Doctor shot in stone oak

[tlongII]

Remember in high school when two teams' fans would shout out across a football field "We've got spirit, yes we do, we've got spirit...how 'bout you?!!"

And they'd go back and forth, and back and forth, and back and forth, and then it would melt down to "WE'VE GOT MORE....WE'VE GOT MORE...WE'VE GOT MORE!!"

And this would go on for what seemed like an eternity until it would finally dwindle down to just a select few people cheering.

And when one teams' fans would finally stop, the smattering few people left who actually cared would cheer and point and laugh while the other 98.5% of the people could really care less.

Personally I would start drinking heavily on about the first "spirit"...and I was on the field playing.










This is kinda like that.








I've been drinking since this thread started.

Yep...

[Richard Cranium]

We can carry on if you like I really don't care.

Sure you do.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

It wasn't a hypothetic associated with what you're saying. It was an example to showcase that damage can happen in more ways than just a gun.

You don't know where the knife, shank or two finger eye ball jab is hiding.

Anyways I'm bored with this thread. What should we argue about next?

Whatever.

You're still arguing from the assumtion that there are extenuating cir stances - guy had a thing for a girl, and he came with the intent to kill her.

It is unlikely that any of the two people arguing would have a gun if it was just a random argument or scuffle that took place. I'd say it is even more unlikely when it is in relatively wealthy part of town.

What happened was an abberation, imo. How often do you hear of this happening? Never.

[Richard Cranium]

Whatever.

You're still arguing from the assumtion that there are extenuating cir stances - guy had a thing for a girl, and he came with the intent to kill her.

It is unlikely that any of the two people arguing would have a gun if it was just a random argument or scuffle that took place. I'd say it is even more unlikely when it is in relatively wealthy part of town.

What happened was an abberation, imo. How often do you hear of this happening? Never.

Just 'cause you don't hear about it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Being wealthy don't matter to the grim reaper.

[family]

I mean no harm here. Everyone has the right of free speech. However, Dr. Abbott's family is large. Some of the remarks posted here are harsh and painful to read. Many family members are searching the internet for closure and details about the man that took their sibling's life. The crime committed last Friday in Stone Oak is rare. Dr. Abbott dedicated her life to helping others. Facts are worthwhile, however judging what happened with only vague details is not helpful...only passing the time.

[Richard Cranium]

I mean no harm here. Everyone has the right of free speech. However, Dr. Abbott's family is large. Some of the remarks posted here are harsh and painful to read. Many family members are searching the internet for closure and details about the man that took their sibling's life. The crime committed last Friday in Stone Oak is rare. Dr. Abbott dedicated her life to helping others. Facts are worthwhile, however judging what happened with only vague details is not helpful...only passing the time.

And passing the time is what most do on the internet. Not meaning no harm mind you.

[tlongII]

I mean no harm here. Everyone has the right of free speech. However, Dr. Abbott's family is large. Some of the remarks posted here are harsh and painful to read. Many family members are searching the internet for closure and details about the man that took their sibling's life. The crime committed last Friday in Stone Oak is rare. Dr. Abbott dedicated her life to helping others. Facts are worthwhile, however judging what happened with only vague details is not helpful...only passing the time.

My condolences.

[BacktoBasics]

:eject:

[Los Spurs]

DAMN!!!!!! 12 pages later and B2B and TlongII are still at it

[Kori Ellis]

I mean no harm here. Everyone has the right of free speech. However, Dr. Abbott's family is large. Some of the remarks posted here are harsh and painful to read. Many family members are searching the internet for closure and details about the man that took their sibling's life. The crime committed last Friday in Stone Oak is rare. Dr. Abbott dedicated her life to helping others. Facts are worthwhile, however judging what happened with only vague details is not helpful...only passing the time.

Condolences to her family and friends.

[lil'mo]

:eject:

[smeagol]

No matter how you dress it up, running away from the sort of situations stated in this thread (a man hitting a woman, a man hitting a child, etc) is not the right thing to do. It is the selfish thing to do.

IMO, very few people can say without a shred of doubt, how they would react in such a situation (I include myself in this category of people), but to say that you have to walk away from these situations is coward and selfish. There is no way around it.

[King]

I mean no harm here. Everyone has the right of free speech. However, Dr. Abbott's family is large. Some of the remarks posted here are harsh and painful to read. Many family members are searching the internet for closure and details about the man that took their sibling's life. The crime committed last Friday in Stone Oak is rare. Dr. Abbott dedicated her life to helping others. Facts are worthwhile, however judging what happened with only vague details is not helpful...only passing the time.

Condolences to you and yours. I had the pleasure of knowing Dr. Abbott, although not as well as many, and she was an amazing woman. That's indicative of how many people showed up at her funeral. I don't want you to take the comments in this thread as anything about her. It has completely gone away from anything really even having to do with the case and turned into a discussion on a generic hypothetical situation.

That said, please know you have our condolences - the world, and especially San Antonio, lost a great woman.

[peewee's lovechild]

If everyone in the United States took your point of view there would be no cops, no firemen, no soldiers.

If everyone said "I'm not going to intervene because my familly is the #1 priority", we'd let whatever threatens us w/ death blow right by without giving a .

This proves how much of an idiot you are.

Cops, firemen, and soldiers . . . they all sign up for that job.

They know the risks. They get paid for it.

I'm not volunteering myslef to possibly get killed by intervening in someone else's .

You're just a stupid .

[peewee's lovechild]

They're making the neccessary sacrifices (familly) to help others. bottom line.

the only diff is they are willing to sacrifice and others are not.

They GET PAID to do it, you idiot.

[peewee's lovechild]

My personal opinion is that it's really easy to say you'd get involved and go in guns-a-blazin' when you're in the comfort of your own house. It's also my personal opinion that most of the people who say that have never been in a situation that called for it - regardless of whatever heroic story they're making up.

Human nature is to not get involved. It's called the Kitty Genovese Syndrome.

I don't think anyone in here is saying they wouldn't do ANYthing. I think most people would call 911. I have bigger things to worry about, and that's me and mine. There's a reason that domestic disturbances are the most volatile calls police get. I'm sorry, though, I'm not marching up and getting right in the middle of it. And chances are, neither are you, so save the BS machismo chivalrous intervention story.

I agree with you, King.

[mrsmaalox]

This proves how much of an idiot you are.

Cops, firemen, and soldiers . . . they all sign up for that job.

They know the risks. They get paid for it.

I'm not volunteering myslef to possibly get killed by intervening in someone else's .

You're just a stupid .

You forgot to add that they are majorly trained, and thus extremely skilled at handling these kind of situations. Not really a job for your average Joe.

[peewee's lovechild]

You forgot to add that they are majorly trained, and thus extremely skilled at handling these kind of situations. Not really a job for your average Joe.

Our resident Rambo doesn't seem to think that should factor in.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

This proves how much of an idiot you are.

Cops, firemen, and soldiers . . . they all sign up for that job.

They know the risks. They get paid for it.

I'm not volunteering myslef to possibly get killed by intervening in someone else's .

You're just a stupid .

Dude, I said if everyone took his point of view (that you'd need a damn big reward to do what firemen, police, soldiers do) then we'd have no public servents and we'd be in deep as society.

What's so difficult to understand?

[peewee's lovechild]

Dude, I said if everyone took his point of view (that you'd need a damn big reward to do what firemen, police, soldiers do) then we'd have no public servents and we'd be in deep as society.

What's so difficult to understand?

His point of view is that he has no training whatsoever.
He's not going to get involved because he'll likely get killed because he doesn't know the first thing about fighting someone with a weapon.


Firemen, police, soldiers . . . they all get trained and PAID.

By the way, are you a fireman? A policeman? A soldier?

Because, if you're neither of these, and you're as brave as you say you are . . . well then, you're just talking a lot of .

[Ronaldo McDonald]

They GET PAID to do it, you idiot.

But they are still sacrificing are they not? They are sacrificing never being a able to there familly again when they put on their uniform. It's something most people would not to for what they get paid.

[peewee's lovechild]

But they are still sacrificing are they not? They are sacrificing never being a able to there familly again when they put on their uniform. It's something most people would not to for what they get paid.

They made a consicous decision.

They know the game.

And, if they are happy with it, so be it.

But, I'm not going to put my life on the line, and my family's future well being, for someone that I have absolutely no connections with. I'll just call 9-11.

That's what the cops are for.

However, if it's my family that's being threatened, you bet your ass that I'm going to defend them to my last breath.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

For example, whenever you get into a car and go on the highway there a chance you could die. You risk never being a able to see your familly just to go to your job, or a movie, or wherever, but you make the neccessary sacrfices to go.

My grandmother wouldn't drive, not because she didn't know how, but because she was scared/paranoid she would crash and never be able to see her familly again.

It's the same thing. The potential of death is everywhere, and some people are able to make sacrifices for what in realitythey think is a small reward compared to their familly.

At some point we're all putting money before our familly/life.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

They made a consicous decision.

They know the game.

And, if they are happy with it, so be it.

But, I'm not going to put my life on the line, and my family's future well being, for someone that I have absolutely no connections with. I'll just call 9-11.

That's what the cops are for.

However, if it's my family that's being threatened, you bet your ass that I'm going to defend them to my last breath.

Exactly, that's what they're for. And are they not putting your safety and your well being in front of their own/familly?

The reality is YOU become the priortiy, and they become secondary.

If no one did this we'd have no public servents, which is something you said I was stupid for saying.

[peewee's lovechild]

For example, whenever you get into a car and go on the highway there a chance you could die. You risk never being a able to see your familly just to go to your job, or a movie, or wherever, but you make the neccessary sacrfices to go.

My grandmother wouldn't drive, not because she didn't know how, but because she was scared/paranoid she would crash and never be able to see her familly again.

It's the same thing. The potential of death is everywhere, and some people are able to make sacrifices for what in realitythey think is a small reward compared to their familly.

At some point we're all putting money before our familly/life.

Dude.
Seriously?

This is your argument?

Damn, I don't even have to counter this.