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    I think Rasheed Wallace would be a fabulous fit, depending on what the Spurs would have to give up. With the possibility of adding Bowen as Barry/McDyess-type filler in a deal, the odds go up to an extent.

    I think the thing that seems most encouraging to me is that this is being reported in a lot of places by a lot of people who have sources inside the league. Of course, that should probably be more discouraging than anything else, since Pop is notoriously clandestine in trade talks and rarely pulls off something that is so widely talked about. Still, the Kurt Thomas deal last year seemed to be a pretty obvious move and was discussed here for days before it happened. I don't know that I'm completely unwilling to buy the possibility of Rasheed landing here at some point. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed; I really think Wallace would be a quantum leap for the Spurs.

    And I think Ghost Writer's head would explode.

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    i just don't want to see the following off the roster...

    big3+bowen
    hill
    ma$on
    bonner
    thomas
    -mahinmi

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    Of all the players press talks about Wallace is far and away my hope/dream, unlikely as it is. I'm with Miller, Wallace puts the Spurs ahead of the Lakers hands down. Wallace appears disinterested and I'm betting Pop would breathe fire in him like no coach he's ever had before. Lakers' fans would their pants if this deal went down.

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    Of all the players press talks about Wallace is far and away my hope/dream, unlikely as it is. I'm with Miller, Wallace puts the Spurs ahead of the Lakers hands down. Wallace appears disinterested and I'm betting Pop would breathe fire in him like no coach he's ever had before. Lakers' fans would their pants if this deal went down.
    Good additon, no doubt. But taking the Spurs over the top? W/O Bynum in the line-up than we can talk but your kidding me if you think Sheed is your panacea.

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    Good additon, no doubt. But taking the Spurs over the top? W/O Bynum in the line-up than we can talk but your kidding me if you think Sheed is your panacea.
    You must be TheBoyWithAcne and don't know what a motivate Wallace defends like. TD + Wallace could be return of the true twin towers.

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    i just don't want to see the following off the roster...

    big3+bowen
    hill
    ma$on
    bonner
    thomas
    -mahinmi
    I'm with you. Any combination that includes Finley, Udoka, Vaughn, Oberto, Spitter's rights, cash and future 1st round picks is just fine with me. Anything else and I would just wait to get Sheed for nothing this summer.

    By the way, imagine a corp of bigs next year that could potentially include Duncan, KT, Ian, Bonner, Gist and Sheed.
    Last edited by SenorSpur; 02-10-2009 at 12:10 PM.

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    I would even let go of Ian, Bonner, Thomas for Sheed. But I agree, keeping Hill, Mason, Bowen + big 3 is a must

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    I would even let go of Ian, Bonner, Thomas for Sheed. But I agree, keeping Hill, Mason, Bowen + big 3 is a must
    I'd let go Bonner and Mahinmi.

    Thomas, maybe.

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    When Rasheed is coming, I die to be considered the worst and dirtiest team in NBA history.

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    I think it's pretty strange to see people putting Bonner on their "don't trade" list, remembering that most of us have been calling for his head the last two seasons, including me.

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    It would require one of the Spurs big three and either Mason or Hill just to let Dumars consider it. He won't trade Rasheed for junk. Rasheed is being rumored as the centerpiece in a package for Amare. But the Pistons should trade him for Vaugh, Udoka, and Thomas instead? Come on now.

    It's either find another team to accept junk to give the Pistons a legit offer or wait til this summer for a chance at Rasheed.

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    Id trade Bonner for Wallace without even thinking about it.

    This trade seems really far fetched but i got a feeling it COULD happen. I never want to say never and maybe Dumars looks at is as, its either trading him to a eastern conference team of a western conference team.

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    It would require one of the Spurs big three and either Mason or Hill just to let Dumars consider it. He won't trade Rasheed for junk. Rasheed is being rumored as the centerpiece in a package for Amare. But the Pistons should trade him for Vaugh, Udoka, and Thomas instead? Come on now.

    It's either find another team to accept junk to give the Pistons a legit offer or wait til this summer for a chance at Rasheed.

    For Rasheed Wallace at his age?

    Yeah, wtf ever

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    For Rasheed Wallace at his age?

    Yeah, wtf ever
    Precisely.

    Exactly why the Spurs aren't going to be getting Wallace in a deal this year unless a third team is involved.

    Get it? Anything outside the the Spurs Big 3 plus either Mason or Hill aren't assets the Pistons want. So, it would take that to make a deal. And, since of course the Spurs wouldn't offer that, the Spurs aren't getting Rasheed.

    Understand?

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    Precisely.

    Exactly why the Spurs aren't going to be getting Wallace in a deal this year unless a third team is involved.

    Get it? Anything outside the the Spurs Big 3 plus either Mason or Hill aren't assets the Pistons want. So, it would take that to make a deal. And, since of course the Spurs wouldn't offer that, the Spurs aren't getting Rasheed.

    Understand?
    Doesn't hurt to hope though does it?

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    Precisely.

    Exactly why the Spurs aren't going to be getting Wallace in a deal this year unless a third team is involved.

    Get it? Anything outside the the Spurs Big 3 plus either Mason or Hill aren't assets the Pistons want. So, it would take that to make a deal. And, since of course the Spurs wouldn't offer that, the Spurs aren't getting Rasheed.

    Understand?

    Look smartass, I can still ing laugh at it, because if thats YOUR and the pistons expectations for what to get for him, your getting jack .

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    Look smartass, I can still ing laugh at it, because if thats YOUR and the pistons expectations for what to get for him, your getting jack .

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    I think for a veteran player to come from another team and work out as a Spur, he has to be a high quality guy, like Finley or Kurt Thomas. Somebody that is coachable. This isnt to be confused with somebody that just wants a ring. Somebody who might get their ass chewed by Pop for poor defence. I think Rasheed is a great player but I really dont think he would work out here. He'd play ok but probably get all sullen and pissed off at Pop, Tim or whoever. It would be worse with Vince Carter I might add. Same for guys like AI, Stackhouse ect... Just to throw some names out, guys like McDyess, Kamen, Miller, those are the type of guys who would suceed under our system.

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    Yes, he represents a risk, but when you are behind and chasing the Lakers, you need to take some chances. I'd even be willing to throw in Hill if it came to that. Hill, while a huge improvement over Vaughn, isn't going to put you over the top. Rasheed very well could.

    One important variable in considering a trade like this, is how much Duncan has left? I'm much less inclined to throw Hill in if I think Duncan's championship window will last another three year or four years. If that's the case, maybe you wait til the off-season and try and get Rasheed on the cheap.
    Bynums a bit of a hothead as well. Prior to that flagrant, he had been giving some tough hard fouls and received a few techs. Rasheed may be able to get under the kids skin and it could be a wash.

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    Sheed would thrive in SA, but it aint' gonna happen this season anyway.

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    Look smartass, I can still ing laugh at it, because if thats YOUR and the pistons expectations for what to get for him, your getting jack .
    Look, dumbass, laugh all you want. I gave an opinion, and you're having a hissy fit over that opinion. If the Pistons get jack for Rasheed Wallace, then so be it. Jack is still more than Vaughn, Udoka, Thomas, Mahinmi, Bowen, Finley, and Bonner all together. That's reality.

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    You must be TheBoyWithAcne and don't know what a motivate Wallace defends like. TD + Wallace could be return of the true twin towers.
    What's the use? Shame on me for taking away the one thing we should never strip away from our fellow man (or boy in this case)......HOPE.

    Should you land him (and I dearly hope you do) it will make it that much sweeter when your sent home packing.

    Good luck.

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    I would even let go of Ian, Bonner, Thomas for Sheed. But I agree, keeping Hill, Mason, Bowen + big 3 is a must
    Yeah same here. The guys I would ship out Fin, Vaughn, Oberto, Thomas, Bonner, and Bowen. Everyone keeps saying a sign and trade deal with Horry, i dont see how that would work.

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    Yeah same here. The guys I would ship out Fin, Vaughn, Oberto, Thomas, Bonner, and Bowen. Everyone keeps saying a sign and trade deal with Horry, i dont see how that would work.
    the only reason that would work out with horry would be to match up salary-wise. that's the only reason he was being mentioned in trades.

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    Look, dumbass, laugh all you want. I gave an opinion, and you're having a hissy fit over that opinion. If the Pistons get jack for Rasheed Wallace, then so be it. Jack is still more than Vaughn, Udoka, Thomas, Mahinmi, Bowen, Finley, and Bonner all together. That's reality.
    I disagree somewhat. If the Pistons are faced with letting him walk for nothing (which is not so bad because they get cap space) then getting a young upside big that does not cost a lot (Mahinmi) or that is off the books entirely (Splitter) is not a bad option as long as they get to keep the vast majority of the cap space as well.

    I agree the Pistons will not trade Sheed unless they get a package like I described or like I outlined in the "perfect storm" scenario (Amare). The only teams Sheed helps are teams on the cusp of being champs. So not only do the Pistons have to find a team that fits that, but they also have to find a team with a young boarderline superstar that they are willing to part with in order to make their team better this year for a run at a le and that wants cap space. The Suns are the only team that fit that criteria imo.

    But if that is not a reality, then getting Mahinmi and keeping your cap space sounds like a good deal if you are going to just get cap space anyways.

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