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The data is pretty compelling. Access to abortion = fewer deaths.
No wonder the people cheering for this are Thread the tired cuck and his woman-hating incel brigade (Qhris, Nathan, Millenial Messiah)
Let's make a deal:
Make it federal law that abortion and marijuana is legal in all 50 states and cannot be a civil or criminal penalty. In exchange, abolish the 19th Amendment and impose a federal tax of 15% on marijuana and provide no federal funding to abortions / planned parenthood (must all be funded by donations, customers, and/or local govts).
Deal?
The data is pretty compelling. Access to abortion = fewer deaths.
No wonder the people cheering for this are Thread the tired cuck and his woman-hating incel brigade (Qhris, Nathan, Millenial Messiah)
Ehh correlation causation...The data is pretty compelling. Access to abortion = fewer deaths.
No wonder the people cheering for this are Thread the tired cuck and his woman-hating incel brigade (Qhris, Nathan, Millenial Messiah)
I mean, it's also, 50+ years of medical advances
Let's make a deal:
Make it federal law that abortion and marijuana is legal in all 50 states and cannot be a civil or criminal penalty. In exchange, abolish the 19th Amendment and impose a federal tax of 15% on marijuana and provide no federal funding to abortions / planned parenthood (must all be funded by donations, customers, and/or local govts).
Deal?
look at how quickly it fell. not sure medical advances explain the drop before 1975.
Doctors resented the compe ion from midwives and folk healers as well.
At the time of the founding and throughout the 19th century, abortion before quickening (~16 weeks) was legal almost everywhere, even where legal restrictions on abortion existed.
The movement to ban abortion outright in the US is a distinctively 20th/21st century movement.
https://daily.jstor.org/the-history-...on-in-america/The first time abortion was criminalized in the United States was in the mid-nineteenth century. Nicola Beisel and Tamara Kay write thata key factor in the anti-abortion arguments of that time was that too many native-born white women were ending their pregnancies, opening the door for the country to be overrun by fertile foreigners.
Beisel and Kay write that nineteenth-century doctors, who led the fight for anti-abortion laws, saw ending a pregnancy as anathema to women’s role in the world. Anti-abortion leader Hortio Storer wrote that woman was “what she is in health, in character, in her charms, alike of body, mind and soul because of her womb alone.”
Abortion, the doctors argued, was very likely to be fatal, or at least to drive a woman insane. Beisel and Kay note that it certainly was a scary and painful procedure at the time, but that historians have found it was still safer than childbirth. Many doctors were opposed to contraceptives as well, seeing any sexual relationship in which conception was prevented as a form of pros ution.
And yet, women—white, middle-class women in particular—were clearly avoiding having children. Doctors’ writings expressed horror at the contrast between the declining fertility of native-born Anglo-Saxon women and the large families of Irish Catholics and other immigrants. Of ten abortion-related books and tracts directed to the public that Beisel and Kay found at the Library of Congress, six included warnings about the potential demise of the Anglo-Saxon race, and two others alluded to the different fertility rates of Protest and Catholic families.
Right, medical advances like access to abortion.
Lol leaking from the outside?
".....By 1959, a leading researcher wrote: “Abortion is no longer a dangerous procedure. This applies not just to therapeutic abortions as performed in hospitals but also to so-called illegal abortions as done by physicians. In 1957, there were only 260 deaths in the whole country attributed to abortions of any kind. In New York City in 1921, there were 144 abortion deaths, in 1951 there were only 15.”...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ar-before-roe/
I'm not willing to die on this hill because I don't know enough. I just don't think that chart includes everything either.
the number nine appears nowhere in the US Cons ution.
since there's no longer any doubt SCOTUS is a political ins ution captured by one of the major parties -- a coequal sovereign, no less -- non-Republicans should start treating it like one too.
the assertion that access to legal abortion was key to reduced mortality is undeniably supported by the graph.
(shrugs)
hadn't heard this wrinkle before
https://sciencehistory.org/distillat...wade-v-rubellaIn the 1960s a rubella epidemic swept the United States and panicked every pregnant woman in the country. Rubella, also called German measles, is a disease we hardly remember anymore, but it’s the “R” in the MMR vaccine. Though the virus is relatively harmless for most people, when contracted during pregnancy, it can severely harm the developing fetus. During the epidemic many pregnant women who may have never identified as abortion-rights advocates suddenly found themselves seeking abortions and dismantling barriers to access.
You be sure to tell all the women you want ot have sex with that they shouldn't have the right to vote.The 19th Amendment guarantees American women the right to vote. Achieving this milestone required a lengthy and difficult struggle; victory took decades of agitation. Beginning in the mid-19th century, woman suffrage supporters lectured, wrote, marched, lobbied, and practiced civil disobedience to achieve what many Americans considered radical change.
You are going to be single for the rest of your life. Sad.
1/10
bigoted tone makes entire joke die, stillborn.
not one of your better efforts.
63 million babies killed in the womb since Roe.
Wow, abortion-related deaths are down to 100,000.41 per 100,000
The biological fact that is undeniable and completely turned-a-blind-eye to is that males and females are drastically different and that while men and women both have functioning brains, the way men use them and the way that women use them are drastically different. Obviously, there are exceptions in every case, but you have to make the utilitarian decision based on the hard data. Females wear their hearts on their sleeves and therefore should not be decision makers in any way. Males vote analytically and practically, i.e. voting with their brain, while females vote with their hearts, i.e. voting on all the wrong issues and are easily influenced and gullible by irrelevant issues that do not have a long term importance to the continuous improvement of the whole of society, freedom and individualism and a strong country and economy. Females are NOT quality decision makers and voting for elected officials is perhaps the biggest decision one can make in any society that includes a government. Females are biologically inferior to males in every which way, but most especially in terms of practical decision science; therefore, they should not be equally responsible for voting and determining who should be elected to govern the nation, at all levels (federal, state and local).
That said, I do NOT support abolishing any of the 1865 Post-Civil War Lincoln Civil Rights Amendments (13th-15th)... because there is no biological evidence that any non-white man is more or less inferior to the white man. All men are created equal, and should have the equal right to vote for leaders who govern at all levels.
Trust the science.
So you deny the right to an abortion and want kids to have to get jobs to pay for their housing, food, transportation, etc?
Abortion was legal in 19 states before Roe if there were already health threat concerns with the mother.
I think legal abortion helped to be sure, but it's a bit disingenuous to base it all on that graph
Last edited by Blake; 05-04-2022 at 01:05 PM.
Abortion doctors in Canada and Mexico must be celebrating the pending windfall.
Last edited by Desert Spur; 05-04-2022 at 02:38 PM.
If you're done with the NBA, why are you posting on a sports forum? Do you not appreciate how sad this is?
didn't seem to me that's what was claimed.
(shrugs)
What's the claim then that I'm missing?
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