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    Not sure if it has been mentioned, but for building serious muscular strength I found the X-rep method combined with Positions of Flexion fairly effectively (back when building strength and musclular mass was a goal of mine, it no longer is).

    After any appropriate warm up, its a 9-6-8 rep routine, with "X-reps" at the end of either your second or third set. Here is some X-rep stuff: http://bodybuilding.home.insightbb.c...iccontraction/

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    I saw that the other day and couldn't stop laughing.

    There's no way I'd be able to keep a straight face if I had to deal with a coworker when there was that much swiveling involved.
    Seriously! How the could type whilst swiveling? The one chick seemed a tad 'happy'. Maybe it has some 'other' benefits as well?

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    Seriously! How the could type whilst swiveling? The one chick seemed a tad 'happy'. Maybe it has some 'other' benefits as well?
    That would make it even harder to type.

    And can you imagine being on the other end of the phone while someone's using their Hawaii chair? I don't need my business calls to include panting.

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    There are a bunch of good programs that will get results, but as a rule of thumb, if you're benching more than you're squating, somethings not right with your program. The KISS principle works great for lifting. IMO, things like bicep curls or skullcrushers are really unnecessary for the beginning lifter, your biceps and triceps will be just fine if you're doing the proper compound lifts. Try lifting three times a week (Mon-Wed-Fri). Alternate each workout day between two different workouts. Workout A do Squats, Power Cleans, and Bench. Workout B do Squats, Deadlifts, and Standing Overhead Press. Rinse and repeat, and reap the results (how's that for alliteration).
    Good beginner workout. but you can't forget about pull-ups!!!

    Also, Someone brought up the "less is more" concept. Couldn't agree more.

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    You really have to find what works for you.

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    So 5x5 would be good for both upper body and lower body workouts?

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    So 5x5 would be good for both upper body and lower body workouts?
    I stick to 5x5 when it comes to the larger muscles and compound excercises. Squats, deads, chest press, pull-ups, shoulder press. When it comes to isolation movements(which I will only add towrds the end of my workout) and smaller muscles i'll do higher reps(3x8-10). Calves, forearms, neck, biceps, triceps.(bicep curls, calf ext., skull crushers, etc...)

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    I stick to 5x5 when it comes to the larger muscles and compound excercises. Squats, deads, chest press, pull-ups, shoulder press. When it comes to isolation movements(which I will only add towrds the end of my workout) and smaller muscles i'll do higher reps(3x8-10). Calves, forearms, neck, biceps, triceps.(bicep curls, calf ext., skull crushers, etc...)
    Ah ok that makes sense. Good advice thanks.
    Last edited by THE SIXTH MAN; 01-29-2008 at 08:15 PM.

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    Oh wow well I took some NO2 (Nitric Oxide), should be called Nitrogen Dioxide, but whatever. Damn..........this works wonders, I max out at 225 like 2 reps on bench.........I pulled that down like 5 times and kept on going and I had to stop because I started to laugh. This is crazy. My muscles are still bulging and it's been like 20 minutes.

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    I'll be doing this run this year, the Beach to Bay Marathon relay in Corpus. (I'm going to lobby for the JFK Bridge leg)


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    I did that the year before last. The weather sucked for it, but it was still a pretty fun day.

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    When I lift I do everything all the same day, but I don't do legs most of the time so it's just upper body. Chest, biceps,triceps,back,shoulders,forearm

    I do that every other day.


    My question is if you think that's over-doing it, am I wasting my time going so often?

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    Good beginner workout. but you can't forget about pull-ups!!!

    Also, Someone brought up the "less is more" concept. Couldn't agree more.
    Tru dat. I forgot, Workout A do pullups (weighted if necessary) and Workout B do dips. Probably only 2x8 though, 5x5 would be overdoing it. I'd also mix in a couple sets of weighted sit ups and weighted hypers. The hypers, pull ups, sit ups, and dips are more of complimentary exercises so do whatever you see fit.

    When I lift I do everything all the same day, but I don't do legs most of the time so it's just upper body. Chest, biceps,triceps,back,shoulders,forearm

    I do that every other day.


    My question is if you think that's over-doing it, am I wasting my time going so often?
    I'd say that's overdoing it, and will probably lead to plateauing. While I wouldn't recommend doing any triceps or biceps specific workout, if you really want to I'd only do it only once a week.

    Also, you can't just concentrate on upper body. I don't know what your goals are, but mixing in some good ATG (ass to the grass) squats and deadlifts is really going to improve your overall strength, and you're going to see tremendous gains in size. There's a reason the squat is called the "king of all exercise". Cleans are also very helpful especially in sports, but if you don't have good form, just stick to doing heavy barbell rows.

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    Well I used to do squats, dead lifts, power cleans but I'm done football and I hate doing them so that's why I don't. I try to change my workout to avoid plateauing...I'll find out ina few months if I can't avoid plateauing. I've defintely plateaued on my tri's and bi's, but I do them anyway to keep them strong, but I've found ways to keep strengthening my chest and shoulders.

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    What does it mean to plateau?

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    When I lift I do everything all the same day, but I don't do legs most of the time so it's just upper body. Chest, biceps,triceps,back,shoulders,forearm

    I do that every other day.


    My question is if you think that's over-doing it, am I wasting my time going so often?
    You have to hit the legs. A MUST. You will grow upper body as well when you do legs. Is sounds weird but the body will grow faster as a whole as opposed to just upper body alone. OMD already covered this, but squats are really the best excecise you can do.

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    I work upper body (all of it, like alvarez) like 2-3 times a week

    I work lower body (all of it) like 2 times a week

    I never really got a routine where I work back/tris/bis one upper body day, then chest,shoulders,etc. the next upper body day. Should I start doing this?

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    What does it mean to plateau?
    Whether its losing fat or gaining muscle a body will stop producing results. This can happen for a number of reasons. Overtraining and no change in workout routine are the most likely usually. Thats why it's good to change your workout about every 6 weeks. "shocking" the muscles is important.

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    You have to hit the legs. A MUST. You will grow upper body as well when you do legs. Is sounds weird but the body will grow faster as a whole as opposed to just upper body alone. OMD already covered this, but squats are really the best excecise you can do.
    When done properly, squats work 80-90% of the muscles in your body. Even if you're going for just upper body gains, by working all of the muscles in your body, it helps it to digest and to distribute protein, which is going to improve your upper body too. That's why you can do squats 3x a week, whereas you really only should be doing bench once.

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    I work upper body (all of it, like alvarez) like 2-3 times a week

    I work lower body (all of it) like 2 times a week

    I never really got a routine where I work back/tris/bis one upper body day, then chest,shoulders,etc. the next upper body day. Should I start doing this?
    Everybody has there own way of getting results. Some do upper one day and lower another. Whilr others will do push/pull routine. Or as you mentioned, by secluded muscles. I prefer full body workouts with the occasional upper and lower seperated routine. The important thing is that you always go beyond your last workout. That is the only way muscles grow. ex.. If you benched 225 x 6 the last time, try adding an extra rep or more weight on your next workout. Maybe 225x8 or 245 x 5. Just increase the intensity. A good idea is to take a notepad with you to write down everything you are doing.(reps, max, even rest time between reps). Don't just hit the gym and do whatever comes to mind. Follow a routine so that your muscles can grow for a few weeks on a certain excercise then switch it up.

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    appreciate it

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    Oh wow well I took some NO2 (Nitric Oxide), should be called Nitrogen Dioxide, but whatever. Damn..........this works wonders, I max out at 225 like 2 reps on bench.........I pulled that down like 5 times and kept on going and I had to stop because I started to laugh. This is crazy. My muscles are still bulging and it's been like 20 minutes.
    No works for me.


    The best thing to do is expeirment. You do bic,tri on same sessin with one set of bi and one of tri. Same with chest and back try that and you will get a nice pump.

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    Whenever I hit a peak or plateau in my workouts I jump online and find some gimmicky workout and hit it hard for about a week, that usually gets me over the hump. Most recently, I attempted "German Volume Training". That was pretty ing insane. I can put up 380 - 400 on bench on any given day, but his workout forced me to drop way, way down in weight. It's 10 sets of 10, with 90 second rest in between. It doesn't sound like much, but I'll tell you what, once you hit that seventh set or so, you're ed if you started with too much weight.

    Also, my calves have always been a problem area for me so I tried something new. Take off your shoes and get on a step while using something to balance. Then do two legged raises without any weight. The catch is, you have to do two sets of 500.

    I couldn't ing walk for three days after this, it was fantastic.

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    I still think the most important thing in weight training or any excercise for that matter is that you have to keep it fun, interesting, and different. Once sports wave goodbye to you, this becomes a hobby, and the only way to enjoy it is to keep it interesting. If you do the same thing, day in and day out, it becomes work.

    I'm not in it to win any contests, play better at any sport, or pick up chicks anymore, so I do it for fun. I think if you do that, plus measure your results (what's measured improves) you'll see results without thinking about it too much.

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    The catch is, you have to do two sets of 500.
    500? That's a lot of ing counting.

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