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    These ing idiots need to cut someone and bring in a competent PG. They need a competent PG to run the team and dribble the ball, and that can also hit an open shot.

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    These ing idiots need to cut someone and bring in a competent PG. They need a competent PG to run the team and dribble the ball, and that can also hit an open shot.
    Absent that, the only hope is for Kawhi, when he returns, to pick up where he left off in last years' playoffs when he showed flashes of dynamic playmaking off the dribble from the Point Forward position..With Gay on board and Aldridge whining about touches, Leonard will probably have to sacrifice some of his scoring, but he is going to be averaging 5-7 assists per game if this team's offense to start rolling again (currently a pathetic 99.7 rating and bottom 5 in the league)....

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    We should have seen this coming when Pop couldn't take his mouth off of President Trump's a few weeks ago. His dumbass doesn't give a anymore.

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    I know ting on PATFO is going to become old hat because we all expected this, but seriously, this team has looked less athletic and with poor energy level (Lee, Dedmon, Simmons are missed in that department) when down in a hole than last year..How is that culture doing for ya? ..

    I will give them until Kawhi is back to judge, but they have looked worse in this 0-3 skid more so than impressive when they opened the season 4-0...
    To be fair, any team would be exposed without someone who can create shots for others. Granted, they've put themselves in a position where, of the 4 players they're relying on for that, 3 are either no longer good enough or not ready. I actually think they're more talented than given credit for when healthy: superstar, star, abundance of quality role players, is nothing to sneeze at . . . too bad it'll all be undone by the lack of so much as a competent starting PG and an archaic style.

    There's a lot of mixed messages coming from them. They talked about the need to get more athletic in '16, only to lose their 2 best athletes a year later. The roster hinted at versatility being their focus, yet they've tried to stay as traditional as possible when healthy. They pursued Paul and extended Aldridge because they want the best possible talent around Leonard during his prime, yet aren't rumored interested in Bledsoe, even though they more than likely have the pieces to get him.
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    8 teams ahead of the spurms in the WC right now

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    We should have seen this coming when Pop couldn't take his mouth off of President Trump's a few weeks ago. His dumbass doesn't give a anymore.
    Seriously. Pop speaking out on important social issues made Kawhi so mad, he jumped up and down and he hurt his quad. Thanks Pop

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    Dumb-ass folks thought the team was going to suck outside of Kawhi.
    After a nice start it seems like some Spurs players regressed to mean -which is exactly what those fans thought-.


    I wouldn't say the team is doing great either...

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    After a nice start it seems like some Spurs players regressed to mean -which is exactly what those fans thought-.


    I wouldn't say the team is doing great either...
    People keep telling 'Nook to stay off basketball takes but he won't listen smh

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    Spurs should have resigned Dedmon and Simmons (I was porbably the most vocal folk about not resigning Simmons in the offseason, but if you were going to commit all that money on Mills, Gasol and LA; you might as well resign Simmons, tbh), let Mills walk and not extend Gasol nor Aldridge, tbh.

    Could have had a roster of:

    Murray, Forbes, White/Tony
    Green , Manu, Paul
    Kawhi, Simmons, Anderson
    Aldridge, Gay, Bertans
    Gasol, Dedmon, Lauvergne

    And all the cap space in the World in a season, or two, to try and get that one or two pieces that are missing to trully challenge GS.

    Now we are stuck with a team that we know it's not good enough for, at least, the next three seasons. This isn't hindsight either (with the exception, in my case, of Simmons), this is what we were all asking for during the offseason (sans the pipe dreams of CP3 or Paul George).
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    Spurs should have resigned Dedmon and Simmons (I was porbably the most vocal folk about not resigning Simmons in the offseason, but if you were going to commit all that money on Mills, Gasol and LA; you might as well resign Simmons, tbh), let Mills walk and not extend Gasol nor Aldridge, tbh.

    Could have had a roster of:

    Murray, Forbes, White/Tony
    Green , Manu, Paul
    Kawhi, Simmons, Anderson
    Aldridge, Gay, Bertans
    Gasol, Dedmon, Lauvergne

    And all the cap space in the World in a season, or two, to try and get that one or two pieces that are missing to trully challenge GS.

    Now we are stuck with a team that we know it's not good enough for, at least, the next three seasons. This isn't hindsight either (with the exception, in my case, of Simmons), this is what we were all asking for during the offseason (sans the pipe dreams of CP3 or Paul George).
    In your scenario the 12:01 contract would have gone to Simmons which is the only way I think JSimms would have stayed. Spurs would have avoided sending the sheep into the wolf's den. Magic sold Simmons on a vision and role for himself that he wanted. However, prior to that, his agent was seeking trades for him, at least one of which got leaked out bc it was really close to getting agreed upon. It was leaked that once that trade didn't go through, that's when Simmons' agent asked to be released from the RFA status. So I think Simmons knew what he wanted and the Spurs didn't give it to him. He seemed to have wanted to move on anyways after that, unless he got the 12:01 deal.

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    Spurs should have resigned Dedmon and Simmons (I was porbably the most vocal folk about not resigning Simmons in the offseason, but if you were going to commit all that money on Mills, Gasol and LA; you might as well resign Simmons, tbh), let Mills walk and not extend Gasol nor Aldridge, tbh.

    Could have had a roster of:

    Murray, Forbes, White/Tony
    Green , Manu, Paul
    Kawhi, Simmons, Anderson
    Aldridge, Gay, Bertans
    Gasol, Dedmon, Lauvergne

    And all the cap space in the World in a season, or two, to try and get that one or two pieces that are missing to trully challenge GS.

    Now we are stuck with a team that we know it's not good enough for, at least, the next three seasons. This isn't hindsight either (with the exception, in my case, of Simmons), this is what we were all asking for during the offseason (sans the pipe dreams of CP3 or Paul George).

    This 100%

    Resigning Aldridge I suppose you could convince me but resigning Gasol and Mills was beyond stupid. I think letting Simmons go is almost going to hurt as much as Scola. I think with a bigger role and more consistent playing time Simmons is going to do great.

    I'm kind of worried about the Spurs lack of quality players but perhaps that should be saved for when Kawhi and TP comeback and then we can see how the team is.

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    In your scenario the 12:01 contract would have gone to Simmons which is the only way I think JSimms would have stayed. Spurs would have avoided sending the sheep into the wolf's den. Magic sold Simmons on a vision and role for himself that he wanted. However, prior to that, his agent was seeking trades for him, at least one of which got leaked out bc it was really close to getting agreed upon. It was leaked that once that trade didn't go through, that's when Simmons' agent asked to be released from the RFA status. So I think Simmons knew what he wanted and the Spurs didn't give it to him. He seemed to have wanted to move on anyways after that, unless he got the 12:01 deal.
    Meh, I could have done without him too, tbh. The biggest mistakes were comitting so much money, for so much time to Mills, Aldridge and Gasol. Players who are almost useless against GS.

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    People keep telling 'Nook to stay off basketball takes but he won't listen smh
    No . Chalk up another L for Nook.

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    And I'm preparing myself for the 30 millions/3 year contract Tony is going to get for his luxury retirement salary.

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    And I'm preparing myself for the 30 millions/3 year contract Tony is going to get for his luxury retirement salary.
    It's inevitable, tbh.

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    Seriously. Pop speaking out on important social issues made Kawhi so mad, he jumped up and down and he hurt his quad. Thanks Pop
    It shows he's lost focus. His racist ass thinks all black people look the same too.

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    And I'm preparing myself for the 30 millions/3 year contract Tony is going to get for his luxury retirement salary.
    10??? sheeeeit. He's getting more than that

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    PATFO need to fix the Pau and Mills situation ASAP. They have handicapped the future of the franchise.

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    PATFO need to fix the Pau and Mills situation ASAP. They have handicapped the future of the franchise.
    Damage done.
    Dumb pride convention that is Popped-RC in massive overpay of these two.
    Bidding against ourselves.

    Along with giving the bums rush to a couple real nigggggas like Dedmon and Simmons. One can debate forever on how good or not Sims and Ded are, but for the price they are >>>>>>>> Fatty and Gasoft.

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    Yeah. No fixing the Mills/Pau debacle now. The Spurs are stuck with them...Nor do they mind.

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    This thread

    SA didn't get better
    First round knockout
    Can't win without Kawhi
    Continuity means squat
    PATFO don't care anymore
    Kawhi wants to leave

    This is why we wait till games are played folks.
    This post gets better by the game

    Biggest PATFO dumpster on the forum. Only Dex and Bumkin come close

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    PATFO need to fix the Pau and Mills situation ASAP. They have handicapped the future of the franchise.
    PATFO must get fixed first, tbh.

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    This post gets better by the game

    Biggest PATFO dumpster on the forum. Only Dex and Bumkin come close
    Don't forget the stalker Jeffrey "tholdren" Dahmer.

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    Don't forget the stalker Jeffrey "tholdren" Dahmer.
    That stalking kept quoting me in the GT despite me never acknowledging him rofl...

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    PATFO need to fix the Pau and Mills situation ASAP. They have handicapped the future of the franchise.
    I don't think it's possible workout hamstringing the franchise in other ways. How many unprotected picks just to get off my Mills I wonder? And that doesn't even count for Pau.

    They've ruined Kawhi's prime with easily avoidable illogical nonsense.

    It's sad and unforgivable.

    They controlled their own destiny. They had all their picks. They had cap room coming up if they wanted. They had restricted rights on Simmons. They had proof of why they shouldn't sign Mills and Pau to those deals.

    But they screwed it all.

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