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    My bad sons. I forgot we had the centerpiece 2.0. How could I have expected Bertans to play over such an important player? I totally understand this guy not getting any playing time. There's just too much talent on this roster.

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    Stop bumping this thread. Was a terrible take then, it’s a terrible take now.

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    Stop bumping this thread. Was a terrible take then, it’s a terrible take now.
    Didn't you see what I'm saying?

    My bad sons. I forgot we had the centerpiece 2.0. How could I have expected Bertans to play over such an important player? I totally understand this guy not getting any playing time. There's just too much talent on this roster.
    I understand, tbh. The centerpiece 2.0. No way a 6'10" guy making half of his threes can ever compete with that. I mean, what we are doing is so clearly working out that I don't see any reason to change it.





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    Didn't you see what I'm saying?



    I understand, tbh. The centerpiece 2.0. No way a 6'10" guy making half of his threes can ever compete with that. I mean, what we are doing is so clearly working out that I don't see any reason to change it.





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    Start Bertans at SF... It's worth the experiment... Enough of this midget

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    Start Bertans at SF... It's worth the experiment... Enough of this midget
    He's too slow at SF. Cunningham is a better defender. Still, they need play B3rtans a lot more than this. He's decreased his defensive lapses, and we need fire power. Especially now that Gay is gonna sit out a lot.

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    Worse thing is I'm not even as high on Bertans as I used to be, but if you trully believe this guy can't get playing time over guys like Cunningham or Bellinelli you should really off yourself as a basketball watcher.

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    Bertans is severely flawed and shouldn't be anything more than a late rotation guy, but how can you keep playing Cunningham? He's barely an NBA player, just isn't worth it..

    I understanding wanting the feel of a conventional NBA starting unit by using a "defender" and a more traditional 3, but Cunningham doesn't actually provide anything..

    Bertans is an embarrassment as a rebounder and defender, but he's shooting 47% from 3..at least he possesses an NBA skill..

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    Didn't you see what I'm saying?

    I understand, tbh. The centerpiece 2.0. No way a 6'10" guy making half of his threes can ever compete with that. I mean, what we are doing is so clearly working out that I don't see any reason to change it.

    ing dumbass.
    You my niglet, but Bertans is just another middle of the road player... not starting material. I know the argument you're making now with this roster, but the original argument on this thread was flawed to being with, IMO.

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    You my niglet, but Bertans is just another middle of the road player... not starting material. I know the argument you're making now with this roster, but the original argument on this thread was flawed to being with, IMO.
    You my niglet too son. I'm just drunk right now.

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    Having guys that can go off hitting threes out of screens is such a game changer in today's NBA. That's why the Warriors with Curry and Thompson broke the NBA. That's why guys like JJ Red and even TOSB Korver are so important. We have a guy like that in Bertans, yet we barely call catch and shoot opportunities coming off screens for him. Instead we prefer to waste 18 seconds trying to post somebody up to end up shooting long fadeaway twos.
    For as many floating to the side bombs that Pop tolerates from Belinelli you would think he would at least run a few plays for Bertans to shoot off some screens

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    He's too slow at SF. Cunningham is a better defender. Still, they need play B3rtans a lot more than this. He's decreased his defensive lapses, and we need fire power. Especially now that Gay is gonna sit out a lot.
    Starting Cunningham and having Gay come off the bench makes Bertans the odd forward out in terms of minutes, unfortunately.

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    He's too slow at SF. Cunningham is a better defender. Still, they need play B3rtans a lot more than this. He's decreased his defensive lapses, and we need fire power. Especially now that Gay is gonna sit out a lot.
    Slower than Bellinelli?

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    You my niglet, but Bertans is just another middle of the road player... not starting material. I know the argument you're making now with this roster, but the original argument on this thread was flawed to being with, IMO.
    You my niglet too son. I'm just drunk right now.
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    Dude can't finish games even in a night like this. Good thing we had Cunningham in there for all those defensive stops he got on Giannis.

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    Was very high on Bertans but that ship has sailed still think he is an NBA player who could do well with the right team. Right now I want Pop to put him in situations were he can do well show case him and then trade him to move up in the draft or draft picks.

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    So let me get this straight, this guy comes off his best game of the season and he doesn't see the floor untill the 2nd quarter and plays only 12 minutes untill 6 minutes remaining in the game where Pop, afraid of losing against the tiest team in the league, throws him out there to save him.

    And yeah, I know he couldn't hit tonight, he still finished with the highest +/- in the team by far with +15 in only 18 minutes. That's the impact that shooters like Bertans have in the game, even when they're not hitting. If he gets the 25/30 minutes that he should be getting this is a way more comfortable win.

    And even if you don't agree with anything I said on the previous paragraph, you still have to agree that Bertans not seeing the floor untill the 2nd quarter after the 1st quarter he had vs Milwaukee is inexplicable and a disrespect that, at this point, borderlines bullying from Pop to Bertans.
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    So let me get this straight, this guy comes off his best game of the season and he doesn't see the floor untill the 2nd quarter and plays only 12 minutes untill 6 minutes remaining in the game where Pop, afraid of losing against the tiest team in the league, throws him out there to save him.

    And yeah, I know he couldn't hit tonight, he still finished with the highest +/- in the team by far with +15 in only 18 minutes. That's the impact that shooters like Bertans have in the game, even when they're not hitting. If he gets the 25/30 minutes that he should be getting this is a way more comfortable win.

    And even if you don't agree with anything I said on the previous paragraph, you still have to agree that Bertans not seeing the floor untill the 2nd quarter after the 1st quarter he had vs Milwaukee is inexplicable and a disrespect that borderlines bullying from Pop to Bertans.
    Lol. I completely disagree and think he deserved to get benched today. What has Bertans done all season with his minutes but get bullied on defense and bullied on boxouts? Today he was just a little out of sync with the gaurds. He spread the floor well and played ok but the gaurds were holding down the offense so it was better to play more Jakob. Cunningham, and etc.. over Bertans. He does need to keep seeing time but he is no where near a 30 mpg guy.

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    Lol. I completely disagree and think he deserved to get benched today. What has Bertans done all season with his minutes but get bullied on defense and bullied on boxouts? Today he was just a little out of sync with the gaurds. He spread the floor well and played ok but the gaurds were holding down the offense so it was better to play more Jakob. Cunningham, and etc.. over Bertans. He does need to keep seeing time but he is no where near a 30 mpg guy.
    So you also think it was OK for Bertans to not play in the 1st quarter after he had 11 pts in the 1st quarter of the previous game?

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    i don't understand why they re-signed him at the price they did if they aren't going to play him. if he's knocking in more than 45% of his threes, there isn't really a good reason to give marco SF minutes over bertans

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    So you also think it was OK for Bertans to not play in the 1st quarter after he had 11 pts in the 1st quarter of the previous game?
    He had one good game. You are complaining about 1 qtr? Like I said, all season he has been getting killed defensively and out rebounded badly. He got his shot in the 2nd. Ultimately it's all about lineups. If he starts that means Cunningham has to start anyway. Cunningham only one with the mobility and physicality to compliment our weak defenders. Bertans has to outplay Rudy. Rudy is starting to fade so Bertans might get his shot sooner rather than later but he has to perform too because Rudy is a great rebounder and 1 on 1 player.

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    He had one good game. You are complaining about 1 qtr? Like I said, all season he has been getting killed defensively and out rebounded badly. He got his shot in the 2nd. Ultimately it's all about lineups. If he starts that means Cunningham has to start anyway. Cunningham only one with the mobility and physicality to compliment our weak defenders. Bertans has to outplay Rudy. Rudy is starting to fade so Bertans might get his shot sooner rather than later but he has to perform too because Rudy is a great rebounder and 1 on 1 player.
    You are missing the point. Everytime Bertans seems to make a move forwards in terms of building his confidence, Pop does something to bring it right back down.

    You don't understand psychology if you don't think that the guy, after seeing the minutes go by, is not thinking: "what the ? Why I'm not in yet? The quarter is about to finish. Am I in the doghouse again?" All that s with your psyche and it translates to your game.

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    Bertans was on the concussion protocol. Even after he's cleared it's still a good idea to be careful. Also, it appeared he got hit in the face in the game tonight.

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    You are missing the point. Everytime Bertans seems to make a move forwards in terms of building his confidence, Pop does something to bring it right back down.

    You don't understand psychology if you don't think that the guy, after seeing the minutes go by, is not thinking: "what the ? Why I'm not in yet? The quarter is about to finish. Am I in the doghouse again?" All that s with your psyche and it translates to your game.
    I know what you mean but Bertans is a vet now. His ceiling is not as high as you may think. His skill set is limited although what he does have he does do well. I am more worried about White but today was a step in the right direction for him. I felt Bertans and White clashing a bit, not quite on the same page, it is more essential for White to get playing time at this point. Bertans confidence is fine tbh. It's just whether it makes sense to play him.

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