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From CNN:
The bill -- led the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act -- was released by Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona and Republican Sens. John Cornyn of Texas and Thom Tillis of North Carolina.
The Senate's compromise legitimation on gun safety includes millions of dollars in investments in mental health, school safety, crisis intervention programs and incentives for states to include juvenile records in the National Instant Criminal Background Check system.
It comes after the release earlier this month of an agreement in principle for a deal on bipartisan gun legislation, which notably had the backing of 10 Republican senators. At least 10 Republican senators will need to join with Democrats to back any gun bill for it to overcome a filibuster and pass in the Senate.
Mitch approvesFrom CNN:
The bill -- led the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act -- was released by Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona and Republican Sens. John Cornyn of Texas and Thom Tillis of North Carolina.
The Senate's compromise legitimation on gun safety includes millions of dollars in investments in mental health, school safety, crisis intervention programs and incentives for states to include juvenile records in the National Instant Criminal Background Check system.
It comes after the release earlier this month of an agreement in principle for a deal on bipartisan gun legislation, which notably had the backing of 10 Republican senators. At least 10 Republican senators will need to join with Democrats to back any gun bill for it to overcome a filibuster and pass in the Senate.
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Let's get this out of the wayFrom CNN:
The bill -- led the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act -- was released by Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona and Republican Sens. John Cornyn of Texas and Thom Tillis of North Carolina.
The Senate's compromise legitimation on gun safety includes millions of dollars in investments in mental health, school safety, crisis intervention programs and incentives for states to include juvenile records in the National Instant Criminal Background Check system.
It comes after the release earlier this month of an agreement in principle for a deal on bipartisan gun legislation, which notably had the backing of 10 Republican senators. At least 10 Republican senators will need to join with Democrats to back any gun bill for it to overcome a filibuster and pass in the Senate.
"Doesn't count because they didn't ban guns" - DMC
It's a start, though. More than we've gotten in 30+ years.
Lazy nihilism loses, love to see it -- if the Senate comes through.
Nothing on gun control. This is people control. AR-15s and high capacity magazines untouched.From CNN:
The bill -- led the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act -- was released by Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona and Republican Sens. John Cornyn of Texas and Thom Tillis of North Carolina.
The Senate's compromise legitimation on gun safety includes millions of dollars in investments in mental health, school safety, crisis intervention programs and incentives for states to include juvenile records in the National Instant Criminal Background Check system.
It comes after the release earlier this month of an agreement in principle for a deal on bipartisan gun legislation, which notably had the backing of 10 Republican senators. At least 10 Republican senators will need to join with Democrats to back any gun bill for it to overcome a filibuster and pass in the Senate.
You already know. It's not a gun control law. It's funding for security (as I said) and mental health (as I said). The juvenile records would have to be unsealed so you are no longer relieved of your juvenile acts now, which will affect mostly minorities.
It's easy to predict someone will point out your failure, especially when you celebrate it as a win
Chuncko is so predictable!
Washington (CNN)The Senate's compromise legislation on gun safety unveiled on Tuesday, potentially the most significant new federal gun safety measure in decades, includes money for school safety, mental health, state crisis intervention programs and incentives for states to include juvenile records in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, which would provide a more compressive background check for those between the ages of 18 and 21 who want to buy guns.
The highly anticipated legislation follows days of haggling by lawmakers over several sticking points that had raised questions over whether the negotiations would fall apart.
Earlier this month, a bipartisan group of senators had released an agreement in principle for a deal on bipartisan gun legislation, which notably had the backing of 10 Republican senators. At least 10 Republican senators will need to join Democrats in supporting the bill for it to overcome a filibuster and pass in the Senate.
Here is a breakdown of what's in the bill.
$750 million to help states implement and run crisis intervention programs
This money can be used to implement and manage red flag programs, which are aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of those who pose a threat to themselves or others. It also can be used for other crisis intervention programs like mental health courts, drug courts and veteran courts.
Whether the money could be used for things other than red flag laws was a primary sticking point at the end of the negotiations, and Republicans were able to secure money for states that don't have red flag laws but have other crisis intervention programs.
Closing the so-called boyfriend loophole
This legislation closes a years-old loophole in domestic violence law that barred individuals who had been convicted of domestic violence crimes against spouses, or partners with whom they shared children or cohabitated with, from having guns. Old statutes didn't include intimate partners who may not live together, be married or share children. The new bill would bar anyone who is convicted of a domestic violence crime against someone they have a "continuing serious relationship of a romantic or intimate nature" with from having a gun. The provision isn't retroactive.
The bill, however, would allow those convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence crimes to restore their gun rights after five years if they haven't committed other crimes.
Requires more gun sellers to register as Federally Licensed Firearm Dealers
The bill goes after individuals who sell guns as primary sources of income but have previously evaded registering as Federally Licensed Firearm Dealers. This is significant because federally licensed dealers are required to administer background checks before they sell a gun to someone.
More thorough reviews of people ages 18-21 who want to buy guns
The bill encourages states to include juvenile records in the National Instant Criminal Background Check system with grants, as well as implement a new protocol for checking those records. It gives NICS three days to review an individual's record. If something potentially disqualifying comes up, NICS gets an additional seven days. If the review is not completed by then, the gun transfer goes through.
Creates new federal statutes against gun trafficking and straw trafficking
The legislation makes it easier to go after those who are buying guns for individuals who are not allowed to purchase weapons on their own.
Increases funding for mental health programs and school security
This money is directed to a series of programs, many of which already exist but would be funded more robustly under the new law.
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This legislation largely reflects what was in the bipartisan framework last week, but includes some additional changes. The next major lift will be ensuring the 10 Republicans who backed the initial framework are still on board with the bill now that the text has been unveiled.
Where in this bill is a single example of a change that would have prevented the shooting in Uvalde? The "encourages" part of the bill is toothless. It's always encouraged to be thorough. Where's the teeth in the bill?
Not even gun control. You're calling a 2 point shot a 3 point shot, and then saying "in before someone says that's not a 3 pointer because you were under the basket".
Chuncko is so predictable!
What is predictable is the actual outcome from the left. I predicted it days ago.
You look more like hater with this “you called it.”Not even gun control. You're calling a 2 point shot a 3 point shot, and then saying "in before someone says that's not a 3 pointer because you were under the basket".
What is predictable is the actual outcome from the left. I predicted it days ago.
Take your “L” and move on Chuncko.
24/7 responder telling someone to move onYou look more like hater with this “you called it.”
Take your “L” and move on Chuncko.
You already said in this thread there'd be no meaningful change. There's been no meaningful change, and there's been no new laws passed.
called it.
Same. Called the response as well.
Nobody thought otherwise
Sure was a lot of talking about the original post for "nobody thought otherwise".
Who thought otherwise
This is gun control.
This is gun control.Requires more gun sellers to register as Federally Licensed Firearm Dealers
The bill goes after individuals who sell guns as primary sources of income but have previously evaded registering as Federally Licensed Firearm Dealers. This is significant because federally licensed dealers are required to administer background checks before they sell a gun to someone.
This is gun control.More thorough reviews of people ages 18-21 who want to buy guns
The bill encourages states to include juvenile records in the National Instant Criminal Background Check system with grants, as well as implement a new protocol for checking those records. It gives NICS three days to review an individual's record. If something potentially disqualifying comes up, NICS gets an additional seven days. If the review is not completed by then, the gun transfer goes through.
This is gun control.Creates new federal statutes against gun trafficking and straw trafficking
The legislation makes it easier to go after those who are buying guns for individuals who are not allowed to purchase weapons on their own.
Increases funding for mental health programs and school security
This money is directed to a series of programs, many of which already exist but would be funded more robustly under the new law.
Goalpost move. You should have led the thread "Countdown to Gun Bans" or "Countdown to Laws that Prevent Another Uvalde," but you didn't (probably because you've already done threads about gun bans.)Where in this bill is a single example of a change that would have prevented the shooting in Uvalde? The "encourages" part of the bill is toothless. It's always encouraged to be thorough. Where's the teeth in the bill?
But at least now you've cornered yourself into the position of celebrating the next Uvalde and gloating that it's the left's fault for not forcing through more aggressive gun laws, as ridiculous a position as that may be, so don't stop buying those pom-poms!
Laughable take. Quote one person who was convinced Democrats would be able to ram aggressive gun bans through an uncooperative Republican congress.
You guys are repeating what the left has been saying for years and congratulating yourselves for that take being correct.
I guess it's progress that you've moved from "We don't need gun control" to "We need gun control but it's the Democrats' fault we're not getting it." First step is acknowledging a problem, even if you're retrofitting it into another cheerleading session.
The left, Choppin’ wood! Oiling up that slippery slope! We’re coming for those semi autos!
Here comes DMC Semantics time to define what he meant by gun control and how he still wins the internets
He must love being bukkaked.
Clearly, all guns in Texas should be banned…. Because only criminals use them. Lol!!!!!!!
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