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The court wasn’t told it was politically funded. You just admitted that and then omitted that when forming your answer.
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/02/tr...mocratic-memo/n many instances, the Republican and Democratic memos present the same set of facts. But the Republican and Democratic members present or interpret these facts differently.
Both memos, for example, agree that the “Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016,” as the GOP memo says. But that means, as the Democratic memo notes, that the FBI investigation started “more than seven weeks” before the FBI received Steele’s intelligence reporting in mid-September.
Both memos agree that the government did not disclose the names of the parties — the Clinton campaign and the DNC — that paid for Steele’s information. But the Democratic memo quotes extensively from the initial FISA application to show the court was aware that Steele’s information was paid political opposition research and likely to be used against Trump’s campaign.
The memos also agree that the FBI “sought and received a FISA probable cause order … authorizing electronic surveillance on Carter Page” on Oct. 21, 2016, as the Republican memo says. And they agree that there were three subsequent renewals of the initial surveillance request and “each renewal requires a separate finding of probable cause,” as the GOP memo says.
But the Republican memo accuses the FBI and DOJ of omitting “material and relevant information” that was “potentially favorable” to Page on all four occasions. The FBI disagrees with that assessment, accusing the Republican memo of distorting the facts.
In a statement issued two days before the Republican memo was released, the FBI said: “As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”
The common set of facts contained in both reports leads the president to claim that the Democratic memo “really verifies the Nunes memo.” But it doesn’t. The memos represent a fundamental disagreement about the U.S. government’s methods and motives as it investigates Russia’s attempts to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential campaign and whether anyone associated with the Trump campaign was involved in those efforts.
The court wasn’t told it was politically funded. You just admitted that and then omitted that when forming your answer.
arguing in circles
we addressed this months ago... at LENGHTS. theres a whole discussion in this page and the surrounding ones
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...272157&page=22
le I authorizes surveillance where...
(B)there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party;
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1802
so no, you cant be surveilling the trump campaign under le I
i never denied it.
the court wasn't told it was politically funded. agreed. so no need to keep crawling back to this point.
what is the significance of being told it was politically funded? the stronger possibility of bias. do you agree that this would be why is significant? or are there other reasons? this is your chance to explain your reasoning, TSA.
He wasn't fired for bad intelligence.
He was fired, for leaking, which doesn't really affect the quality of his work previous. How very dishonest of you for suggesting otherwise.
LOL oligarch's lawsuits. It takes a true sophist to lean on that. Brah-vo.
Politically funded. Not politically motivated.
Politically funded by the opposition party makes it severely biased. So biased it should have have thrown out immediately. If the FBI could not get a warrant on their own without Clinton paid for opposition research they never should have tried.
He lied to the FBI and was terminated for it. He is not credible.
You should read Steele’s testimony in the lawsuits he’s fighting. He’s backtracking like crazy and calling his own sources unreliable.
political oppo research spending that is motivation-free?
holy ing , you rightwingnutjobs are ing stupid.
but being told that the information was gathered with the intent of discrediting the trump campaign doesn't alert the judge to that degree of bias? lol
we addressed this months ago... at LENGHTS. theres a whole discussion in this page and the surrounding ones
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...272157&page=22
le I authorizes surveillance where...
(B)there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party;
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1802
so no, you cant be surveilling the trump campaign under le I
No, it doesn’t. And that is precisely why the court was not informed.
No, I need to see evidence they didn't do it by the book to believe they didn't do it by the book.You mean like trying to say all the redacted portions of the FISA application you can’t see somehow supports your theory the FBI did it by the book? That kind of lack of evidence as evidence?
You have failed to provide any.
https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-new...license-to-hop
we addressed this months ago... at LENGHTS. theres a whole discussion in this page and the surrounding ones
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...272157&page=22
le I authorizes surveillance where...
(B)there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party;
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1802
so no, you cant be surveilling the trump campaign under le I
I need to see evidence they did it by the book to believe they did it by the book.
You have failed to provide any.
Redactions are fun.
luckily you tried arguing this crap months ago so i already have answers for them
Yes. You have no evidence the campaign was spied upon.
Actually all the existing evidence shows they did it by the book.
You kicked the can just like I said you would.
Again.
Kushner Dodges Subpoena, Judge Says Stop Playing “Game”. Game’s Over.
According to Politico a court filing on July 17 claims that
Kushner has avoided the service of a subpoena at least six times since June.
The complaint is the most recent development in the Democratic National Committee’s lawsuit claiming Trump’s presidential campaign conspired with Russia in 2016 at the expense of Hillary Clinton.
The court filing said court do ents were
sent three times to Kushner’s Manhattan apartment but were refused,
they were sent to Kushner’s Washington home, whereSecret Service agents told the process server to “You’re going to need to find another way to serve that” and
then DNC lawyers tried to send the court do ents by certified mail. They were returned to sender.
This is about as mature as closing your eyes, plugging your ears and then saying it doesn’t exist.
After the story broke, and a New York federal judge said formal delivery of a lawsuit isn’t a “game”.
This finally provoked Kushner’s lawyer, Abbe Lowell to accept service of the DNC’s complaint on July 18.
In its filing, the DNC said it served all the defendants in their lawsuit.
These include the Trump Campaign,
Donald Trump Jr.,
Roger Stone,
George Papadopoulos,
Paul Manafort,
Richard Gates and
Emin Agalarov.
The DNC suit also names foreign defendants including
Russia,
WikiLeaks and
Julian Assange.
Game’s up, Kushner!
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre
No. The FBI terminated him as a source because he went public with information. And after that 3 more applications were granted for renewals. I know you did not read that application
You just filled in the blanks with your conspiracy.
Trump Expert David Cay Johnston Warns that Russia Has 'More Than 30 Years' of Blackmail Material on the President
He also explained how the president's narcissism factors into the equation.
“We know the Russians have been courting Donald,
spending money on him and
putting money in his pocket for more than 30 years,” Johnston said.
“Donald’s son, one of his sons, has said they were getting lots of money from Russians,
and he’d been deeply involved with deals […] with Russian gangsters.”
“He believes in his own mind he’s better than the rest of us, and he should be in charge for life,” Johnston explained of the president's narcissism.
“But Donald also knows that his tax returns are a real problem [...]
Russian money is very important to Donald’s position."
Johnston elaborated that
Trump's financial ties to Russia
explain "why when
he has no money and
he had no credit,
he was flush with cash
through all sorts of deals as well as being bailed out a few years ago.”
https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/trump-expert-david-cay-johnston-warns-russia-has-more-30-years-blackmail-material
Nobody knows where Trash got $100Ms to buy those Scottish properties.
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Where Did Donald Trump Get Two Hundred Million Dollars to Buy His Money-Losing Scottish Golf Club?
https://www.newyorker.com/news-desk/...tish-golf-club
metadata collection =/= surveillance
You need to show me the "degree of possible bias" case history for FISA warrants. "Because muh conspiracy theory says so" doesn't cut it.
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