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Nick Van Exel played well in the regular season versus the Mavericks. Duncan sucked against the Mavericks in the regular season.
Those held up how well? And they actually PLAYED for the Spurs unlike every other time you do it.
I said all I have to go by is individual games this year (not splits - otherwise I simply would've said he sucked period), since it's the only post injury performances.
But if we're talking fantasy you can pretend it never happened.
Nick Van Exel played well in the regular season versus the Mavericks. Duncan sucked against the Mavericks in the regular season.
Those held up how well? And they actually PLAYED for the Spurs unlike every other time you do it.
As I said, they're the only evidence.
Your evidence is because you say so.
I'll just add because I say so to mine.
And Duncan's foot.
So, Nazr took less money to play for Detroit? Didn't the Spurs offer him 4 years 28 million?Nazr Mohammed, who started at center during the Spurs’ 2005 championship run, left the team Tuesday after agreeing to a four-year, $25 million contract with Detroit.
Okay - where is that sex meeting?
Devin can be young but he is injured, and that kind of injury will not let him be a player he might be.
We knew that Nazr will not be a spur this season so it happened
They offered him something like that last summer; he turned it down. I don't think they offered it this summer.
Nazr got bit in the ass by that one. Pop must have figured if you're not accepting our offer we're gonna lower your value so you get paid .
How dare you post that.
Damn Nazr is fast. No S&T and the spurs are ed.
No center in the lineup
I wish we could of got Przybella but he wanted to go back to Portland or something I believe so this was the 2nd best center out there unless Wilcox would of signed with us for what we can offer him which isnt a lot. I wish we could of got some more offense but I think i'm happy with this move, I havent seen him play alot but i'm confident he can come in a make some sort of an positive impact. It's gonna be a fun interesting season next year and I cant wait.
Ahh Devin had one good performance against him...Bruce has had quite a few...Dirk figured Bowen out, he'd have figured Devin out too...
Let's be real clear on this once and for all...you cannot guard Dirk with a guy 5 inches shorter than he is...he shoots over them like Jordan and he rebounds like Bill Russell if you do.
Devin, not a solution to anything having to do with Dirk...and neither is Finley.
As for the C...Obviously the Spurs knew they weren't going to go hard after Nazr, and they still traded Rasho...perhaps they know what they are doing here?
I don't think anything that has happened this offseason has been a surprise to the Spurs.
I also doubt that Pop was trying to lower Nazr's value...I seriously hope that wasn't the case. I hope Pop would never put a vendetta ahead of winning a le. Then again...I thought it was pretty stupid that Pop never played Nazr late against the Mavs...it actually makes me feel better to think that Pop was doing that because he was pissed off at Nazr, than it does to think he just was being stupid.
Dunno where to go on that one...honestly, I don't think Pop was deliberately lowering his value.
Spurs will make a trade...either that or they are much higher on Javtokas than they are letting on.
Demise of the Pistons my ass. Ben cant score and your team sucks at scoring, I dont see you getting to the ECFor the Finals anytime soon. even with Ben Wallace.
The Pistons didnt get as weak as a lot of people think. The deal was pretty overrated and the bulls paid way to much for Ben Wallace. Now watch bull fans when your team cant sign Ben Gordan or most of your good offensive players because Wallace has a 60mil contract. Im still a Ben Wallace fan and he will always be remembered as a Piston not a Bull but you guys shot yourself in the foot for paying a guy that much who cant score.
Mohammed might fill void
Pistons give center 4-year, $25 million deal; McDyess and Davis will contend for starting role.
AUBURN HILLS -- The Pistons have taken a step toward restructuring their lineup after Ben Wallace's departure.
Pistons president Joe Dumars confirmed Tuesday an agreement had been reached with eight-year veteran center Nazr Mohammed on a four-year deal worth approximately $25 million.
Also Tuesday, officials confirmed Lindsey Hunter had agreed to a two-year deal worth $4.5 million. Hunter is expected to take a job in the Pistons'front office at the end of that deal.
Those players can't sign their deals until July 12.
Mohammed, whom the Pistons nearly signed in 2001, is 6-foot-10 and will be 29 in September. He averaged 6.2 points and 5.2 rebounds for the Spurs last season, starting 30 games. He also started in three of the eight playoff games in which he appeared. He was the starting center for the Spurs when they beat the Pistons in the 2005 NBA Finals.
During his career -- with stops in Philadelphia, Atlanta, New York and San Antonio -- Mohammed has averaged 7.1 points and 5.7 rebounds.
The Pistons earlier had been in contact with Portland free agent center Joel Przybilla, apparently offering him a five-year, $30 million contract. Przybilla, though, was torn between leaving Portland and responding to offers from Detroit, San Antonio, Cleveland and Sacramento.
Przybilla decided to stay with Portland, getting a five-year, approximately $35 million deal.
There obviously will be a falloff on the defensive end if Mohammed replaces Wallace in the starting lineup.
Wallace, who said Monday he will sign with Chicago, is a four-time defensive player of the year.
Mohammed isn't known as a great shot-blocker, but is a solid low-post defender and rebounder.
Mohammed, however, may be an improvement on the offensive end. He is a strong offensive rebounder and a capable low-post scorer with an adequate mid-range jump shot. He's averaged better than 10 points a game in two of his previous eight seasons.
He ran afoul of Spurs coach Gregg Popovich last season because he had trouble catching and passing the ball in the post.
It's not a lock, however, that Mohammed will be the starting center next season.
Either Antonio McDyess or Dale Davis could also play that role alongside Rasheed Wallace.
"Obviously, losing Ben, we're going to have to make up for certain things that he did for us," Pistons coach Flip Saunders said. "But, at the same time, there are some things we are going to be able to do better."
There is a good chance the Pistons will deploy more small lineups next season, using Rasheed Wallace or McDyess up front with Tayshaun Prince playing more of a hybrid forward role, and using three guards.
The Pistons still have the bi-annual exception ($1.75 million) at their disposal, which they plan to use to acquire a veteran perimeter player -- preferably one who can play multiple positions and break defenses down off the dribble.
Former Pistons guard Chucky Atkins is one candidate, as is Tony Delk, who finished the season with the Pistons last year.
Dumars could explore a trade, using Davis, whose $3.5 million contract expires after the season, and perhaps one or two of the team's first-round draft picks.
First round draft picks will be valuable because, unlike this year's, the 2007 draft is expected to be loaded with prospects.
Mohammed might fill void
Mohammed isn't known as a great shot-blocker, but is a is solid low-post defender and rebounder.
So the Spurs' excuse is that they didn't want to give Mohammed a 5th year...
My question is - now that Big Ben is on a team not really known for defense, will he still be a frontrunner for DPOY?
Without a doubt. Chicago media jocking him plus a significant improvement in the Bulls' D with a drop in the defensive prowess of the Pistons will make him a lock.
how much can the bulls d improve? will adding wallace let them hold teams to under 80 points now?
LOL ya I noticed that too. It looks like we basicaly offered (4yr/$25) him the same thing (I believe I read that SA offered 4yr/$24) ... and he's going to be a backup for us?
My big beef w/ the article is the thought of bringing in Atkins. I like Chucky, and would love to see him back w/ us.
But we already have Chanucey. We just resigned Hunter. We have Acker who we drafted 2 yrs ago. Blalock was drafted this year. And now Atkins?
5 PG's? Acker may turn out to be more of a small SG ... and Chucky could play some SG aswell. But this looks stupid to me. We shouldn't have signed Hunter, and have no need for Chucky. I say let the kids play and develop.
Chicago isn't known for defense? WTF?
They had the lowest opp FG% in the league last year.
two years running i believe.
Sorry, I didn't know that. Since they're in the EC, I didn't keep up with them as much. I know they're a relatively young team, and that usually doesn't equate with playing great defense.They had the lowest opp FG% in the league last year.
Is Nazr really a Piston?
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