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    Patty as a back up is much better than patty as a starter. So as long as he stays a back up behind either Murray or Parker, I'm fine with this.
    $12.5m per is an expensive backup. But I guess everyone is paying premium these days.

    Simmons was offered $9m, isn't he also a backup behind Green?

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    We also need to wait and see what year 4 is all about. Could be partially guaranteed, etc.

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    What did people want to do with the point guard position? Max out Hill or Lowry at $30 mil/year for 3 or 4 years at again 31? Sign an injury prone Derrick Rose? The Mills signing was a solid one. It allows Murray a chance to be showcased as a starter. I'm guessing PATFO didn't want to overpay for someone when they have their future point guard waiting in the wings.

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    What did people want to do with the point guard position? Max out Hill or Lowry at $30 mil/year for 3 or 4 years at again 31? Sign an injury prone Derrick Rose? The Mills signing was a solid one. It allows Murray a chance to be showcased as a starter. I'm guessing PATFO didn't want to overpay for someone when they have their future point guard waiting in the wings.
    If Murray was that good, then why pay Mills at all or draft White? PATFO may have seen enough of him in the gym.

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    1. it could have been much worse, 2. he's clearly taking a paycut, 3. awful as he was he's the only "ready" PG the Spurs have at the moment.

    This could also signal tanking in FA2017 and moving on to 2018 - let's see

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    What did people want to do with the point guard position? Max out Hill or Lowry at $30 mil/year for 3 or 4 years at again 31? Sign an injury prone Derrick Rose? The Mills signing was a solid one. It allows Murray a chance to be showcased as a starter. I'm guessing PATFO didn't want to overpay for someone when they have their future point guard waiting in the wings.
    Good take

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    Only bad thing about this deal, is that it clogs up the cap space. Now decison should be made about Green vs Simmons. And probably Gasol will be back at 16.2mil, which Spurs owe him. That moves us to summer 2018

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    Only bad thing about this deal, is that it clogs up the cap space. Now decison should be made about Green vs Simmons. And probably Gasol will be back at 16.2mil, which Spurs owe him. That moves us to summer 2018
    The the Spurs make moves, they're more likely to come via trade and via FA, tbh.

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    I got no issues with the contract, but our direction is odd. LMA rumours. Green rumours. Gay rumours. Iggy? Gasol coming back on multiple years. Letting Parker rehab at 35. I really hope our game style changes.

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    Imagine a Bell Kawhi Simmons DG Murray lineup..moving forward.

    Or , a Bell KA Kawhi Green Simmons.
    Man, I was a big Bell fan going into the draft but if his foot issues are real I can't be upset with them drafting someone else.

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    Only bad thing about this deal, is that it clogs up the cap space. Now decison should be made about Green vs Simmons. And probably Gasol will be back at 16.2mil, which Spurs owe him. That moves us to summer 2018
    agree with that, maybe they can keep green and simmons.

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    Only bad thing about this deal, is that it clogs up the cap space. Now decison should be made about Green vs Simmons. And probably Gasol will be back at 16.2mil, which Spurs owe him. That moves us to summer 2018
    Why do people want to get rid of Green? He's in a fantastic deal and is far better than most on this board are willing to admit.

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    I suspect Murray is going to be packaged with Aldridge for a bigger prize.

    Here's the deal, why draft White when you already have Murray? That's because Murray can't shoot!
    I think white being drafted had more to do with green then Murray.

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    So we turn into LeBron/Westbrook/Harden teams with just one star and a bunch of shooters. One star who will be tired by game 50 of the season. And possibly struggle to win 50 games
    Yeah, pretty much.

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    Why do people want to get rid of Green? He's in a fantastic deal and is far better than most on this board are willing to admit.
    He's a 3&D player who hasn't consistently made 3s for the last two years. It's a great deal if he does those things at an elite level, but when he so limited and only provides one it lessens his value.

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    He's a 3&D player who hasn't consistently made 3s for the last two years. It's a great deal if he does those things at an elite level, but when he so limited and only provides one it lessens his value.
    He's an elite defender already. everybody.

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    He's an elite defender already. everybody.
    I didn't say he wasn't an elite defender. Part of the "trade Danny" movement is because he set an expectation of being an elite three point shooter and has fallen short of that the last two years. Personally, I'm not a big "trade Danny" guy, but I do see how people could want to upgrade at the position.

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    I would be more than fine with this deal if they don't trade Danny and if everyone else they sign does not eat up cap space next year.

    Right now, the backcourt is no better and the money from TP's contract is being replaced by Mills next year. So no more long term money, especially for Pau.

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    Yeah, it's really imperative that they don't eat up any more of the 2018 space.

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    Spurs are really gonna trot out the same ing team. wow.

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    Contract talks between the Spurs and George Hill broke off last night right before the re-signing of Patty Mills. It's rumored that the reason talks broke off was because George Hill was asking for too much and didn't want to take less.

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    Shows you how much the media & fans outside of this great city actually know about what goes on between the spurs front office. Everyone was talking like it was a foregone conculussion that Patty Mills was all but gone to chase the cash. And look he sticks around, media said spurs wont be able to pay up for him, "That's what they said".

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    Did the Spurs really ask George for a hometown discount? Dude turned town a huge extension from Utah and is looking to get paid.

    Get that money Georgie.

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    Patty giving the Spurs another value contract.

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    No other teams' free agents want to come here and no other teams want our free agents

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