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    How about demar + belli + 2 1st round picks for porter and markanen
    Markanen is untouchable.

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    Even if Walker looks like Donovan Mitc this season and can put up 20 points every game I'd keep DeRozan. All this team needs is a starting caliber 3-and-D SF to be a top team in the west

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    These trades are ridiculous, DeRozan is a top 15 player in the league.
    Can you name the (at least) ten guys on this list that DeRozan is better than?

    Kawhi Leonard
    Steph Curry
    Giannis Antekutoumpo
    Anthony Davis
    Paul George
    Damian Lillard
    James Harden
    Russell Westbrook
    Nikola Jokic
    Klay Thompson
    Kyrie Irving
    Joel Embiid
    Pascal Siakam
    Jimmy Butler
    Ben Simmons
    Lamarcus Aldridge
    Victor Oladipo
    Bradley Beal
    Kemba Walker
    Luka Doncic
    Blake Griffin
    Mike Conley
    CJ McCollum
    Donovan Mitc

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    Even if Walker looks like Donovan Mitc this season and can put up 20 points every game I'd keep DeRozan. All this team needs is a starting caliber 3-and-D SF to be a top team in the west
    Not sure I get it. So why keep the no3-and-noD starting SF?

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    Bulter, Mitc , McCollum, Doncic, Oladipo,

    That's about it.

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    Bulter, Mitc , McCollum, Doncic, Oladipo,

    That's about it.
    all of them are better than DeRozan

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    Not sure I get it. So why keep the no3-and-D SF
    depth that's why. Spurs have an advantage against any team in the West with a 2 guard pairing as their go-to guys. That includes Warriors, Blazers, Jazz, Rockets. White and Murray can lock any guard pairing down. Now the LA teams have forwards so Spurs would need another SF to throw at Kawhi, PG, LeGM.
    But the main weakness of those LA teams is depth. If you ask me there's a good chance that Walker can be the same offensive threat that DeRozan is by the end of the season. But why trade one when you could have both? That would give every team with a bad bench of a problem. The Spurs should bet on depth and internal improvement. This could be a deep and very balanced team kind of like in 2014

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    lol what?! You expect Murray to make 25 millions per year?

    I hope that's the case, tbh. It would mean he became an all-star.
    No, it really wouldn't. Oubre and Morris were afterthoughts and got $15 Million. Jamaal Murray got $34 Million. $25 Million is just the price of doing business for good players coming off rookie deals.

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    They would never have traded FOR him had they thought that. PATFO isn't stupid. They knew who DMDR was when they made the team. Teams tried to trade for him back then, and they said no. If their plan was to run with their young guys, DeRozan would already be gone.
    Flawed premise. You’re assuming some sort of steady state with both DeRozan, and the youngsters. The latter are much more developed and ready to step forward than they were last year.

    It’s always been my thought that DD and LMA were just a bridge to the future, a way to stay a winning, playoff team while developing the new core.

    I also think that any return from a potential trade of DD should be short term. We now have forwards in the pipeline, KJ and Luka, but they’ll need a year in Austin. OPJ would be perfect. He defends and shoots the three ball, and will almost certainly opt out next summer, so he won’t get in the way of your development pipeline.

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    didn't somebody here say Spurs inquired about Fournier? I could see something like DeRozan + Belinelli for Gordon + Fournier. Wouldn't want anything the Pistons got.
    A trade with the Bulls would have to involve either Porter or LaVine (doubt that).

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    How about something like:

    TOR: DeRozan, Noel, Spurs 2nd
    OKC: Ibaka, Belinelli, Toronto 1st
    SAS: Gallinari, OG Anunoby, Clippers 1st

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    How about something like:

    TOR: DeRozan, Noel, Spurs 2nd
    OKC: Ibaka, Belinelli, Toronto 1st
    SAS: Gallinari, OG Anunoby, Clippers 1st
    OKC says no, but otherwise pretty solid for Spurs and Tor.

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    How about something like:

    TOR: DeRozan, Noel, Spurs 2nd
    OKC: Ibaka, Belinelli, Toronto 1st
    SAS: Gallinari, OG Anunoby, Clippers 1st
    Raps give up another 1st and OG to take DDR back? OKC gives us a first for some reason. Don't think that trade makes sense.

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    OKC says no, but otherwise pretty solid for Spurs and Tor.
    Why not Ibaka and a 1st for DDR? That would be a simpler trade.

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    Why not Ibaka and a 1st for DDR? That would be a simpler trade.
    Straight to the Spurs? We miss the playoffs with that.

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    At the end of the day, it comes down to how each one sees DeRozan. To me DeRozan is an extremely flawed player that really doesn't move the needle much, if at all. There are years and years of data to support this point. So I think that trading him for a 3 and D player and letting the young guys take a step forward wouldn't hurt or compe iveness one bit. With the added bonus that said trade would also provide us with building blocks for the future. That's why I think it should be a no brainer to trade DeRozan if such a trade presents itself.
    yes exactly this

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    Why not Ibaka and a 1st for DDR? That would be a simpler trade.
    Not nearly enough for DDR

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    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y4cyo385

    Bulls get: DeRozan, Augustine
    Magic get: Bulls 1st, Spurs 1st, Dunn, Mills, Marco
    Spurs get: Otto, Gordon

    starting 5:
    White
    Murray
    Otto
    Gordon
    Aldridge

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    didn't somebody here say Spurs inquired about Fournier? I could see something like DeRozan + Belinelli for Gordon + Fournier. Wouldn't want anything the Pistons got.
    A trade with the Bulls would have to involve either Porter or LaVine (doubt that).
    OPJ. Perfect fit.

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    If you think that 2 out of 3 of Dejounte, White, or Lonnie has a chance at being above average to All-Star level, there are very few players in the league that are a worse fit next to them than Demar Derozan tbh.

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    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y4cyo385

    Bulls get: DeRozan, Augustine
    Magic get: Bulls 1st, Spurs 1st, Dunn, Mills, Marco
    Spurs get: Otto, Gordon

    starting 5:
    White
    Murray
    Otto
    Gordon
    Aldridge
    Just.
    Stop.

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    I don't why this is even being talked about. The Tweet stated that teams called the Spurs inquiring about DeRozan that doesn't mean he's getting traded in fact it means quite the opposite. I f the Spurs wanted to trade DeRozan they would have done it during free agency or during the draft not in middle of the summer. They only traded Kawhi in mid July because he wanted out and they had no choice. I'm not sure that if there wasn't rift between Kawhi and the Spurs that they would have traded as opposed to letting his contact expire.

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    Nah. Things are fun right now with speculation and false hope. Things will get really boring after the season starts and the spurs haven’t traded DeRozan. And everyone realizes the spurs will be a 7-9 seed. But that hasn’t happened yet so hope people propose a ton of trades and have fun

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    Bulter, Mitc , McCollum, Doncic, Oladipo,

    That's about it.
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