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    Well will know by Thursday, won’t we?

    If you ask me, I’d swap Murray with Simmons and maybe add fillers like J-Rich/McDermont. Let Simmons revive his career in San Antonio, then get Turner or Ayton.

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    Morey could’ve had Murray than Harden. I think either team would like Murray as a young defensive who can help facilitate.

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    Well will know by Thursday, won’t we?

    If you ask me, I’d swap Murray with Simmons and maybe add fillers like J-Rich/McDermont. Let Simmons revive his career in San Antonio, then get Turner or Ayton.
    Thank God you are not in charge of anything

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    Thank God you are not in charge of anything
    Well that’s just my take. For now everybody’s just speculating. So that’s that

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    Well will know by Thursday, won’t we?

    If you ask me, I’d swap Murray with Simmons and maybe add fillers like J-Rich/McDermont. Let Simmons revive his career in San Antonio, then get Turner or Ayton.
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    How many posts can John B fit on one page?

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    If you bring up Johnny Davis and ask him how much he wants to trade DJ, the answer is 999.

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    Is it just me or is this trade talk insane? Why spend 6 years developing a guy at the most difficult position in the NBA, get him to All-Star level on a great contract with 2 years left, then trade him and reset everything just as your team is improving and has a ton of great young players you've developed? Trading Dejounte would be going to full tank mode, and then you have to say to the guys you've spent all this time not tanking with, now we want you to lose. Or you haver to trade them. None of that makes a bit of sense to me.

    What I saw from the SPurs last season was improvement but an inability to finish games because we didn't have a #1 scoring option any more - Dejounte is a fine #2/3, but he's not a #1. And given that, seems to me you prioritise getting that #1 guy by sending out some assets other than Dejounte and seeing just how good the team can be.

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    I have a feeling that DJM was told that the Spurs will go on rebuild through draft and not going to sign any big names, and he wants out. The Spurs are going to get as much FRP’s unprotected for him and roll with 2023 draft which promises to be deep.

    Personally they should’ve done this 5 years ago. We’ll soon all find out. But I got a feeling we’re rolling with the same guys folks

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    Is it just me or is this trade talk insane? Why spend 6 years developing a guy at the most difficult position in the NBA, get him to All-Star level on a great contract with 2 years left, then trade him and reset everything just as your team is improving and has a ton of great young players you've developed? Trading Dejounte would be going to full tank mode, and then you have to say to the guys you've spent all this time not tanking with, now we want you to lose. Or you haver to trade them. None of that makes a bit of sense to me.

    What I saw from the SPurs last season was improvement but an inability to finish games because we didn't have a #1 scoring option any more - Dejounte is a fine #2/3, but he's not a #1. And given that, seems to me you prioritise getting that #1 guy by sending out some assets other than Dejounte and seeing just how good the team can be.
    Because DJ is not worth the Max contract, but can get 4 FRP’s possibly minimal protection that could reset. I think Primo is being groomed and Spurs will follow his timeline.

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    So Lonnie is staying unless he gets a ridiculous offer.

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    If you bring up Johnny Davis and ask him how much he wants to trade DJ, the answer is 999.
    ill take the over and dont get him started on poodle

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    Freaking sucks. Well ST will get its wish.
    Primo, Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, Zollins
    Poeltl should be traded soon.
    That should guarantee a top 3 pick

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    Yeah, so we wait another 3 years for Primo to even approach Dejounte (is Primo even a PG?), by which time all the guys you've just spent 3 years developing are on expensive contracts or gone. What is the point? This would be getting half way to where you want to be then going back to square one.

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    Again, imo, if things were truly close heading into draft I don’t see how it doesn’t get done honestly. The calls and interest are coming and teams won’t miss out on getting a young all star over pick protections.

    Someone will cave (just my 2c)
    Don't think it's a question of caving, who even has 4 1st round no to lightly protected picks to give? Only two teams I can think of is OKC and Houston, so if they are not involved then I don't know where a team would get those picks from. And they won't be involved cause both are trying to out tank the spurs.

    I also haven't seen anything for years as far as the draft picks go. If they want all 4 of those picks to be within the next 2 years then pretty much impossible if you don't get okc or houston involved.

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    And btw, there is absolutely no "guarantee" of anything in the draft any more - a full tank gets you a 14% chance at #1. Whoop-di-do-dah.

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    IF the spurs are giving serious consideration to trading Dejounte, I have no problem with that but they've got to leverage the situation to the best of their abilities and get the maximum return. We are under no pressure to trade Dejounte now, not with him having 2 more years on his contract. We can still trade him from now until next summer and not lose much if any leverage at all. So I hope they are doing their best to get a ransom from whichever teams are interested, and there should be quite a few. The Hawks don't attract me much as a fan because they project to be decent and have no super young players or expected lottery draft picks that would make a deal a no brainer. Other thank Okongwu there is nothing to excite the Spurs there, and even Okongwu while a beast on defense and highly athletic, isn't your so called modern day big man who can shoot or spread the floor. Even if ATL offered unprotected first round picks they would project to be in the 15-20 range, if not more. This would apply to most teams who might be interested in Dejounte as he should improve any team he goes to such as Minnesota, NYK, Washington, etc... This means the best possible deals might come from a 3-way deal where the spurs can get a better treasure of assets.

    Finally, if we do trade Dejounte then I see no reason to keep the likes of Poeltl, J-rich, or even McDermott and they should be traded before the season starts too. Play the young guys (Primo, Tre, Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, Branham, Wesley, Jock, Collins, and any young guys acquired via the other trades) and let them gain experience, and in the meantime lose a bunch of games and try to get a few top picks in 2023 via the trades and Spurs own first round pick.

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    i have not followed the discussion around the Murray trade rumors ... but with so many failed star combos in the NBA how do Young/Murray play together effectively?

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    Heres what the insider on the Hawks board has to say


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    Heres what the insider on the Hawks board has to say

    Good. Love that the Spurs are unrelenting in their demands and building up the bidding war. Should come to a head soon,.as I'm sure they want to have a direction by the start of free agency.

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    So Lonnie is staying unless he gets a ridiculous offer.
    No? Where on earth did you get that thought? They LITERALLY just drafted not one, but TWO replacements for his timid ass.

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    i have not followed the discussion around the Murray trade rumors ... but with so many failed star combos in the NBA how do Young/Murray play together effectively?
    Not our problem, and frankly, I don’t care if it implodes.

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    Heres what the insider on the Hawks board has to say

    Haha it actually sounds like he and Spurstalk are in agreement; not happening unless a massive overpay.

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