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    Hhhmmm...no word on Fox extension yet?

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    i dont think a giannis trade is happening. i dont think the bucks stretch lillard and push for myles turner if they were also planning to move giannis.

    with that said, if the spurs were trading for a 30 year old giannis still in his prime, i think they'd keep fox. they'd move vassell/harper/castle and picks to get it done. its what the bucks would demand and rightfully so. giannis is an all-timer still in his prime who plays both sides of the ball at elite levels.

    the spurs would be built around the ridiculous vertical gravity of fox/giannis/wemby, and would just need to figure out a how to get a couple of shooters to round it out.

    a bucks team blowing it up isnt going to want the biggest return of the giannis trade to be a 27 year old point guard making 40+ mil while the rest of the roster is being rebuilt from the ground up
    There isn't a 30+ year old in the league I would trade Vassell/HARPER/CASTLE/AND multiple picks for. Any combo of Wesley/Branham/Vassell/Keldon/Sochan/Barnes and as many picks as they want but that's all I would even entertain. Castle I would have to think long and hard about. Castle AND Harper is a no go for me. You're really telling me Giannis would affect us winning for a decade more than 2 all star caliber players? I don't believe it.

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    There isn't a 30+ year old in the league I would trade Vassell/HARPER/CASTLE/AND multiple picks for. Any combo of Wesley/Branham/Vassell/Keldon/Sochan/Barnes and as many picks as they want but that's all I would even entertain. Castle I would have to think long and hard about. Castle AND Harper is a no go for me. You're really telling me Giannis would affect us winning for a decade more than 2 all star caliber players? I don't believe it.
    Plus he's expensive and we still have to extend Fox. I'm firmly in the we don't need him camp. For those who say we lack shooting, getting a guy who can't shoot and getting rid of most of the squad isn't going to change that. We can't just plug and play random other players. There aren't even many FAs available. I know Wemby's on a rookie deal, but what about when we extend him? League's about flexibility and parity now, not building a super team. You're not saying no to Giannis coming here as the Spurs, obviously, or any team for that matter, but it has to be at a great deal and he has to want to come here. He hasn't mentioned squat about wanting to play for any specific team. Doubt we get him.

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    Does anyone think Fox is in the mix for Giannis trade?
    I don’t think some of y’all(and most fans in general) realize that Fox is represented by RICH PAUL! After what Fox and Paul did to get here the Spurs are not gonna mess that situation up. He’s here to stay at least for a couple years.

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    Hhhmmm...no word on Fox extension yet?
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    I don’t think some of y’all(and most fans in general) realize that Fox is represented by RICH PAUL! After what Fox and Paul did to get here the Spurs are not gonna mess that situation up. He’s here to stay at least for a couple years.
    I'm sick of hearing people that have no clue of the intricacies of the trade to get him to the Spurs constantly trying to get him traded. There needs to be a sticky explaining why it can't be done.

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    Fox had a near triple double on good efficiency in his first game against Dallas.

    People who don't actually know his ability are severely underestimating it. He's a legit top 25, and if he gets his shooting stroke back, a top 20 player.

    Castle and Harper likely won't touch that area for the duration of Foxes next contract. I was against the trade because of the nature of the NBA and his size/game but he might not even been in his prime yet if we are being honest. He has quite a bit of game left. His next contract is an easy decision for the Spurs.

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    There isn't a 30+ year old in the league I would trade Vassell/HARPER/CASTLE/AND multiple picks for. Any combo of Wesley/Branham/Vassell/Keldon/Sochan/Barnes and as many picks as they want but that's all I would even entertain. Castle I would have to think long and hard about. Castle AND Harper is a no go for me. You're really telling me Giannis would affect us winning for a decade more than 2 all star caliber players? I don't believe it.
    All this means is you don’t want to trade for Giannis. And that’s fine

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    I'm sick of hearing people that have no clue of the intricacies of the trade to get him to the Spurs constantly trying to get him traded. There needs to be a sticky explaining why it can't be done.
    Probably the same type of people that constantly hated on Tony Parker.

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    All this means is you don’t want to trade for Giannis. And that’s fine
    No but I would only do it for the right price. Wesley/Branham/Vassell/Keldon/Sochan/Barnes and multiple first round picks and second round picks is a haul. Obviously they may not want Wesley/Branham. But I would at least put them on the table as extra young guys if they want to go into full rebuild mode. I would also be fine with moving De'Aaron Fox (again, I'm not saying the Bucks have any interest in this.) Don't get me wrong, I value Fox as a player, but he is a lot more expendable now that we drafted Castle and Harper. Both of those guys could be perennial all star guards. And I think long term Harper at PG and Castle at SG is the answer anyway. Fox is great for helping those guys develop as long as he's here though.

    But I completely get it if that's not enough for Milwaukee and that's fine. That's where I draw the line but they can pick and choose from anyone I listed

    Fox
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    2nd round picks

    Other teams may be able to offer better.

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    No but I would only do it for the right price. Wesley/Branham/Vassell/Keldon/Sochan/Barnes and multiple first round picks and second round picks is a haul. Obviously they may not want Wesley/Branham. But I would at least put them on the table as extra young guys if they want to go into full rebuild mode. I would also be fine with moving De'Aaron Fox (again, I'm not saying the Bucks have any interest in this.) Don't get me wrong, I value Fox as a player, but he is a lot more expendable now that we drafted Castle and Harper. Both of those guys could be perennial all star guards. And I think long term Harper at PG and Castle at SG is the answer anyway. Fox is great for helping those guys develop as long as he's here though.

    But I completely get it if that's not enough for Milwaukee and that's fine. That's where I draw the line but they can pick and choose from anyone I listed

    Fox
    Wesley
    Branham
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    1st round picks
    2nd round picks

    Other teams may be able to offer better.
    I hope they do. That trade ing guts our roster. We’d have to fill out with many many minimum contract guys.

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    Fox is electric there’s highlights where he blows into the lane and dunks so fast if you blinked you missed it and even when you see it your are like OMG did he just do that!?! That’s the kind of team I want, one that can rev it up to 1000 miles an hour and blow the other team out of the gym.

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    Fox had a near triple double on good efficiency in his first game against Dallas.

    People who don't actually know his ability are severely underestimating it. He's a legit top 25, and if he gets his shooting stroke back, a top 20 player.

    Castle and Harper likely won't touch that area for the duration of Foxes next contract. I was against the trade because of the nature of the NBA and his size/game but he might not even been in his prime yet if we are being honest. He has quite a bit of game left. His next contract is an easy decision for the Spurs.
    Agree with all of this. Fox was a good get, even if he wasn’t exactly what the Spurs needed. His game will make them better. This is a young team without a lot of reliable options and experience. Fox can be the veteran leader of this group. I have no doubt they’ll extend him.

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    Fox forced a trade to the Spurs. How many players have done that? Hardly anyone. He's also a very good player. You DO NOT kick him to the curb even if you got lucky in the lottery. He was even keeping an eye on the lottery as he knew we had Atlanta's pick when he got here, which I thought was cool (I'm sure he was hoping we get one of the top 4 picks/players to add to the team). Just play them all and see how it fits.

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    If you haven't yet and just need something to do while you wait for meaningful games, I do suggest people check out his interviews. Fox is a smart guy when it comes to ball. He has a good understanding for what it takes to win. Dude wants to win. He had a team almost take gsw, but knows it takes defense. He sees the vision with Wemby and is obviously all in on it.

    He's also spoken on the importance of the 3 ball for ball dominant players. His improvement before the hand injury was a focused effort. It wasn't an annomaly.

    He ain't slowing down anytime soon either.


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    yeah its funny seeing people talk about Fox as if hes on the verge of decline when he is 27 and realistically just getting into his prime

    for this needing some perspective, he's about a year younger than DJM

    tony parker who plays a relatively similar-ish game to Fox really became HOTS around the 2011-2012 season which was his age 29 season

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    yeah its funny seeing people talk about Fox as if hes on the verge of decline when he is 27 and realistically just getting into his prime

    for this needing some perspective, he's about a year younger than DJM

    tony parker who plays a relatively similar-ish game to Fox really became HOTS around the 2011-2012 season which was his age 29 season
    Exactly. People are way too worried about a “timeline”. As if a team full of 19-22 year olds are going to know how to win big games and contend. OKC is really young but their star Shai is 26 coming off 3 straight 30ppg seasons. Fox is around the same age for our team. This season he dropped 60 and then followed that up with 49 the very next game on a bad hand. Best thing for us is he is that good and isn’t even our best player. And if you think about it, Fox somewhat counts as our off-season acquisition in a way.

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    If you haven't yet and just need something to do while you wait for meaningful games, I do suggest people check out his interviews. Fox is a smart guy when it comes to ball. He has a good understanding for what it takes to win. Dude wants to win. He had a team almost take gsw, but knows it takes defense. He sees the vision with Wemby and is obviously all in on it.

    He's also spoken on the importance of the 3 ball for ball dominant players. His improvement before the hand injury was a focused effort. It wasn't an annomaly.

    He ain't slowing down anytime soon either.

    Where do you watch interviews with him. I've been trying to learn more about him during the off-season, but haven't really seen any interviews. He was on a podcast a month or two ago, but that's the only thing I've seen of him recently.

    Awesome that he knows the 3 ball is important for guys that have the ball a lot. Great to know he's working on becoming a better 3 point shooter himself. That will make the Spurs more deadly. That, with his speed would be insane. I'm excited to watch a healthy D-Fox this season.

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    De’Aaron Fox will either be one of our GOATs or the scapegoat in three years. Only time will tell.

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    Where do you watch interviews with him. I've been trying to learn more about him during the off-season, but haven't really seen any interviews. He was on a podcast a month or two ago, but that's the only thing I've seen of him recently.

    Awesome that he knows the 3 ball is important for guys that have the ball a lot. Great to know he's working on becoming a better 3 point shooter himself. That will make the Spurs more deadly. That, with his speed would be insane. I'm excited to watch a healthy D-Fox this season.
    I think that one you're referring to was the deep 3 podcast right? Actually think he talked about the 3 in that one, might be mistaken. I know he talked about it when he was leaving sac. He also spoke up about not wanting the kings to get castle because he wanted him and he mentioned the defense on that one too and how you need players willing to defend. I think most of the clips can be found in the short videos tab of a google search.

    He seems like a guy who lacks social skills tbh, he's extremely blunt and not very safe with his approach to wording. This is probably why he doesn't do a lot of interviews . I know he's going to rub some fans wrong when he drops some facts on them. I see it as an inevitable occurrence tbh.
    He does sound very knowledgeable on the game though and the experience of building a winner. I'm pretty excited to see him play for real as well. The season was over when he came over, he didn't have a big reason to play too hard or take minutes away from the young guys and he even acknowledged helping them find their comfort with playing with him. Although pretty straight forward, I think his experience will help out the young guys with his laid back approach to learning. He seems very level headed with things, as he won't get too high or low on an outcome. Probably why he's so good at clutch shots. He really isn't bothered if he misses them. He understands it's part of the game.

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    He talks about his contract extension on this one and why he held off. He wanted to be assured the team he was with was building to compete at an ELITE level in the future. He's wiling to invest if he knows the team is making moves for a ring.

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    Yes, it was the deep 3 podcast, thanks. I'll have to go back and watch it. I just wasn't sure if there was any other ones since he's been with the Spurs. I haven't watched anything from his Kings time, though. I'll check out that on you posted with Draymond and BD.

    And yeah, I did get that he's a bit blunt in the one I watched. I think he mentioned about fans overreacting in that one if I am remembering correctly. He also mentioned in the Deep 3 one that he knew the Spurs had Atlanta's pick for the 2025 draft and was watching them closely to see if they make the playoffs or not. I was surprised he knew that since he hadn't been with the Spurs for long. Looks like he's onto it.

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    Spurs fans and the organization are cheapskates. Haven't been to the playoffs in 6-7 years and are worried about a salary cap 5,6,7 years from now lol. Salary cap worries are usually for teams who are trying to compete for a le. If we could've got Jordan in his prime, I guarantee most of you would whine about him being too old for the roster and he'll take up too much of the salary cap. Y'all would probably want a unproven rookie because he's cheap, rather than a proven superstar. I've never seen a losing team worry so much about money.

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    Spurs fans and the organization are cheapskates. Haven't been to the playoffs in 6-7 years and are worried about a salary cap 5,6,7 years from now lol. Salary cap worries are usually for teams who are trying to compete for a le. If we could've got Jordan in his prime, I guarantee most of you would whine about him being too old for the roster and he'll take up too much of the salary cap. Y'all would probably want a unproven rookie because he's cheap, rather than a proven superstar. I've never seen a losing team worry so much about money.
    You’re a dumbass, and totally uninformed about the second apron. Penalties for being too far into the tax repeatedly are that your furthest draft pick (7years out) can be pushed to the end of the round, and frozen from being traded. This can happen multiple times. Those picks would be right when you need to rebuild, and they’d be #30 or after expansion, #32. Your rebuild would be ed.

    Do you pay attention to anything? Did you see GS let Klay Thompson, one of their all time greats, walk in FA last summer? Did you see the LAC let PG walk, not even over $$ but over years? Neither of those teams has ever been shy about spending, and they’d pulled the plug on All Stars. They understand what is coming, but you sure as don’t.

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    You’re a dumbass, and totally uninformed about the second apron. Penalties for being too far into the tax repeatedly are that your furthest draft pick (7years out) can be pushed to the end of the round, and frozen from being traded. This can happen multiple times. Those picks would be right when you need to rebuild, and they’d be #30 or after expansion, #32. Your rebuild would be ed.

    Do you pay attention to anything? Did you see GS let Klay Thompson, one of their all time greats, walk in FA last summer? Did you see the LAC let PG walk, not even over $$ but over years? Neither of those teams has ever been shy about spending, and they’d pulled the plug on All Stars. They understand what is coming, but you sure as don’t.
    Shut the up. Your dumbass are one of the ones who want Wemby to take a paycut for your happiness. Cheap ass. You should've been the last person to comment.

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