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Skimming through, this thread was notably light on the slavery reparations...
... and notably full of legend, lore and false lore relating to gay marriage. What a shock.
My interest was casual.
It's probably in this thread somewhere, huh?
Skimming through, this thread was notably light on the slavery reparations...
... and notably full of legend, lore and false lore relating to gay marriage. What a shock.
Not surprising.
It wasn't in this thread, I checked.
Why so stingy, Whottt? Other posters give links when asked...if they have them.
[quote=jman3000;3454664]eh... there's always going to be some re ed people in congress given how big it is.
Obama suggests reparations to blacks, Native Americans
Says 'the most important thing to do
is not just offer words, but offer deeds'
Posted: July 30, 2008
8:50 pm Eastern
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
Sen. Barack Obama told a meeting in Chicago the U.S. should review how it can make amends for "offenses" committed during its history.
And one author is speculating that might even include reparations for al-Qaida soldiers, since, after all, they've been held in violation of their "rights."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71043
Fake Barry, my man. Back in character, I see.
Just pointing out some FACTS.
Whottt ANGRY! Whottt no want blake to post to him again! Whottt no can figure out how to use the ignore feature!
Just curious, is your source for white slavery in America Michael A. Hoffman II?
Where is that movement on the Hill?
Or was this just another campaign promise cynically contrived to exploit black voters and guilty libs, Fake Barry?
Why is it so difficult for America to apologize for slavery? America apologized to asian americans for holding them in little camps during a portion of the war but cant apologize for 400 year of slavery?? What in the is so difficult? An official apology will go a long long way.
I'm sorry America had slavery for 400 years.
Not official. But hey was that so hard to do though? The apology can't come from a black president. It will have to come from a rich blue eyed president so this subject will have to be put on hold for the next 7 years.
No, my sources were, among others, a former President of the American Historical Association, a PHD history professor at an IVY league college, a US Supreme Court Justice, not to mention a legislator who passed emancipation legislation in his state about a hundred years or so before Lincoln got around to doing it. I didn't get my history education from an internet blog or wiki dumbass.
Dude just say "White people did some ed up a long time ago and the repercussions from said are still being felt today."
Just acknowledge it and cut the bull . That's all self-respecting members of minority races want anyway. They don't give a about 40 acres and a mule or giving Native Americans some land back. They just want little ers to quit acting like all the bad never happened.
It amazes me that people are still trying to justify this .
"Black people had slaves too!"
Yeah sure they did. Next you'll be telling us that most gay people are against gay marriage.
Just lies for the of it huh?
You know what you just did there? You just generalized and stereotyped an entire race of people..
Might as well be saying blacks are lazy and Mexicans are thieves...
There is nothing I find more offensive than being generalized by an ignorant ing to ing stupid to realize he is doing the same things he is condemning others for in the very instant he is doing the condemning...
You are an idiot.
I did not deny whites owned slaves idiot.
Show me where I did?
Then learn what a ing reparation is...then my comments won't seem so clueless to your ignorant ass.
And I refuse to apologize
A. For something I didn't do.
B. To someone who it was never done to.
You show me as slave I owned you ignorant , and then I'll apologize to them.
Just acknowledge it and cut the bull . That's all self-respecting members of minority races want anyway.
Minority races demanding an apology from me for something,
A. I didn't do.
B. To someone I didn't do it to
Becuase of my ing race, is racism you ing idiot.
They don't give a about 40 acres and a mule or giving Native Americans some land back. They just want little ers to quit acting like all the bad never happened.
And I want people it never happened to to shut the up and stop acting like it happened to them.
Not a single mother er, in this thread
Was ever a slave
Ever owned a slave.
So take your ing apology and stick it.
And I'm amazed someone as stupid as you actually is has measurable brain activity.It amazes me that people are still trying to justify this .
Am sorry it happened? Sure...but I didn't ing do it so what is the meaning behind it? I am not a slave owner, so what does me apologizing for something I didn't do to someone I didn't do it to accomplish?"Black people had slaves too!"
Yeah sure they did. Next you'll be telling us that most gay people are against gay marriage.
Just lies for the of it huh?
Does it makes those whose minds are totally enslaved by a racial prism feel better for a few seconds?
I'm sorry for you as well...
I feel sorry for you, you've a long life ahead of you trapped inside a stupid, ignorant, bigoted racist mind.
You are my racism my friend, you are the mind behind slavery.
"white people did some ed up "
Last edited by whottt; 06-11-2009 at 11:17 PM.
Just so you know...the first legally registered slave owner in this land, was a black man named Anthony Johnson, and he won ownership of another black man for life, on the basis of African customs of slavery. Customs still in practice, in Africa, to this day.
The idea that 200 white guys went into Africa on a boat and enslaved 400,000 blacks on their own continent is quite possibly the stupidest misconception I have ever seen. If that had been done Africa would be a white majority continent.
Most slaves in history were enslaved by people of their own race, and then sold.
White man enslaved the whiteman first.
Brownman enslaved the brown man first.
And Black man enslaved the Black man first.
Laying it at the feet of one race and turning a blind eye to all other instances is ing ignorant, and does nothing to defeat this stupid color line drawn in peoples minds.
And as long as you keep drawing those lines, those lines will continue to be barriers.
Personally I think this is one issue is hopeless, as there are far too many ing stupid people on this planet to ever overcome this trait that makes us, in fact, stupider than animals.
Just remember, these people that judged people based on racial lines, first had to draw those racial lines...you are either a person who draws racial lines, or you are not.
Me? I get offended because I never owned a ing slave. It is not my crime, it is not my cross to bear. And I can see absolutely nothing productive to be gained from bearing it, since those who did, are long since dead. And I will resist those that attempt to put that on me....especially when they are ones drawing the racial lines as they do it.
Stop drawing racial lines and racial lines will stop being drawn...a racial line is a racial line, no matter who is drawing it.
Yes, I guess I did generalize when I said "white people," so let me say this: Lots and lots of white people did some ed up .
Bottom line, in America, there weren't many, if any, minority members pushing for the continuation of slavery.
As for your personal apology...no one is asking for it.
As for a national apology...few people are calling for that.
The point I was making when I said "Just acknowledge it and cut the bull . That's all self-respecting members of minority races want anyway," is that minorities want their more insensitive fellow citizens who generally happen to be white to quit acting as if all of the bad stuff that happened in past is insignificant and that it has no bearing on the present day.
As for the rest of your rhetoric, "You are racism" ect...whatever. I haven't said anything remotely racists.
Really, saying "white people did some ed up " is not that bad. It's akin to saying black people voted for Obama. Did every black person vote for Obama? Of course not, but enough of them did so that a generalization like that doesn't warrant any backlash.
It's not like I said "White people, in general are racists." That would have been something to be pissed about given the day and age we live in. However, when talking about that happened to Native Americans and the slave era, there really is not much to cry about.
Didn't Bush just send $50 billion to the motherland?
Even Obama threw them a bone. Don't we pay for African baby killing these days?
They're starving and over there and that's just not baller.
It was a minority of the population of white people that owned slaves in this country.
Bottom line, white people represent the majority of those that died in the civil war.Bottom line, in America, there weren't many, if any, minority members pushing for the continuation of slavery.
White people started the anti-slavery movements, white men signed the civil rights legislation into law, and white people spoke for minorities when minorities were not allowed to speak for themselves.
So I tell you what, when I get a thank you for that, even though I had jack ing to do with it, then I'll start aplogizing for I didn't do to people I didn't do it too.
As for your personal apology...no one is asking for it.
As for a national apology...few people are calling for that.
Who makes it? Congress? Then Black President signs it into law?
Go for it...works for me. I could careless if they do that. If you think it will change something, by all means go for it.
I support it 100%.
However, the government who owes that apology is no longer in existence, the government that owes that apology, would be an all white government endorsing the enslavement of others.
That government is not our government, that government is dead. It was killed by mostly white people.
For that government to apologize, that government would have to exist.
The point I was making when I said "Just acknowledge it and cut the bull . That's all self-respecting members of minority races want anyway," is that minorities want their more insensitive fellow citizens who generally happen to be white to quit acting as if all of the bad stuff that happened in past is insignificant and that it has no bearing on the present day.
The white people alive today had nothing to do with what happend then, they weren't born then.
And you know what? That statement isn't a generalization.
Neither is saying no minority alive today was ever legally enslaved with the power of the government backing it on the basis of it's skin.
I'm not trying to be insensitive, it's just that I don't like being held accountable for things I didn't do, by those I didn't do them too.
Furthermore, racial lines are racial lines, they will continue to exist and be barriers, as long as we continue to draw them, anyone.
I try not to look at through racial eyes, I think that's what causes it.
Depends on the color of your skin....As for the rest of your rhetoric, "You are racism" ect...whatever. I haven't said anything remotely racists.
Really, saying "white people did some ed up " is not that bad. It's akin to saying black people voted for Obama. Did every black person vote for Obama? Of course not, but enough of them did so that a generalization like that doesn't warrant any backlash.
It's not like I said "White people, in general are racists." That would have been something to be pissed about given the day and age we live in. However, when talking about that happened to Native Americans and the slave era, there really is not much to cry about.
Look...there are minorities that embrace their minority status and cling to it.
200 years ago they were saying in opposition, we're all the same despite the color of our skin...
Now they're saying, we're different, look at the color of our skin.
And there are white people just itching to draw those lines along with them, for their own reasons.
And so it goes...and so it will go, stupidly, in perpetuity, until there are bigger, or less things to draw lines over. Personally, I'm pretty convinced we'll soon be drawing lines over even less.
Last edited by whottt; 06-12-2009 at 12:40 AM.
Personally, I think we already are.
seriously
was it the Black man that created Negro laws?
Whites were never slaves the way Blacks were. Whites being indentured servants is not the same as being bought and sold like chattle.
I'm not the only one that thinks you are an idiot.
Please post to me again though. You're hilarious.
Was it the black man that created your ignorant ing ass?
So you think...unfortunately you are an idiot, and what you think is probably the first part of the problem in any disucssion with you.
Whites were never slaves the way Blacks were.
Whites were bought and sold. You are stupid because this did happen and it is your ignorance of this fact that has lead to the foundation of ignorance in your head that has lead to this disagreement.Whites being indentured servants is not the same as being bought and sold like chattle.
Your stupidity.
Difference is, the people that think I am an idiot are, to a man, much stupider than I am. It's by design you know.
I'm not the only one that thinks you are an idiot.
On the other hand, people that think you are a dumb ing idiot are 100% correct and, to a man, smarter than you are, which is not saying much.
Whites were bought and sold as slaves.
Fact.
Idiot.
Also a fact.
apparently a Black man has put a stick up yours
Whites voluntarily became indentured servants, mostly because they were poor.So you think...unfortunately you are an idiot, and what you think is probably the first part of the problem in any disucssion with you.
The problem in any discussion with you is that your sources are up your ass.
Take the stick out and set them free.
yup.....posted too quickly. Whites were bought and sold after they entered into indentured servitude contracts.Whites were bought and sold. You are stupid because this did happen and it is your ignorance of this fact that has lead to the foundation of ignorance in your head that has lead to this disagreement.
When I posted, I had in mind the way millions were captured in Africa and shipped over to America and bought and sold against their will and I failed to articulate that.
Your failure to recognize that slavery of Blacks led to racial subordination for several generations, even after slavery was abolished, shows your purposeful ignorance.
"I wasn't there. It's not my fault. Don't make me pay."
Wah.
There aren't any jeenyuses running around calling you brilliant either.Difference is, the people that think I am an idiot are, to a man, much stupider than I am. It's by design you know.
Of course, if you were to give me the name and phone number of your ivy league buddies, I'd be glad to call them and ask what they think of you.
If they call you a smart guy, I'll be on here instantly stating as much..........
chances are though, if they are who they say they are and you are who you think you are, they'll call you an idiot for debating politics and getting owned on a Spurs board.
Whites were bought and sold as indentured servants that entered contracts of their own free will.Whites were bought and sold as slaves.
Fact.
You fail at providing sources.
Fact.
On the other hand, people that think you are a dumb ing idiot are 100% correct and, to a man, smarter than you are, which is not saying much.
Me: "What is your source, whottt?"
whottt: "All of them"
Damn, lazy as well as stupid and racist.
I know my sources are accurate, and you either too stupid, or too lazy, or both, to find that out for yourself.
I am deliberately not giving my sources.
Because I don't care if you don't believe me, I'm right and you are stupid to think I'm wrong. I know it's a fact I'm right. Your failure to understand that and find that they are truthful statements, is due to your own stupidity and or laziness.
I don't care if you continue you living stupid....in fact I think you probably deserve it. I am not going to lift a finger to ever provide any source in any argument with you. I'm just going to state what I know is fact and call you stupid when you don't know that they are in fact, facts. Because you are stupid for not knowing it.
I am never going to post a link in any argument with you, stupid.
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