, saying he didn't want to influence the election.

    The hackers carefully dribbled out the Dem emails, etc week by week to counter any moves by Hillary. The emails kept getting media attention ahead of Hillary's campaign.

    With the above info about Comey, plus Comey's two trashings of Hillary, I think he was influential enough to put Trash in the WH, alone. But coupled with the Russians efforts, Comey had plenty of help.

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    Even if they did hack and publish the emails...

    We got to read the real facts without any media filter. I think it's hilarious that hard cores like Boo and Reck are incensed by FACTS being published that gave people more information before they voted.

    I assume from their outrage that they would prefer fewer FACTS and just have voters rely on candidate and media spin.

    How dare they let people know what was really going on with our elections!
    You just did the intellectual equivalent of flag burning.

    An authoritarian government whose stated position is that the idea of democracy is simply some sort of plot to overthrow them, has undertaken a DIRECT assault on our democracy, and because it benefitted the party you support, your position is "oh well".

    There are some things that should go beyond party, and this is it.

    You just put party over country, which is about as unpatriotic as it gets. That makes me deeply ashamed that some Americans like you completely abdicate the most basic civic duty of our country.

    If you don't like the country, please get the out.

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    All this hysteria and still no iron-clad, undeniable proof that the Russians "hacked" anything at all. The liberals who peddle this drivel are almost as bad as the Pizzagate nutjobs.
    The evidence is as conclusive as it gets.

    The conservatives who buy the "we just can't know" drivel, are as bad as the "faked moon landings" morons, who "just have questions" about the "official story".

    Your post is about as "blame the other guy for your own faults" as it gets. Sorry, not buying your pathetic attempt at deflection.
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    Be wise if our own government would stop being involved first.
    So, do you have a problem with foreign governments actively trying to meddle in, and discredit, US elections?

    Yes or no will do.

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    It's hilarious how the ST rightwingnutjobs are now pro-Russia and Pootin-fellators (remember, they trashed Obama because he didn't manspread like Pootin).

    My guess is that both Don the Con and his "Friend of Russia" were compromised while they were in Moscow.

    Trash, in town for his booty contest, was given plenty of contestants and Russian pussy to grab.

    Pootin probably got recordings of Trash ing one or more Russian girls or booty contestants. And why not Tillerson?

    OBL outsmarted the US, and I have no doubt that ex-KGB Pootin and his ex-KGB hitmen have outsmarted Trash, Tillerson, and USA.

    And ST assholes are all OK with it.

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    Lots of butt hurt in here today

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    It's hilarious how the ST rightwingnutjobs are now pro-Russia and Pootin-fellators (remember, they trashed Obama because he didn't manspread like Pootin).

    My guess is that both Don the Con and his "Friend of Russia" were compromised while they were in Moscow.

    Trash, in town for his booty contest, was given plenty of contestants and Russian pussy to grab.

    Pootin probably got recordings of Trash ing one or more Russian girls or booty contestants. And why not Tillerson?

    OBL outsmarted the US, and I have no doubt that ex-KGB Pootin and his ex-KGB hitmen have outsmarted Trash, Tillerson, and USA.

    And ST assholes are all OK with it.
    Speaking only for myself:::I am absolutely fine with it. We've as much blood on our collective hands as the next asshole in the long line.

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    The evidence is as conclusive as it gets.

    The conservatives who buy the "we just can't know" drivel, are as bad as the "faked moon landings" morons, who "just have questions" about the "official story".

    Your post is about as "blame the other guy for your own faults" as it gets. Sorry, not buying your pathetic attempt at deflection.
    & yet Barry never uttered one word about this during the heights of the campaign. No demand that Russia stop,,,No demand for immediate investigations,,,No demand for immediate Senate hearings. Nothing. Kept his mouth shut while Russia burned Hillary to the ground.

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    So, do you have a problem with foreign governments actively trying to meddle in, and discredit, US elections?

    Yes or no will do.
    When it butters my bread ('16) I've nary problem with it.

    When it doesn't feather my cap ('08/'12) I demand it stop.

    I don't give a good how the Lakers win the last game played in June. And I don't give a how Trump gets to the point of raising his hand come January.

    - "Git 'er down, dude, just git 'er done."

    - John Travolta - "Carrie"

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    Harry Reid Goes There About Comey

    Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said Monday FBI Director James Comey was "heavily involved as a partisan" in the weeks leading up to the election and that Comey's actions handed the presidency to Donald Trump.

    The retiring Nevada Democrat said Democrats "would have won the majority in the Senate and would have won the presidency but for Comey."

    Reid also states that they asked the FBI to condemn Russian hacking and how it was and the FBI refused to do so

    "I am saying the FBI did nothing -- did nothing.

    All the information that we've heard in the last couple weeks, it was available to the FBI.

    He just ignored it.

    He did not make it public.

    We asked him to more than once and he didn't do it,"

    Reid said.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/12/12/1610191/-Harry-Reid-Goes-There-About-Comey?detail=email&link_id=3&can_id=4217e8eb109c68 bd0c2e4143dd2d8c15&source=email-trump-shuns-scientists-taps-dancing-with-the-stars-contestant-to-oversee-nuclear-weapons&email_referrer=trump-shuns-scientists-taps-dancing-with-the-stars-contestant-to-oversee-nuclear-weapons&email_subject=trump-shuns-scientists-taps-dancing-with-the-stars-contestant-to-oversee-nuclear-weapons


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    Lots of butt hurt in here today
    Either foreign governments meddling in US elections is a problem for you or it isn't?

    If you don't think it is a problem, that's on you, especially because of the chicken way you rationalize it.

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    & yet Barry never uttered one word about this during the heights of the campaign. No demand that Russia stop,,,No demand for immediate investigations,,,No demand for immediate Senate hearings. Nothing. Kept his mouth shut while Russia burned Hillary to the ground.
    It came up repeatedly.

    It was the Republican party that tried to bury the story.

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    It came up repeatedly.

    It was the Republican party that tried to bury the story.
    Barry never made a Presidential issue of it. He's the POTUS. He should have demanded that Russia stop, and if it continued, all options would be on the table. But, instead he turned a deaf ear to it. Why? I don't know. Hoping it would go away? Hoping that it wouldn't turn enough ballots to cause Hillary to lose? Hoping that it wouldn't get any worse?

    It was on his watch. He is the POTUS. He failed Hillary. He failed us/me withstanding. Of course Media doesn't call him on it. Not even Conservative channels. Not a word of indictment.

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    Either foreign governments meddling in US elections is a problem for you or it isn't?

    If you don't think it is a problem, that's on you, especially because of the chicken way you rationalize it.
    We've been meddling in the world's elections for umpteenth years. We've been cited for it time & again. And we've skinned & grinned our way away from the incident(s).

    How does it feel when the shoe is on the other foot? I'll tell ya how:::like shaved pussy.

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    It came up repeatedly.

    It was the Republican party that tried to bury the story.
    Actually, the NPR program guests said this morning that of course the Obama/DoJ knew all about the Russian hacking months ago

    I expect Obama didn't want to be see to be (ab)using his power to influence the election,

    but,

    IT, he's sworn to defend the Cons ution and the USA.

    The Russians were actually WARRING on the USA and he did nothing.

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    Harry Reid Goes There About Comey

    Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said Monday FBI Director James Comey was "heavily involved as a partisan" in the weeks leading up to the election and that Comey's actions handed the presidency to Donald Trump.

    The retiring Nevada Democrat said Democrats "would have won the majority in the Senate and would have won the presidency but for Comey."

    Reid also states that they asked the FBI to condemn Russian hacking and how it was and the FBI refused to do so

    "I am saying the FBI did nothing -- did nothing.

    All the information that we've heard in the last couple weeks, it was available to the FBI.

    He just ignored it.

    He did not make it public.

    We asked him to more than once and he didn't do it,"

    Reid said.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/12/12/1610191/-Harry-Reid-Goes-There-About-Comey?detail=email&link_id=3&can_id=4217e8eb109c68 bd0c2e4143dd2d8c15&source=email-trump-shuns-scientists-taps-dancing-with-the-stars-contestant-to-oversee-nuclear-weapons&email_referrer=trump-shuns-scientists-taps-dancing-with-the-stars-contestant-to-oversee-nuclear-weapons&email_subject=trump-shuns-scientists-taps-dancing-with-the-stars-contestant-to-oversee-nuclear-weapons

    Reid has nobody to blame but himself & Barry. They politicized these government arms,,,CIA, FBI, DOJ have all been politicized & corrupted under their watch. Why did this happen? Because they couldn't process their agenda thru proper protocols. They didn't have the might,,,MOST IMPORTANTLY THOUGH:::They didn't have the ing patience. So they cheated the system and now the chickens have come home to roost.

    I've no sympathy for them.

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    Actually, the NPR program guests said this morning that of course the Obama/DoJ knew all about the Russian hacking months ago

    I expect Obama didn't want to be see to be (ab)using his power to influence the election,

    but,

    IT, he's sworn to defend the Cons ution and the USA.

    The Russians were actually WARRING on the USA and he did nothing.
    bouts

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    Barry never made a Presidential issue of it. ..He should have demanded that Russia stop, and if it continued, all options would be on the table. But, instead he turned a deaf ear to it.
    How do you know Obama didn't communicate a demand for it to stop? Do tell.

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    How do you know Obama didn't communicate a demand for it to stop? Do tell.
    Obviously because it intensified.

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    The evidence is as conclusive as it gets.
    The FBI and ODNI disagree with you there.

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