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    However, of note is the fact that the developer is a convicted felon. Mail Fraud being the crime. Good to know the people that are looking into this are class acts.
    Say it isn't so! A human being making a mistake in life. Oh god, forget it. This thing should not happen! Mail freakin fraud!? Even though he's served his time, he should be thrown back and locked up for good.

    Its pretty safe to say that the article makes it very clear HollyHills has not purchased any land near the vicinity
    No, but the interview with the CEO on KSAT did.

    Almost struck some Texas T!

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    From the article that Manny linked and the article I posted a couple of weeks ago.

    HollyHills Development began master planning and developing our company's vision for the East Side of San Antonio 10 months ago," HollyHills spokesman T.J. Connolly said.
    In the interview with KSAT the CEO said the company had done millions of dollars in studies over the last year of the area and the results of those studies is the reason they have moved forward with this complex.

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    Thank you for using an article from the 11th of this month.

    I'll go with the CEO's interview the other night.

    But keep going Manny. I'm sure you'll strike oil some time within the next 200 years.
    Why wasn't it written about if the purchase was made? Do you realize how big of a purchase that is?

    Tell you what. Go to the county website and find the property deeds in that area. It's all public domain information, its there. I already know what you'll find. The owners aren't Holly Hill.

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    Say it isn't so! A human being making a mistake in life. Oh god, forget it. This thing should not happen! Mail freakin fraud!? Even though he's served his time, he should be thrown back and locked up for good.



    No, but the interview with the CEO on KSAT did.

    Almost struck some Texas T!
    I never said lock him up. I think a measure of awareness is nessecary when dealing with a convicted felon - of fraud no less - in this type of situation.

    The one good side effect of your life long virginity will be the fact that you will never procreate. Thank god for small favors.

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    From the article that Manny linked and the article I posted a couple of weeks ago.



    In the interview with KSAT the CEO said the company had done millions of dollars in studies over the last year of the area and the results of those studies is the reason they have moved forward with this complex.
    Who here disputed that?

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    At the risk of introducing a possibly relevant idea into this thread, I thought I read somewhere that the county might sell the land that Willow Springs sits on to provide land for this type (general) of project. That might be just the right amount of land to build a racetrack and a multi-use stadium for both football and baseball. That would leave enough room for parking and/or use of the existing parking across the street at the SBC would allow for more development on the Willow Springs site. Also, as long as new barns were constructed on the original land donated, would that still cover the county under the terms of the original donation? Just as an idea to cir vent this type of issue, since some of the barns will be rebuilt, couldn't (asking here) they be rebuilt on less prime land (far corner in a less desirable area) and free up the space next to the SBC?

    Of course, Willow Springs flooded during the big flood a few years ago to the point where I recall debris in the trees about 10-15 feet above the ground. Also, I'd agree that the racetrack comes first and then some pitch is made for the stadium and only if a team is secured for it. A multi-use stadium is the way to go so it could accommodate both teams if secured, either/or if only one team is secured, and to minimize risk if no team is secured.

    That also being said, I personally think (no links at this time but thanks for not asking) that SA can not support three major league sports. The Spurs have a hard enough time squeezing money out of the people and corporations of the city. They constantly work all angles and search endlessly for new revenue streams to make it all work. This is a championship team and it still requires this type of effort. Most teams that relocate are not elite level teams and unless the Texans or Cowboys decide to move to SA, there would be some initial interest but unless the team started winning quickly, interest would diminish rapidly. Given the limited income of the residents of SA, choices have to be made. Do you watch your beloved world championship San Antonio Spurs whom you've had a love/hate relationship with for most of your life, or do you watch the relocated franchise that is struggling to stay out of the cellar in their rankings. As a corporate sponser with limited budgets for such things, do you associate with a clear winner or a possible perennial loser?

    your idea to include Willow Springs (as has also been advocated by others) makes too much sense for San Antonio.

    The political reality is that the SBC/Freeman complex is owned by Bexar County and Willow Springs is owned by the City of San Antonio. The San Antonio City Council is way too ed up to ever get anything done on a City/County partnership.

    By the way...Bullock,Smith is now a part of the planning group. I told you that Spurs/Rodeo wanted them and since they were the ones that paid the bills it would happen.

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    The group Holly Hills Investors is considering purchasing a large amount of land near the SBC Center that would house the complex, the spokesman said.
    http://www.ksat.com/sports/5190593/detail.html

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    Manny...that just can't be right! Writer says it's a done deal and Hollu Hills already bought the property!

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    I figured the foundation for the Olympic pavillion would have been laid this weekend...

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    Only 3 pages left until it gets to 15.

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    Haha... manny, grasping.

    So CEO over who's words?

    Manny's?

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    you just can't admit you are wrong can you?

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    you just can't admit you are wrong can you?
    I would, if I were.

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    If HollyHills has bought the property, why doesn't the group show up as the owner of said property? This isn't rocket science.

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    Post a picture of the HollyHills legal representative signing the contract.

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    If HollyHills has bought the property, why doesn't the group show up as the owner of said property? This isn't rocket science.
    Why doesn't my fathers vacant property show up? He's had it for some 10 years now.

    Again. CEO > ST.com Tool Sheep Herd

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    Post a picture of the HollyHills legal representative signing the contract.
    Hold up, do you want it off the TV or ripped from Slomo?

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    Maybe your father has disposed of it. Provide an address and we'll see if your claim is accurate.

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    Maybe your father has disposed of it. Provide an address and we'll see if you claim is accurate.
    Disposed of it?

    It's an empty lot, I don't have the lot number with me.

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    Where the is the CEO saying that!???!?!? Show me something in print! Why didn't the EN quote him! Why hasn't the relocation of a sizeable neighborhood (for which the negotiatinos went really ing quickly and quietly) been mentioned? Why hasn't the impact to Exxon and UP been discussed in the paper or on the news?

    What the , are you that ing re ed? Just when I am sure that you can't get any ing dumber, you do!

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    Disposed of it?

    It's an empty lot, I don't have the lot number with me.

    Doesn't matter. If he owns it, there will be a public record.

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    Where the is the CEO saying that!???!?!? Show me something in print! Why didn't the EN quote him! Why hasn't the relocation of a sizeable neighborhood (for which the negotiatinos went really ing quickly and quietly) been mentioned? Why hasn't the impact to Exxon and UP been discussed in the paper or on the news?

    What the , are you that ing re ed? Just when I am sure that you can't get any ing dumber, you do!

    Add to that the notion of ownership without a public record.

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    Why didn't the EN quote him!
    Probably because it was a interview with KSAT.

    Why hasn't the relocation of a sizeable neighborhood (for which the negotiatinos went really ing quickly and quietly) been mentioned?
    You tell me. Again: CEO > You.

    Actually, foot s > you.

    What the , are you that ing re ed? Just when I am sure that you can't get any ing dumber, you do!
    All those nice words for me?

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    Doesn't matter. If he owns it, there will be a public record.

    Actually just checked it, its does appear.

    I used the Bexar County appraisal website.

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    Well, there you go.

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