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Joe Klein played 15 years but it didnt mean he didnt suck monkey balls. Ill give you that he was a good shot blocker, but as far as talent he was crap
Shawn Bradley was a rotation player and frequently at least a part-time starter in the NBA for what? 11, 12 years?
He was a joke, but he was by no means one of the worst centers ever to play the game. DJ Mbenga would cut his nuts off to have the career that Shawn Bradley had.
Or the ones Oliver Miller and Gheorghe had, for that matter.
Joe Klein played 15 years but it didnt mean he didnt suck monkey balls. Ill give you that he was a good shot blocker, but as far as talent he was crap
He'd cut his nuts off more for an extra six inches of height.
Bradley's inep ude is multiplied by the fact that he was half a foot taller than anybody he faced, and he was still terrible. Take away his height advantage and Bradley wouldn't have been talented enough to be a backup in the CBA.
Bang bang!!
Irrelevant.
There are dozens, hundreds of NBA centers who have never played past their rookie/free agent contracts. I don't care why they didn't play and mediocre guys like Bradley did; the fact remains that he played 20 000 minutes and more than 800 games in the Association and unless you want to establish a much higher cut-off point than I thought, you can't reasonably say he's one of the ten worst centers ever to play in the NBA.
And to be honest, I don't think DJ Mbenga is, either, but he's a of a lot closer to that mark than Bradley ever was.
You forgot Mike Smrek and Greg "Cadillac" Anderson. two of the worst in history IMO.
Not irrevelant when talking about talent, which Bradley had none of
11:Vlade Divac
12:Sabonis
Hmmm, I never new Lanier won ROY, DPOY, MVP, lead the league in scoring, rebounding and blocked shots. Nor was I aware that Malone won a championship w/o Dr. J, McAdoo winning anything before the Lakers, or Ewing winning ..... well, anything, championships OR awards.don't know if this has been posted...
Scoop Jackson's reason for not picking Robinson and going with Walton
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...jackson/070307
Sick if you ask me
I never knew Scoop is this stupid, I should by him a textbook on logic.
Whys everyone keep coming down on Sabonis?
If Sabonis wanted to be ranked higher he shouldn't have ducked the NBA for 5 years.
Sabonis is Bill Walton on steroids. Sabonis was not a great scorer, even before his knees got screwed...he was a great passer, probably the greatest ever, but he played D like a lazier version of Shaq.
don't know if this has been posted...
Scoop Jackson's reason for not picking Robinson and going with Walton
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...jackson/070307
Sick if you ask me
What a bag...he obviously didn't look at the numbers.
Father knew best...and he didn't even have to think about it.
His stated reason for leaving Robinson off the top 10 is because DROB didn't win a ring before Duncan arrived.don't know if this has been posted...
Scoop Jackson's reason for not picking Robinson and going with Walton
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...jackson/070307
Sick if you ask me
If I'm not mistaken, Jabaar wasn't able to get to the finals on his own as well. Didn't he have help from 2 of the best point guards in NBA history?
Shaq has had help from Kobe and Dwade.
Russell was surrounded by All Stars his entire career.
Chamberlain was on 2 of the greatest championship squads of all time, flanked by the likes of HOFers like Hall Greer, Elgin Baylor and Gail Goodrich.
Hakeem had Clyde for one le.
Moses had Doctor J, as already mentioned.
Of course we all know why this columnist left the Admiral off the list: he's perceived in some very stupid circles as not being black enough.
How could anyone possibly leave D-Rob off a top ten list in favor of over-rated stiffs like Patrick Ewing?
Oh, I forgot, Patrick went to Georgetown, was coached by John Thompson, and played in NY.
F'n jackass.
He didnt skip it, I though he was locked in a Scola contract like situation
And yet he made a pretty solid career out of what he did have, which is size and the ability to block shots. You can't say anyone who was as long-lived in the NBA as Bradley was one of the worst players, or even worst centers. How many teams would kill to have that kind of presence in the middle in these center-starved days, even if he was anemic on the offensive side?
Not for the entire time...he stayed over there of his own voilition for a number of years...I think it was after he won a 4th or 5th le he said all he left to do was come to the NBA...
At one point he couldn't play over here because he was from the Soviet Union...and the Soviets wouldn't let him. But after it broke up he could have come over here and elected not too.
He also made David Robinson his , so perhaps going after an easier target like Ewing would be in order.
Bill Simmons also gave his reasons for abstaining from the voting process in his latest article. He also claims that, in his prime, nobody in history was better than Walton.don't know if this has been posted...
Scoop Jackson's reason for not picking Robinson and going with Walton
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...jackson/070307
Sick if you ask me
Well, Sabonis did it all ; scoring, passing, blocking, rebounding, when younger and healthier, the guy could run and dunk like D-Rob !!! combine that with his talents
Regarding his situation in Europe, some said it was his contract, some said it was his coach and some said it was political...
Getting outscored and outrebounded = making someone his ?
He could never run like Drob...he was 7'3 300lbs and he when he ran the earth rumbpled...
David Robinson was probably the fastest player in the NBA early in his career.
combine that with his talents
Regarding his situation in Europe, some said it was his contract, some said it was his coach and some said it was political...
Try not to use Youtube clips as a subs ute for knowledge...
Drob lead the NBA in slam dunks 3 years in a row...you'll be lucky if you can find more than one or two dunks on youtube by him.
Noone noticed this from the article:don't know if this has been posted...
Scoop Jackson's reason for not picking Robinson and going with Walton
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...jackson/070307
Sick if you ask me
Shocked he didn't mention the asterisk, as it seems he was just looking for a reason to discount Robinson. I agree with the poster above that mentioned it is moronic to discount David because he had the help of another star. How many other players on that list were able to get a ring without the help of another star? Someone needs to e-mail him and alert him to his stupidity.David Robinson!?!" I think I exasperated back. David Robinson never got to the NBA Finals until Tim Duncan got there and even when he did get that first ring he did it against the Knicks when Patrick wasn't playing.
(I'm putting one of these smilies only cause my wife wanted me too...)
So, apparently u haven't seen the full video....
And don't get me started on knowledge, I lived in Europe and watched games of Euroleague featuring Sabonis ("recent" or reruns of his 80's games) ; he was much lighter back then
Damn, Skinny Sabonis could have taken D-Rob anytime. Well, he did :
Brian Meehan, a columnist for The Oregonian, followed Sabonis' career over the course of decades. Recalling the 1988 Olympics, when Sabonis' Soviet team beat a United States team with the likes of David Robinson, Meehan notes one play when a healthy Sabonis reacted to a teammate's missed shot: Sabonis slashed towards the rim, jumped over Robinson, and slammed the ball home. Meehan is of the opinion that it was the play of Arvydas in the '88 Olympics that influenced Team USA to use professional players in the Olympics, thus the "Dream Teams" of 1992 and 1996. Meehan ranks Sabonis as the 6th best all-time center behind, in no particular order, Hakeem Olajuwon, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Shaquille O'Neal, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
U don't know what u're talking about, so please don't say anything.....
Last edited by lefty; 03-08-2007 at 02:16 AM.
It's a highlight clip...
I can show you one where James White looks like the next Jordan...
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