Zaccharie Risacher - 2024 NBA Draft Prospect

[Dejounte]

Then maybe you should stop posting like a teenage girl on Instagram and actually say what you mean?

I’ve said my case ad nauseum. Maybe I should create a thread just to link it to anyone who asks like TD 21. Totally serious and not bashing you TD.

[LeBowen]

You know maybe looking at these overpaid 3 and D players in the league and the team they’re on and how they’re not that successful should tell you something. Minnesota isn’t where they are because of Jaden. It’s because they have three “psuedo stars” (as TD 21 likes to say) carry them.

First off, you completely missed my point and then went all out agressive, digging yourself deeper.
I mentioned McDaniels' new contract because I think he's nothing special and got overpaid.
But that just shows how valuable 3-D players are in today's league.
He's obviously just a role player, but his and NAW's defense were massive for Minnesota and one of the reasons why they got to WCF.

Anunoby doesn’t even raise their ceiling and is probably a reason why it will never be raised because they’re locked on to him.

Anunoby doesn't raise their ceiling?
Knicks were 20-3 with Anunoby this season.
Without him? 30-29.
Eliminated Sixers in the first round.
Went 2-0 up in second and then lost 4 out of 5 after he went down.
I'm sure you'll try to strawman that one into a coincidence.

If he's worth $40M a year is a valid question, but he's surely worth $30M.
He's the closest thing to 2014 nephew in the league right now. Injury issues included.

You’re making correlations here and failing to look at the results. Saying “look at these highly paid players! This is a good reason to invest a top 5 pick on one!” is far too simplistic.

Again, you completely missed the point and picked a very strange hill to die on.

Basketball is a simple game.
Not counting Luka, Mavs are 5-32 from 3pt in these two games. Both were very winnable.
Through the entire playoffs DJJ and Washington were praised for their 3-D game.
They defended well and hit important shots on the other end.
Their shot stops falling and they're 0-2 down.
If they don't start hitting shots again, they're going to get swept.


Would Risacher at #4 be worth it if he's another Jaden McDaniels? No.
Would Risacher at #4 be worth it if he's another OG Anunoby? yes.
Very few drafts have 4 better players than OG Anunoby and this class is one of the weakest in a very long time.
There's not a single other player with good defense and reliable shot in it.
And the couple of players with star potential and a lot of red flags will probably be available at #8 to take an upside swing.

If there were legit star potential players in this awful draft, I'd be all for it.
But picking Buzelis or whichever other theoretical player is just not it.
It's going to come down to Sheppard, Castle or Risacher at #4, which I don't mind.
But I most definitely do want Dillingham over for example Knecht at #8.

[Dejounte]

Look, man

I’m going to make a quick reply because I’m about to start my day and then likely a better one later (as best I can through my phone… i cant do all the fancy quoting youre doing)

first, I wasnt at all trying to be aggressive. The words I put out, when i re-read it, have no aggression in my mind

second, please understand the difference between floor raiser and ceiling raiser because I think that is lost in your post

[LeBowen]

second, please understand the difference between floor raiser and ceiling raiser because I think that is lost in your post

What makes you think I don't understand it?
My entire argument is that I'd take Risacher if he's available at #4 because there are no actual floor raisers in this draft other than Sheppard/Risacher if their skillset instantly translates to the NBA.
Ignite wings would be useless in the first couple of seasons even if they had star potential, Castle is another ceiling raiser if he doesn't develop his shot.

More importantly, my preference is to make Markkanen trade happen if there's a chance for it.
He'd be our both floor and ceiling raiser.

[DAF86]

Look, man

I’m going to make a quick reply because I’m about to start my day and then likely a better one later (as best I can through my phone… i cant do all the fancy quoting youre doing)

first, I wasnt at all trying to be aggressive. The words I put out, when i re-read it, have no aggression in my mind

second, please understand the difference between floor raiser and ceiling raiser because I think that is lost in your post

We already got our ceiling raiser in Wemby, we need to start surround him with some floor raisers so that we can stop sucking.

[rankingtear]

We already got our ceiling raiser in Wemby, we need to start surround him with some floor raisers so that we can stop sucking.

Wemby is the engine he is the floor raiser. Ceiling raisers are high end role players.

[DAF86]

Wemby is the engine he is the floor raiser. Ceiling raisers are high end role players.

That's a strange way to look at it. I see superstars as the pieces that make you championship contenders, hence "ceiling raisers".

If you have a team full of good role players, you won't be a bad team, but you will never win it all. Hence "floor raisers".

I guess one could see it as: "we already have a superstar, if we add some good role players we can win it all", so I guess it can work both ways, but I think the Superstar being the "ceiling raiser" makes more sense. DeRozan raises the floor, Wemby raises the ceiling.

[LeBowen]

That's a strange way to look at it. I see superstars as the pieces that make you championship contenders, hence "ceiling raisers".

If you have a team full of good role players, you won't be a bad team, but you will never win it all. Hence "floor raisers".

I guess one could see it as: "we already have a superstar, if we add some good role players we can win it all", so I guess it can work both ways, but I think the Superstar being the "ceiling raiser" makes more sense. DeRozan raises the floor, Wemby raises the ceiling.

True superstars raise both floor and ceiling.
As in they're capable of carrying rosters to the playoffs, even winning a series here and there.

Solid all-stars and fake superstars like Harden are floor raisers.
They're capable of carrying rosters, looking good on legit rosters, but when they need to raise the ceiling and win you a playoff series, they disappear.

Role players are ceiling raisers.
Clutch role players are ceiling raisers in the playoffs.

[Kevin]

Dusty Garza is on Twitter saying the Spurs are targeting Zacc in a trade up with the Hawks and later on hints that Trae Young might be included in a mega deal.

It would probably looks like this:

Spurs get:
Trae Young
1st pick

Hawks get:
Keldon Johnson
Zollins
4th pick
8th pick
full refund on the DJM picks.

Spurs staring lineup:

Trea
Dev
Zacc
Sochan
Wemby

[dubross]

I wouldn’t do that trade if I’m the spurs

[ChumpDumper]

Dusty Garza is on Twitter saying the Spurs are targeting Zacc in a trade up with the Hawks and later on hints that Trae Young might be included in a mega deal.

It would probably looks like this:

Spurs get:
Trae Young
1st pick

Hawks get:
Keldon Johnson
Zollins
4th pick
8th pick
full refund on the DJM picks.

Spurs staring lineup:

Trea
Dev
Zacc
Sochan
Wemby

That trade looks...not great....

And if someone is tweeting a thing, just post the tweet.

[z0sa]

Dusty Garza is on Twitter saying the Spurs are targeting Zacc in a trade up with the Hawks and later on hints that Trae Young might be included in a mega deal.

It would probably looks like this:

Spurs get:
Trae Young
1st pick

Hawks get:
Keldon Johnson
Zollins
4th pick
8th pick
full refund on the DJM picks.

Spurs staring lineup:

Trea
Dev
Zacc
Sochan
Wemby

Waaaaaaaaaay too big of a package for Trae Young. I want him, but not at that absurd cost.

[itzsoweezee]

Dusty Garza is on Twitter saying the Spurs are targeting Zacc in a trade up with the Hawks and later on hints that Trae Young might be included in a mega deal.

It would probably looks like this:

Spurs get:
Trae Young
1st pick

Hawks get:
Keldon Johnson
Zollins
4th pick
8th pick
full refund on the DJM picks.

Spurs staring lineup:

Trea
Dev
Zacc
Sochan
Wemby

Yuck. What a horrible trade. That can’t be real

[SpursFan86]

This reeks of BS tbh Think dude is just looking for clicks.

[BatManu20]

no. Spurs would be getting bent over in that trade.

Furthermore, Spurs don’t leak like this so you know it’s bull .

[exstatic]

Dusty Garza is on Twitter saying the Spurs are targeting Zacc in a trade up with the Hawks and later on hints that Trae Young might be included in a mega deal.

It would probably looks like this:

Spurs get:
Trae Young
1st pick

Hawks get:
Keldon Johnson
Zollins
4th pick
8th pick
full refund on the DJM picks.

Spurs staring lineup:

Trea
Dev
Zacc
Sochan
Wemby

Crusty Schmarza. Yeah, let me go put some money down on that.

Not sure ho long you’ve been here, but this place was founded to get away from him.

[SpursDynasty85]

Dusty Garza is on Twitter saying the Spurs are targeting Zacc in a trade up with the Hawks and later on hints that Trae Young might be included in a mega deal.

It would probably looks like this:

Spurs get:
Trae Young
1st pick

Hawks get:
Keldon Johnson
Zollins
4th pick
8th pick
full refund on the DJM picks.

Spurs staring lineup:

Trea
Dev
Zacc
Sochan
Wemby

. There is a reason Spurs haven't showed interest in Trae Young. Trae Young costs too much for Spurs to do that. They value their money and flexibility.

[Joseph Kony]

Dusty Garza is on Twitter saying the Spurs are targeting Zacc in a trade up with the Hawks and later on hints that Trae Young might be included in a mega deal.

It would probably looks like this:

Spurs get:
Trae Young
1st pick

Hawks get:
Keldon Johnson
Zollins
4th pick
8th pick
full refund on the DJM picks.

Spurs staring lineup:

Trea
Dev
Zacc
Sochan
Wemby

[DPG21920]

That trade looks...not great....

And if someone is tweeting a thing, just post the tweet.

Agree and aside fro that, I would rather have picks 4 and 8 than 1 tbh….

[DPG21920]

I dont really want him period, but I would only do something like:

Spurs Get: Trae + Pick 1

ATL Gets: Collins + Keldon + 3 ATL picks back

Spurs get pick 1 and keep 4 and 8 too.

[td4mvp2k]

Waaaaaaaaaay too big of a package for Trae Young. I want him, but not at that absurd cost.

spurs shouldnt include all the hawks picks back since their in a corner with him on the roster... other then that no problem with the deal.

[scott]

I dont really want him period, but I would only do something like:

Spurs Get: Trae + Pick 1

ATL Gets: Collins + Keldon + 3 ATL picks back

Spurs get pick 1 and keep 4 and 8 too.

I was gonna say, this seems like a super over pay. If the Spurs really wanted to do this, then I would leave #4 out of it... but even then, I'm not interested for the Spurs (and I'm not a Trae hater by any means. I actually like him as a player - just like all of those ATL picks better).

[scott]

Also, lol Dusty Garza. Haven't heard that pathetic name in a long time.

[z0sa]

spurs shouldnt include all the hawks picks back since their in a corner with him on the roster... other then that no problem with the deal.

Exactly. If we're giving them their picks back, we're enabling them to actually tank with a purpose and rebuild likewise. That's going to cost you Trae Young with the usual salary filler on both sides. Giving them our picks as well is raw on our side.

[Seventyniner]

I was gonna say, this seems like a super over pay. If the Spurs really wanted to do this, then I would leave #4 out of it... but even then, I'm not interested for the Spurs (and I'm not a Trae hater by any means. I actually like him as a player - just like all of those ATL picks better).

That's only one net first outgoing plus salary ballast for Trae; ATL 2026 is only a swap. Plus the incoming first is the #1 pick, albeit in a draft without a clear-cut best player.

What are the chances that ATL 2025/2026/2027 net you more than Trae and 2024 #1 overall? I think it's actually rather low. Most years there are 4-5 teams that suck all year and another 3 or so that tank down the stretch. I expect the next two season to have even more teams tanking given the quality at the top of the draft.

If the Hawks have no incentive to tank they should be able to stay out of the bottom 8 teams each year, meaning the Spurs would have at most a 20% chance at a top 4 pick each time. That's about a 50% chance at a top 4 pick once, when the alternative is an All-Star PG and this year's #1 overall.

I'm not saying it's a total no-brainer for the Spurs, though I think the Hawks hang up the phone because getting one net first for Trae is a really bad look.