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    Fox-Wesley
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    Jabari could work too instead of Dillon Brooks

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    I don’t think Vassell for Jabari Smith would match salaries though!

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    I see no way rivals like Spurs and Rocket are going to try to help each other out to try and win Championships

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    If a trade made sense they would do it. It’s the only real team I see that picks ahead of the Spurs 14th pick that would want Vassell

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    Appreciate the thoughts Chinook, though I personally hate that roster construction. I have no problems with Keldon carrying on as a bench player, but IMO Vassell is not a 3, Aldama is not a 5 (and certainly has earned more than being a backup 5 to Wemby), and you're relegating the reigning ROTY to a bench player in favor of an unproven Knueppel. Who knows how it would actually all fit together, but this looks like a lineup to me that gets abused on the perimeter but has fairly decent interior defense... of course I could be completely wrong.

    If you made almost of those exact moves, I'd actually situate it to more like:

    Fox, Clayton, Wesley
    Castle, Vassell, Knueppel
    Aldama, Johnson, Champagnie
    Smith, Barnes, Ingram
    Wembanyama, TBD, Kalkbrenner

    My disdain of Vassell is well do ented, but I'd try to move off him and see if I can't bring back a useful backup big, and elevate Knueppel up the depth chart. Vassell and Keldon are completely incompatible - so either one would have to go with the other taking the reigns as 6th man/primary bench scorer. Aldama and Smith give me lots of length to go with shooting at the wings. Both Santi and Jabari grade out very high in Krishna Narsu's defensive versatility rating over on bballindex (79th percentile for Santi, 97th percentile for Jabari). When perimeter speed gets a little too much, you can switch out Vassell (if you keep him) or Champ to try and keep up a little better. While I just said Santi isn't a 5, he could fill in (along with Jabari) in small ball lineups at the 5.

    So that roster has some potential, I just wouldn't deploy them the way you have here.

    Santi has long been high on my list of targets... I'm hoping MEM decides to completely blow it up and we can make a run at him.
    Ideally, the Spurs shouldn't have all of Johnson, Vassell and Barnes next year. That's just a lot of salary tied up in bench players. I'm not a person who believes Castle should be given special treatment if the Spurs are serious about trying to win next year. If he beats out Knueppel, great. But in terms of actually helping on the court, it wouldn't be hard for Kon to come in and do more right away than Castle did. A compe ive team doesn't need someone to use a lot of possessions inefficiently and foul a lot having a featured role. That doesn't mean Vassell with his flaws should automatically get the spot either. It's a question of if it's easier to get Vassell to adjust his mentality to be more of a role-player going forward or to get Castle to shoot well and defend better. There are pluses and minuses on both sides of that discussion.

    As far as who's a "SF" or not, I'm don't think the Spurs should worry about getting a big SF at all. They don't need both of their forwards to have size. They need to have two wings who can shoot and defend -- and that's in addition to having a PF like Smith. I don't have a ton of interest in Aldama playing SF and believe he's far more experienced and effective as a center. The little data we have suggests that C is a better position for him than SF anyway. His potential versatility is nice, though, because it means the Spurs can play him with Wemby for stretches, which is what you want in a backup center anyway. Ideally, the Spurs should want to have guys who are too good to be backups as their backups, especially when their starters are still developing. I don't consider that a weakness.

    Ultimately, I see Fox/Castle/Forward as basically a non-starter for a perimeter unit. It's miserable spacing and poor mobility for very little upside. I can accept Fox/SG/Castle if the SG and PF are both versatile shooter AND Castle improves a lot over the summer. If Castle struggles to play SF at 6-7, it is a bigger mark against his upside in my mind than a call for the team to start him at SG. Guys like Green and Manu played the position a ton despite being smaller than Steph.

    But of course, to each their own. This is only the first off-season scenario.

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    I don’t think Vassell for Jabari Smith would match salaries though!
    I've seen some talk about Smith for Durant.

    Doubt they would have any interest in trading Smith for Vassell.

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    I've seen some talk about Smith for Durant.

    Doubt they would have any interest in trading Smith for Vassell.
    Yeah. My idea was more like Smith goes out for Booker or Durant and then the Spurs trade with the Suns for Smith. I think Smith is good ballast for a star deal, but given his lack of a breakout season and his expiring status, I don't think he'd be a centerpiece that couldn't be had by a third team.

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    nice to have Chinook back tbh

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    But your opinion isn't reality, in every mock draft I've seen, he's predicted to go top 15.
    where do you look?
    Mann and Chau for the Ringer don't have him go 1st round.
    Wasserman has him #27.
    Givoney and Woo have him #30
    Kevin O'Connor has him #30
    Thulin has him #27
    just to name some. is that enough realty for you?

    yes, I know that some guys have him in the lottery, like Bryce Simon (#11), and I don't agree.
    (didn't see a single mock that has him as high as #8 though)

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    I like the idea of Castle at the SF. I’m not sure why there resistance to that idea other than the players statement from last year that he sees himself as a PG. He’s got the physical profile.

    And as you say, it would give more options to address the SG via draft.

    Fox
    Dev (until supplanted by draftee)
    Castle
    Naz
    Wemby
    He’s a physical mismatch in the paint for guards. Not so much small forwards.

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    where do you look?
    Mann and Chau for the Ringer don't have him go 1st round.
    Wasserman has him #27.
    Givoney and Woo have him #30
    Kevin O'Connor has him #30
    Thulin has him #27
    just to name some. is that enough realty for you?

    yes, I know that some guys have him in the lottery, like Bryce Simon (#11), and I don't agree.
    (didn't see a single mock that has him as high as #8 though)
    https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/






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    • Cooper Flagg - franchise potential
    • Derik Queen - all-star potential
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    • Ace Bailey- all-star potential
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    • Asa Newell- starter potential
    • Kon Knueppel- starter potential
    • Rasheer Fleming - starter potential
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    • Nique Clifford - starter potential
    • Nolan Traore- starter potential
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    Board with ceiling potentials


    Final Board until Measurables/Athletic testing or until I get more film on international guys


    I watch a lot of college basketball so I have a better feel for those guys. I went back and watched the guys I was unsure about again. I’ve looked at all the analytics. Now I’ve watched at least some of every international prospect.


    1st time I’ve ever put a board together so we will see how good or bad it turns out lol
    You mean to say we’re picking 8th in a 7-player draft?

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    He’s a physical mismatch in the paint for guards. Not so much small forwards.
    You nailed it! Castle needs to start.

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    Scottspurs is so high on Queen. I more and more agree.

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    He’s a physical mismatch in the paint for guards. Not so much small forwards.
    I don't think it matters if the forward beside him is a stiff. They could just cross match on defense.

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    Scottspurs is so high on Queen. I more and more agree.
    I don't see the value on an undersized offensive minded center that can't shoot. Much less for us, tbh.

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    I know the Spurs have no interest in players that can shoot the ball but i really think they should change it up this year and get someone who has the ability to shoot.

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    I don't think it matters if the forward beside him is a stiff. They could just cross match on defense.
    Let me be a little more clear. He bullies opposing team guard defenders in the paint. He won’t be able to do that with forwards defending him, or at least not as much. I don’t mind him sliding up a position or two from time to time, but if you move him full time to the 3 spot,you’re surrendering his best offensive moves.

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    He’s a physical mismatch in the paint for guards. Not so much small forwards.
    Exstatic, You posted at 4 am. Got up so early? or you're outside of the US?

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    I don't see the value on an undersized offensive minded center that can't shoot. Much less for us, tbh.
    i think they're banking on wemby's perimeter skills and shooting developing to the point that offensively he'd be the 4. the problem is, vic is clearly a 5 defensively and asking queen to defend on the perimeter is likely worse than asking him to anchor. i dont see the fit tbh

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    i think they're banking on wemby's perimeter skills and shooting developing to the point that offensively he'd be the 4. the problem is, vic is clearly a 5 defensively and asking queen to defend on the perimeter is likely worse than asking him to anchor. i dont see the fit tbh
    Yes. Queen will be bad for Spurs. But I won't be surprised if another team pick him at #2.

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    Queen grades out as the best perimeter defending big in this class. He has quick nimble feet. Rare footwork. His struggles come with conditioning. He may have some untapped athleticism as he continues to lose weight. An NBA strength and conditioning program will work wonders. If he buys in. Dude seems like someone that wants to put the work in but the point remains Queen is a much better perimeter defender than he is a rim protector.


    The bigger question for me is will his 3-pt shot get better and where would he fit on the Spurs since the ball will be dominated by Fox, Wemby and Castle.

    I’m willing to take the gamble on his potential because there are no guarantees that the Spurs will be picking this high again. Not until 2030-31 with the swaps. Trae Young has expressed his desire to stay with the Hawks so that pick swap next year and the 2027 pick will be 12-20 range. This may be your last top 10 pick for half a decade.

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    Same goes for Jakucionis, Tre Johnson, Ace Bailey, Edgecombe, Harper and obviously Flagg. Those are the 7 I want the Spurs to pick if one should fall to 8. If not I’m fine with best fit.

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    yeah i think on pure talent you'd have to consider Queen as the BPA at 8 or 9. i just dont see him falling that far, and i dont see him as worthy if we jump into top 4

    the reason im not bullish on Queen's perimter defense is that i dont care how well he defends centers in the perimeter. if he is playing next to wemby, he's going to defend NBA forwards, and not every team plays some burly 4

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