After reading this,
it almost makes me wish SA had just told FEMA
"Keep those ingratefull assholes"
I started to feel that way whena member of the great city of New Orleans, stated that the facilities in the Houston Astrodome were "Subpar" and that he "Demanded 20 thousand dollars, a new job and house"
Come on Hardberger, get it done.
Bring the Saints here. This whole situation has brought an extreme distaste for the city and the people of New Orleans.
They are the most ungratefull, and most shortminded, and most forgetfull people, since the french in 1945.
That is a stupid refetence.
Cities hsve been "awarded" franchises from all major sports and some have moved....if the cities "owned" them, they would never have been able to move.
New Orleans...in fact....did it to Charlotte....so now you are mad it is happening to you.
hahahah...thats terrific, thats terrific
Charlotte had a team already awarded to them before the Hornets left. They wanted Shinn out of the city so bad they practically ran him out of town.
This situation is completely different.
I'm sorry you feel this way.
I have thanked many people for helping out after the disaster and I am still appreciative for what everyone across the country has done. I regret that one person at the Astrodome was able to create so much disdain for N.O. and the people that live here.
The way that S.A. has handled the situation with the Saints since the storm has made me want to say to the NFL.
"get rid of those insensitive assholes"
I started feeling that way when the Mayor of S.A. stated publicly that he wanted the Saints to stay in S.A. "permanently". In the middle of the season just 7 weeks after the disaster.
This whole situation has brought extreme distaste for the city and people of SA.
They are the most insensitive, gready, short minded, and forgetfull people since the french in 1945.
Caught you in a lie.This whole situation has brought extreme distaste for the city and people of SA.
You had said in previous posts that you were upset with the government of SA but you liked the city and were not mad at the people, except those with the SA Saints signs.
Busted.
Party pooper.
I was drawing a parrelel between what the previous poster said and how the people of NO could feel the same way about the people of SA for similar reasons.
I am not saying I dislike the people of SA. I am comparing how the feelings between the 2 cities could be mutual because of the points the poster I was responding to pointed out.
My post was more tounge in cheek than anything. If you still feel like you caught me in a lie then so be it. But read the post I was responding to and then read the response and you should see a resemblance.
I read the post and see a resemblance but that doesn't mean you don't feel that way...until you indicated otherwise in your more recent post.
I didn't say that I don't feel that way in that particular post. I will reiterate that I have nothing against the people of San Antonio. I have a problem with they way the poeple of SA's mayor has approached the situation (especially if he isn't willing to build a new stadium).
T Park stated that he has great dislike for the people of N.O. because of what one (idiot) person said. My statements were only top point at that the same thing could be said about the people of SA because of what their mayor said.
That is not what you said first.....You implied that a team should stay if the city is awarded a franchise becasue the city owned them.....you included no exceptions until someone called you on it. The Bobcats weren't really a thought until after the fact. Sure there was speculation but that is all.
You implied a team should stay in a particular city because it was "awarded" a team....if that is the case the Cardinal would dtill be in Chicago, the Jazz would still be in New Orleans (your city never supported them either).
The Radiers would never have left Oakland in the first place.
The NBA Kings would still be in Cincinnati or Rochester.
The Expos would still be Montreal.
The Grizzlies would still be in Vancouver.
You say that there are more importnat matter for New Orelans right...that is very true....but you have a fit if a hometown team were to leave. I woukld be more upset at the some of the businesses that are sure to leave. Those athat are still there....many of them have no job to go too still and you are worrying about the Saints? You need to get your priorities in line before you come a berate those in others cities that you feel have disrepected your city. The Saints should at the bottom of the list right now for you.
NO was not the greatest when it came to supporting the Saints.
You want to critisize Benson?...fine. Before he bought the team they were ALWAYS LOSING.....after he bought them they have at least made the playoffs a couple of times and still the people of New Orleans couldn't fill the Superdome....they were in the bottom 5 of attendance for last several years.
I would much rather see New Orleans spend the millions on improving the levees, a better pumping system, rebuild schools, roads, and the general utilities first so the chances of this happening again are lessened. you want to and moan about the Saints while the cities infrastruce crumbles around you? You want your cake and eat too?
Hornets were looking to move, New Orleans said we want you here before any deal was in place. Seems like the same.Charlotte had a team already awarded to them before the Hornets left. They wanted Shinn out of the city so bad they practically ran him out of town.
This situation is completely different.
I wouldn't have to and moan about the Saints if SA's mayor wasn't running his mouth 7 weeks after Katrina.
The N.O. Saints are a business in Louisiana...just like any other. As a matter of fact they are one of the most important. Just ask your mayor why he wants them so bad.
Oh and the city of NO has never had a problem supporting the Saints. NO has maintained support for this team even though we are historically one of the worst teams in the NFL. If you measure attendance as compared to wins and losses NO would probably be #1 in attendance over the past 38 years.
I never said NO owned the Saints. I said the city was awarded the team. I don't think something awarded to something or somebody should be taken away. I never said NO was right for taking the Hornets and I don't particularly know if NO we did the right thing, I just know Charlotte has a team.
The Saints are one if the most important businesses? The Saints should be rather low on the list of priorities right now. You will have all this money coming in to help your city rebuild and you are worried about the Saints? I would be more worried about the levees being rebuilt to try to prevent this in the future, along with updating the pumping stations to a more viable pumping capacity. You should be worrying about the infrastrucure of the city (schools, police, fire, hospitals, etc)before you worry about professional sports teams' facilities. If it happened here and the spurs were to leave, I would be upset but would also understand that it is a business and they are doing what they feel is best for that business.
You haven't fill the dome in the last several years (you have been in the bottom 5 of the NFL capacity-wise)when all was well and good and now when they are on the verge of leaving you complain? It is like a couple who argues and when one says I'm leaving...the other says please don't....I promise I'll love you. The Fans in New Orleans seem to have taken the saints for granted in many ways. What were to happen if Benson were to suddenly sell the team...he has said offers have been made...and those new owners decide to move the team to San Antonio (or elsewhere) anyways?
I have no problem if the Saints stay in New Orleans, that would be best...if the city can support them, which they have been iffy at best.
I just think your priorities are skewed.
There are plenty of things to worry about in LA right now, I am aware of this. We are working on the levees, schools, etc. If it wasn't for SA's mayor we would be able to concetrate more on the other things right now. Rather than trying to fight for our team to enjoy after we rebuild the infastructure. In order for things to return to how they were (which is what rebuilding is all about right?) the Saints must be a part of N.O.
Here is a recent study to back up why we are concerned about losing the Saints.
Importance of Saints to N.O.
Since 2001 the N.O. Saints have been no where near the bottom 5 in attendance. I don't know where you get your numbers from but you are misinformed. Click on each year to see the attendance numbers. Figure in that we have one of the worst records in NFL history and I would say that support has been way better than "iffy" for a "small market" team.
NFL Attendance
I think you should be worrying about the what the city is going to do with its infrastructure instead of worrying about a sports franchise.
Worrying about the mayor of another city over a sports team's location is pathetic.
If you keep tthe Saints but have too few hospitals, schools, police and fire protection, better levees, high pumping capacity,etc. don't come ing to us for sympathy. This is the time to start from almost scratch and get it right, the Saints shoild be way down on the list. I have been seening reports thst many of the state politicians are upset that the priorities of many elected officials are back asswards.
When rebuilding a city...professional sports should be at or near the bottom of the list of things to do.
There is work being done on the infrastructure daily. I am worried about this...I don't see where I ever said the Saints were more important than the schools, power lines, pumps, levees etc. I think the Saints are important to the future vitality of the city. The goal is to not just rebuild the infrastructure (that would be silly) it is to rebuild the entire city including but not limited to the Saints.I think you should be worrying about the what the city is going to do with its infrastructure instead of worrying about a sports franchise.
I would go one step further and say that a mayor of another city publically courting a team from a city devasted from a natural disaster in the middle of the season is even more pathetic.Worrying about the mayor of another city over a sports team's location is pathetic.
Besides I think your statement is absured...what are we supposed to do? Just ignore the whole situation and not worry about it? Please re-read the link above regarding the impact of the Saints on NO and LA. I cannot grasp how it is pathetic to worry about this situation when everything mentioned in that study is at stake.
That is funny I have seen many of the state politicians saying that the priorities and methods of many elected officials in SA have been back asswards too.I have been seening reports thst many of the state politicians are upset that the priorities of many elected officials are back asswards.
tgrg, give it up, you're speaking on a subject we can't control. Your little fest is useless.
Just leave and go post at SaintsReport.com
I'm sure they'd love you to no end there.
Totally agree that hospitals, schools and police are a priority.
Then again, it appears that Dallas is NOT hiring police that they think deserted their posts.
Pity that Hamburgler and his new bum-buddy don't have the same decency, which necessitates these responses from New Orleans.
Yes, in truth the Saints are one of the State's most important businesses. That's why they get funded by the state to stay. That's a very long story and I don't have the time to link everything in to show how complicated the relationship is. You'll just have to take my word for it.
However, the point you make about priorites is more important than anything else. There are a ton of jobs in New Orleans paying very well for the clean-up and rebuilding. There are not as many persons working as they need. For instance, they have a team to remove dead cars from the city. They take about 100 a day. At this rate, it will take 3 years to remove all the cars. They need many more teams just to do that. That's the tip of the iceburg. A friend of mine called Thursday from Covington. He changed jobs and now is trying to clean-up there, but the workers are outnumbered. The tasks are so daunting. Not enough people to really put a dent in it. More locals need to get with it.
Tag is going to push for a resolution, IMHO, as soon as the Super Bowl is over. He'll have time to devote to this issue then. If New Orleans isn't getting it's act together, they will lose the team. The Dome or some other place has to be ready or the whole notion of them coming back is history, first and foremost. It would be nice if the people of New Orleans would look to their neighbors and work together to keep the team close. Once they go to The City of Angels, it's all over but the crying.
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