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Where's Bush?
President has not been seen publicly since August 13th Waco Little League softball game.
Day 13: Camp Casey
A letter from a Cindy Sheehan supporter in Crawford:
Friends,
Talk to you all soon,I had promised a few people that I would write about why I was going to Crawford before I left. I thought that I would be able to do that on the first day I got here --- I was wrong. I have been incredibly busy as the person drafted to be the Crawford Peace House volunteer coordinator that I don’t think I’ve gotten to post anything in about 3 days. I apologize for the void in communication, and I realize people are wanting to know about what’s going on!
First, Cindy and Dede’s Mom is okay, considering she had a stroke ---- it was not life threatening. Dede (Cindy’s sister) will stay with her from here on out, and Cindy should be back by tomorrow. There’s no such thing as good timing when it comes to something like that, but this weekend is particularly trying because they are trying to move the encampment at the site to the plot of land that a lone sympathetic rancher has so kindly allowed the vigil keepers to stay on. In addition, Amy Goodman just got here last night, in addition to an AirAmerica affiliate from San Diego. There are celebrities scheduled to arrive here this weekend besides Lance Armstrong; unfortunately, I am not at liberty to say who they are. Because Crawford is so small, it has been a real struggle to be able to handle the influx of people coming to the Peace House and Camp Casey from a logistical point of view, so advertising who may show up is not being pushed right now. Just handling the parking situation is an ongoing challenge because the House is actually located on the main road going in to Crawford, and they are without a parking lot. Many of the neighbors are not exactly thrilled by our presence, so coming up with space can often be a headache. Add that to food, porta potties, water, ice……. Well, you get the idea.
But that’s not why I’m writing this. Let me just tell you a quick story illustrating a part of the why.
A few days ago, one of the two mail carriers that deliver mail in town whispered to our Parking Queen, Barbara (from San Diego), that any mail that only had “Crawford Peace House” without the actual numbered address, was being ‘returned to sender.’ Apparently, the Crawford Post Office was in the habit of holding on to the mail and then every now and then, sending them back to the people who had written either Cindy or CPH. Barbara, a retired postal worker, informed me that while that was technically possible, to do so was a real indication of their at ude towards what was happening here. After a few well placed phone calls to various Congressional reps, Postal Inspectors from Dallas and regional offices paid a visit to the post office here in town. It’s true many pieces of mail were returned to people, but we found out that a large amount had also just gone back to the main Dallas-Ft Worth Post Office. It was just sitting there.
Johnny Wolfe, one of the co-founders of the Peace House went to the DFW office to pick the lot that had been sent back. When he walked into the place, he noticed that AirAmerica was cranked up in the front receiving area of the office. After he introduced himself at the counter and informed them that he was there to pick up the mail, the entire facility, including the processing center in the back, stopped and came to the front. They cheered and roared their approval in the loudest Texas fashion for everyone in Crawford who was there to take it to Bush. News of this brought tears to a few of us back at the House. I can’t begin to adequately describe what it’s meant to get that kind of support. When I think of how difficult it’s been, I just think of those moments that I couldn’t even begin to imagine reading in a story.
Experiences like that have shown me that people everywhere, not just those that have gone out of their way to come here, are with us (and by that I mean all of you reading this, as well). Most of America truly understands that there is no light at the end of this dark, foul tunnel --- they want it to stop ----- and stop before it goes elsewhere…..
I am asking everyone who is reading this to please, please --- bring this subject up now and at the conferences. Talk about this! I know we have the special election to deal with (I’ve already walked precincts), and the issue of electoral integrity is major, but we can’t let the issue of the war and occupation get away from us. It is bankrupting us in blood and treasure. As DFAers, we have an obligation to continue to raise difficult questions ---- and demand they be answered for the sake of making us and the Party better than it is now. To continue this silence for strategy’s sake is morally impoverished as a part of a vision for ‘taking our country back’. Choosing to not decide IS a choice.
Get this rolling! TALK! I’m going to really try to steal some moments where I can type today, but I’m already off to the first event of the day: the National Council of Churches will have an Interfaith Service at noon. 300 clergy bused in from everywhere will be at the site to lend solidarity to the efforts of the brave souls who have stuck in out in the unbearable heat.
karen
You can e-mail Karen in Crawford at: <[email protected] >
MIA
Where's Bush?
President has not been seen publicly since August 13th Waco Little League softball game.
Great Dan, you've uncovered the fact that the US postal service is innefficient! Next, you'll be telling us that the city council takes bribes.
unfortunetly she's become the tool for some ultra left wingers, believe me you parade out the anti war demonstraters and sane rational people tend to give up, it would be like the right alway parading out jerry falwell and pat robertson... extremism doesn't work no matter what side of the aisle it's from.
Cindy Sheehan: 35% Favorable 38% Unfavorable
Survey of 1,000 Adults
August 17-18, 2005
Cindy Sheehan
Favorable 35%
Unfavorable 38%
RasmussenReports.com
Following Sheehan Story
Very Closely 25%
Somewhat Closely 30%
Not Very Closely 27%
Not At All 15%
RasmussenReports.com
August 19, 2005--Cindy Sheehan, the grieving mother who maintained an anti-War protest outside of President Bush's ranch, is viewed favorably by 35% of Americans and unfavorably by 38%.
Sheehan is viewed favorably by 34% of men and 35% of women. Forty-two percent (42%) of men and 34% of women have an unfavorable view.
In general, people see in Sheehan what they want to see. Opinion about her is largely based upon views of the War, rather than views about the woman herself. Democrats, by a 56% to 18% margin, have a favorable opinion. Republicans, by a 64% to 16% margin, have an unfavorable view. Those not affiliated with either major party are evenly divided.
People who think we should withdraw troops from Iraq now have a positive opinion of Sheehan (59% favorable, 12% unfavorable). Those who do not think we should withdraw troops at this time have a negative view (15% favorable , 64% unfavorable).
Among those with family members who have served in the military, Sheehan is viewed favorably by 31% and unfavorably by 48%.
Forty-two percent (42%) of Married Americans have an unfavorable opinion of Sheehan while 33% have a favorable opinion. Among those who are not married, Sheehan's numbers are 38% favorable and 30% favorable.
Fifty-five percent (55%) of Americans say they are following the Sheehan story somewhat or very closely. That is a lower level of interest than Americans have in stories about Iran's nuclear capabilities. It is roughly comparable to the interest in stories about Supreme Court nominee John Roberts.
News reports said that Sheehan left Texas yesterday (Thursday) to be with her mother who had suffered a stroke. Sheehan vowed to return as soon as possible.
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Bush says the war is "worth the sacrifice". For whom? I would like to see if he would send his daughters over to Iraq amidst the fighting...then let us see if he thinks this quagmire is worth the sacrifice. no, he would not let his daughters die for oil or because he wants to spread freedom.
Bush is nothing but a lying, special interest grabbing flag waving con man.
If not for oil interests, we would not be there. Whottt, you know that and yet, you hide behind your "patriotism" and just act like this is all just, and that is wrong.
We are wanting to "spread freedom" all around the world.....that is BULL . There are hundreds of countries that are under the same type of tyrrany as Iraq is, but they have nothing of interest to us, we have nothing to gain either monetarily or politically by freeing these people, so we just shake our heads and say, "how tragic", yet we do nothing for them militarily.
We have allienated over 90% of our allies, bcause they know the real reason why we are over there....am I am sick of it.
Greed, plain and simple.
Bush and his adminstration.
Yeah Jim and those countries not sitting on billlions of dollars in Oil don't have billions of dollars to develop nukes with...
On top of that none of them had invaded another country and signed a UN cease fire agreement that they had violated.
Where are the WOMD????
Why are we still there?????
Would Bush let his daughters die for this cause???
Answer those questions?
why do people persist with such idiotic, melodramatic schmaltz like "would so-and-so send their sons to die"? As if we live in some bizaare, mythical world where parents actually send their adult offspring to wars. No, Bush nor anyone else can send their children to war. Those "children" in question are grown-ups and they are allowed to *gasp* make their own decisions. I find this paternalistic at ude toward full grown men and women really nauseating (and kind of weird). And I'm really glad we live in a world where my parents are not allowed to send me places.
Careful Jelly...Jim will threaten to beat your ass if you press the issue.
you mean he would hit a girl...that's sad
Being a girl may cause a different reaction from him.
Any man would be proud to give his only son for democracy.
I knew I liked jelly for some reason...... now I know..
I would hate to be your son.
That is the most pathetic, idiotic utterance that I have ever ever seen in my life.
I am sad for your children. I hope you do not have children, and if you don't then please get a vasectomy. You are a freak.
You would let your child die to bring democracy to another country, a country that hates our guts???
[QUOTE=Jimcs50]Bush says the war is "worth the sacrifice". For whom? I would like to see if he would send his daughters over to Iraq amidst the fighting...then let us see if he thinks this quagmire is worth the sacrifice. no, he would not let his daughters die for oil or because he wants to spread freedom.
Bush is nothing but a lying, special interest grabbing flag waving con man.
If not for oil interests, we would not be there. Whottt, you know that and yet, you hide behind your "patriotism" and just act like this is all just, and that is wrong.
We are wanting to "spread freedom" all around the world.....that is BULL . There are hundreds of countries that are under the same type of tyrrany as Iraq is, but they have nothing of interest to us, we have nothing to gain either monetarily or politically by freeing these people, so we just shake our heads and say, "how tragic", yet we do nothing for them militarily.
We have allienated over 90% of our allies, bcause they know the real reason why we are over there....am I am sick of it.
Greed, plain and simple.
Bush and his adminstration.[/QUOTE
Exactly. Well done, Jim. I was beginning to associate the word "Patriot" with things like sheep and towing the company line. Your post was very refreshing.
Jelly, it is apropos in this situation. Do you understand?? Do you have a ing brain???
Bush stated 3 wks ago that "this war is worth the sacrifice." What has HE sacrificed???? I asked the question about HIS kids, because he does not know what it is like to lose a child in battle. How does HE know that this oil war is worth losing a child, worth the sacrifice?????????????
How dare he say that this is worth the sacrifice, when he has lost NOTHING in this war. his smug at ude.
He avoided going to an equally unjust war in Vietnam, had his dad not pulled some strings, he might have found out first hand what sacrifice really is.
You people are ignorant simpletons, that believe whatever the party says...you are no smarter than the Germans that followed the Nazis in their political propaganda in the 30s.
Think for yourselves for a change...read....use your ing brains.......if you have any left.
They say we are doomed to repeat history if we do not learn from history, well, this is another Viet Nam, it is a war being waged for one reason, and that is for monetary gain, and our sons and daughters, mothers and fathers and dying for it.
Another reaon to oppose this ed up war is we are losing well trained soldiers of our special forces, soldiers that are not just drafted grunts, like we lost in Nam. These soldiers are SEALs, Rangers and Delta Company soldiers...these people are trained to protect us in counter terrorism, these men are being wasted in this God forsaken country. We will not have enough of these specialists left to fight against the REAL enemy, al-Qaeda. We are spreading ourselves thin, and the real enemy is taking note, believe me.
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Thankyou...I am glad to see that some Spurs' fans actually have a brain.
STFU! Were you asking Clinton to send Chelsea to Bosnia, Kosovo, etc... We are still there.
The sheep are the ones who don't want to do . They want to follow the UN. It is hard to see why anyone would follow the UN when you see they had their hands in all sorts of illegal activities in Iraq. No wonder they didn't want us to enforce the laws in Iraq.
Did you not care that our planes were being fired on for the prior 10 years before Desert Storm II? Did you think it was okay for Saddam to be trying to shoot our planes down?
You mixed Clinton into the discussion. Amazing. Hence the problem of separating true issues from politics. For some of you, it is impossible.
No A-hole, the sheep are the ones who do whatever their leaders say without question, no matter how ed up it may be. I know that is a difficult concept for you, but try your best to understand it.
The UN didn't approve of Kosovo, but Clinton got us into a war that we are still in NOW. Soldiers are killed there too. Did he or you require that Clinton send Chelsea?
Also, like Jelly said, how the is someone going to send their adult child anywhere?too ing funny!
Well, Iraq is similar to Kosovo.
Kosovo Iraq
People were being killed by a tyrant.. X X
Country firing at US Planes X X
UN didn't care X X
etc... X X
Jim,
you are an ignorant jackass. Are you just not capable of grasping the idea that there are more than two positions to take on Iraq... Extreme right and extreme left? Do you not have the cognitive skills to view the war as a more complex situation or do you have to reduce everything to tired old cliches.....Bush is evil, it's only about oil, would you send your son...blah, blah,blah.
I agree that we are spreading our military thin, but it doesn't do anything for the debate when you resort to grossly exaggerated claims like we are losing all our special forces and we won't have anyone left to protect Americans on the mainland. You're a flaming idiot and arrogant asshole if you think everyone who isn't screeching your kind of exaggerated, doomsday rhetoric is some pro-Bush chickenhawk republican that can't read or think for themselves. I happen to be against this war, asshole. But I don't share your simplistic brainwashed view that Bush is the devil incarnate and that the administration are his evil disciples. No do I believe that the war has been the apocalyptic "disaster" that unhinged leftwing fear mongers keep screaming about. Take your own advice and do some reading...something other than leftwing websites, experiment with thinking on your own, without all the liberal propaganda to prop up your arguments...it'll feel strange at first but you'll get used to it.
I wonder is Bush has ever said to his daughters..."You are with me or against me. Now go enlist because we must stay the course and if that Sheehan can lose a son I can damn sure lose a daughter for this great cause."
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