I'm not so sure he'll decline that option, $26.5M is a lot of money. I don't think he'll get offers higher than $20M a year if he enters free agency. Not many teams that could use him have cap space.
He'd be perfect for a three man PF/C rotation with Wemby and Jeremy. Any combination could play together.
There aren't any great free agent Cs on the markter this summer, Collins might just be the best option even though he's not a traditional C.
I think KD's skillset would be better for Victor to learn from (not anything off the court, though). I would prefer Giannis, but like LeBowen said, it would likely cost too much and the team would have to be gutted and a lot of draft picks sent away. What would the Spurs use to retool with?
I know lol
It was just wishful thinking
If I had a choice, I'd rather have Santi, Herb Jones and money left over than Durant, tbh.
Would you rather have Santi, Herb, Kelvin and Evan or KD?
Evan and Kevin need to get moved in both scenarios is my assumption… but I’d actually be okay with one of them staying (but only one, they can’t play together on a winning team) in a bench scorer role. But to get Santi and/or Herb you have to send one of them out.Would you rather have Santi, Herb, Kelvin and Evan or KD?
To answer your question… hmmm… idk. Probably KD if those are the choices.
I'm banking on the fact that Collins would be more interested in a longer term deal making less than he does per year now than just picking up his option making 26.5 this one time and then just rolling the dice on getting injured or having a bad year and suppressing his value.
I think he might can get around 20 - 22, but he definitely isn't getting 26.5 million a year on his next deal. I think he is a really good fit for the team I want the Spurs to build, but the team I want the Spurs to be doesn't have Jeremy Sochan on it, and the Spurs are definitely going to keep Sochan on the team, and I see Collins as much more of a 4 than a 5, so I think the Spurs chances of actually signing him are exceptionally slim, as not to get in the way of their pet cat.
80/4 would be a fair deal for Collins.
He'd give us a lot of flexibility with the lineups.
36% career 3pt shooter even with that 29% season when he had a ed up finger.
Unlike Jeremy, he'd be fine as a backup big, would enable us to play small lineups and run benches off the floor.
I really wanted him while we were still trying to compete, then we blew it up and he had a down year due to his finger, but he's been very good in Utah.
I actually see keldon having some use on the spurs in the future as he could be a useful bench scorer. At $17.5M for the next couple of years his contract isn’t terrible and he can pair with sochan off the bench and be part of a respectable lineup.
Devin though I just don’t see much of a future, unless he can transform himself into a catch and shoot guy and get back to his defense from a few years ago. But instead of changing him to that player might as well get one off the market.
I would rather have no KD than having KD tbh
Great player, but he would take touches away from young players who are still developing.
I respect that mentality from D-Book, but his prime is definitely going to be wasted away on that team for the foreseeable future. He turns 29 this year -- Really not an ideal age to head into a soft rebuild tbh.
Uh Book, you don't have a no-trade clause. Though he is the player the Suns least want to trade.
I remember when Kawhi said he wanted to play his entire career in San Antonio too.
I have no doubt that Booker's preference is to remain a Sun for the remainder of his career or even that he believes that he will at the moment, but like so many before in a similar predicament, given his age and how bleak their situation is, it's only a matter of time.
If the Mavericks and Suns can make a three team or separate trade to satisfy the apron rules, it wouldn't surprise me if the Mavericks emerge as a stealth contender for Durant.
Foolish as it sounds, I could see Washington, Gafford, Thompson, salary ballast and multiple 1sts/swaps appealing to the Suns.
I respect Booker for wanting to do this, I really do, but the only thing I can think about is Houston getting high picks as I'm not sure how the Suns are going to win games.
Maybe they're going to have to try really hard to trade Durant there for at least one of their picks back.
Assuming the wording of this tweet paraphrasing Shams is correct, and KD had interest in the Wolves and Heat, that is the most interesting nugget of info to me, considering both of those teams reportedly had interest in KD. The Wolves especially since they have historically been willing to get aggressive with trades to get what they want. I can't see the Spurs wanting to pay the price if it's a compe ive bidding war with multiple teams interested.
Evan, Keldon, the better of our 2025 picks (assuming we dont jump into top 4), and a swap somewhere down the line. give them some SRPs. id make them take on Branham too
anything more than that and its thanks but no thanks. love KD the player but timeline is a huge concern.
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Knicks? Welcome home, Mikal Bridges.
Twolves? McDaniels and Randle?
Rockets? I don't think they want KD, Booker is their priority.
Spurs? We went over it many times, I'd do it for Devin+Keldon+lottery protected FRP+a bunch of SRPs. Lowball, but I'm not that interested.
Heat? They kind of don't have any players Suns would want, just Wiggins. Could work if Herro goes to a third team.
they can prioritize whatever they want, but if the suns dont put booker on the table, i dont think houston will just sit around with their s in their handKnicks? Welcome home, Mikal Bridges.
Twolves? McDaniels and Randle?
Rockets? I don't think they want KD, Booker is their priority.
Spurs? We went over it many times, I'd do it for Devin+Keldon+lottery protected FRP+a bunch of SRPs. Lowball, but I'm not that interested.
Heat? They kind of don't have any players Suns would want, just Wiggins. Could work if Herro goes to a third team.
Seconded. Booker said yesterday he wants to retire a Phoenix Sun. I believe him (for now) and therefor think that PHX won't move him (yet). Once the Rockets inevitably get knocked out of the Playoffs because they can't generate enough offense, I think they'll definitely make a run at KD thinking he might be just what they need, even if he's not.
Saw a proposal on nbatradeideas sub-reddit where it was Vassell, Barnes SA25 and ATL27 for KD and the response was overwhelmingly that Phoenix says no.
Granted, every team thinks their players are worth more than they actually are... but if that's PHX's expectations then they can continue to themselves
Edit: saw multiple comments (maybe from the same person) in regard to this proposal, "the picks are good, the players are not". The secret might be out on Vassell.
Yeah, they'll make a move somewhere else, I just don't think they're that high on KD unless they can get him for cheap.
They have '25, '27 and '29 unprotected, Suns can't get more than one of those back for KD. Rockets seem to be ran by competent people these days.
Imo, their biggest need isn't just a #1 scoring option, but a #1 creator. At this stage of his career KD is just an executioner, we see how it's going without a legit point guard in Phoenix.
Rockets need someone who's going to lead that team, then they'll become really dangerous.
If Booker is staying, they have no use for Vassell, there would have to be a third team involved.
And as we talked about the other day, I don't see many teams that would be interested in Vassell.
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