ok then, who should have the spurs signed instead? who was/is available and it better than KT?
You conveniently left out the Roger Mason signing along with the drafting the Spurs did. Just because we do not trade our draft picks away (twice) does not mean the Spurs are doing nothing. Rockets making a nice move to get Artest does not = the Spurs standing still. Ignorant.
Have the details been released about who exactly is being traded?
I was under the impression that the Kings were looking to move Kenny Thomas' contract, too, if they were to trade Artest. That would translate into quite a bit of player movement for both teams should that occur.
I would doubt that Houston would want that deal, except for the fact that Thomas played pretty well in Adelman's system when RA was coaching the Kings.
btw. there are now rumors in Bulls land, that now the Kings and Bulls are talking about a trade of Brad Miller for Nocioni+Simmons.
(http://www.rumorpress.net/)
Tiago Splitter would've been nice.
Oh, right, Roger Mason... how could I have forgotten about him? My mistake. I stand correct, sir. My ignorance blinds me!
If I'm not mistaken, they're suppose to include Patrick Ewing Jr., Sean Singletary, and perhaps another player or two to make the salary match.
Kings get Jackson, 2009 1st round pick, Greene, and $1 million cash.
The Lakers have not made a move. They lost Turiaf. They're getting Bynum back from injury, but that's not making a move.
The Jazz have not made a move, they've merely retained their players.
The Hornets added Posey.
I think Golden State, Denver, and LA Clippers all took a step back, maybe they've stood pat - at best.
The rest of the WC are not making moves. The only legitimate additions have been with New Orleans and Houston.
Congrats, I'm not about to piss on the Artest trade and call it rain. But the Spurs have made moves.
Tiago Splitter was outside their control. Even an ignorant Rockets fan can see that. The Spurs were locked into a 1st round salary, absolutely nothing they could have done about that.Tiago Splitter would've been nice.
Oh, right, Roger Mason... how could I have forgotten about him? My mistake. I stand correct, sir. My ignorance blinds me!
And Roger Mason is an addition, wake up.
Rockets best 5 (the 5 that'll they'll use during crunch time) will likely be:
Barry - PG
McGrady - SG
Artest - SF
Scola - PF
Ming - C
Last year's playoffs showed that the only guys who could score were McGrady and Scola. Battier couldn't make a shot unless he was open. Artest and a healthy Yao Ming gives them offensive options.
What's glaring obvious though is that Artest and Battier fill the same role. Although I got to admit, with both of them in the floor it'll be a pretty sufocating defense!
but am i right about how maybe ST got really scared or excited when this team first got put together?
Yao,T-Mac, and Artest are not going to get far. mark my words.
It is possible, but the fact that they won 55 games last year and made the playoffs means they will have a better chance this year. This team on paper is 10x more scary than the Nuggets roster was. Not even close.
Well, Mcgrady is the only Rocket that can pretty much create his own shot (and Scola, to a minimum). Adding Artest gives us two/three.
Battier's game has always been the open look. He rarely takes it to the rim, which is odd, because when he does, he usually finds success.
In regards to Yao, he does give us offensive options, but is a defensive liability (see: Utah Jazz)
I guess that the Kings are good with Spencer Hawes/Shelden Williams/Mikki Moore. Nocioni is a Ron Artest light.
What do you consider 'not far'??
As much as I think Rick Adelman has his shortcomings as a coach sometimes, I also think he's probably the perfect guy to coach Artest. Barring some sort of internal strife or Ron Artest meltdown I think this trade will be good for the Rockets.
he decided to stay with tau and get paid. any other options?
Michael Jordan.
Circa 1998.
Time for Pop to get in the DeLorean and fire up the flux capacitor.
I agree. realistically, nothing has been proven...
but sure like the way it looks on paper!
GO ROCKETS!!!
The Rockets were already solid defensively...and not only did they add another good defender but also a 20ppg scorer. Its all there for the Rockets now. They have depth, defense and three legit scorers. The only worries they have are chemistry and health. If Ron Ron stays a team player and TMac/Yao are healthy come playoff time the Spurs/Lakers/Hornets all need to be seriously concerned.
The bottom line is that if the Rockets can get 70+ games from BOTH Yao and T-Mac, and Artest is on his best behavior during a contract year, then they have as good a shot as anybody. But because that is not a lock, Rox fans shouldn't start planning a parade just yet.
BRAVO!
you are truly a smart person!
your post is IN!
Yao played 80+ games his first three years. Now look at his last three years as he started playing 35+ minutes a game: 57, 48 and 55 games played.
McGrady has averaged around 65 games a year for the past five. And he's an old 29, he's been playing heavy minutes in this League since he was 19.
I wonder how long it will be before Artest once to be a bigger part of the offense. I know that the Rockets wanted a third scorer to complement Yao/TMac, but Artest is an inefficient ballstopper.
That said, they're a better team today. But in some ways, the same old questions and issues remain in Houston...
In the first injury year he got his foot stepped on and it broke a bone....freak injury.
In the 2nd injury year he got his knee bent backwards as a Clipper player fell into him breaking a bone in his knee...another freak injury.
In this last year, he had a stress fracture - the only injury that was not the result of an accident......
He has been guilty of being unlucky more than injury prone.
But now you don't have to play McGrady and Yao so many minutes, with Barry and now Artest and the talent so much improved you can rest them more in each game....keeping them healthy....sort of what Popovich does in San Antonio.
DD
Findog's point is that if either T-Mac or Yao go down again the Rockets are still screwed. Same questions are still there and will be there until the Rockets break up that duo.
They are not screwed. Yao was down last year and they still went to game 6. It is like having Bynum go down and then you get to replace him with Pau. If T-mac goes down, you get to put a player that is capable of taking over on the floor that they did not have before.
If Manu is hurt or can not play, the Spurs replace him with?
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