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    In the past the Spurs could have been a facilitator in a KD trade to pick up assets, but with the Fox deal the Spurs have pivoted into win now mode.

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    In the past the Spurs could have been a facilitator in a KD trade to pick up assets, but with the Fox deal the Spurs have pivoted into win now mode.
    We still could. We have draft assets and 2026 ending contracts (HB,Branham,Wesley), and those are the new cap room.

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    We still could. We have draft assets and 2026 ending contracts (HB,Branham,Wesley), and those are the new cap room.
    That's not quite what I meant. If the Spurs were still in tank mode they could take on longer bad contracts in exchange for shorter ones like the ones you mentioned and pick up draft capital by being the third team in a 3-team deal where KD goes somewhere else. But being in win-now mode means if the Spurs are involved in a KD deal it's with the purpose of the Spurs getting KD themselves.

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    That's not quite what I meant. If the Spurs were still in tank mode they could take on longer bad contracts in exchange for shorter ones like the ones you mentioned and pick up draft capital by being the third team in a 3-team deal where KD goes somewhere else. But being in win-now mode means if the Spurs are involved in a KD deal it's with the purpose of the Spurs getting KD themselves.
    I don’t think that has to be true at all. You don’t want junk players, but one or both other teams may want shorter contracts ( we have like $25M in 2026 ending contracts), so there’s a chance to get a decent player on a 2 or 3 year deal.

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    Nick Wrong back at it again.


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    I still want Book man Phoenix


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    Devin's a much better player than I thought he'd become. I think he has a place on a Championship team which I didn't think I'd ever say 3 or 4 years ago.

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    Anybody agree that if spurs get the 8th pick in the draft, you give that (and possibly kj devine package) up for kevin durant, and follow up with a drafting the best available center/pf with the 15th pick?

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    Anybody agree that if spurs get the 8th pick in the draft, you give that (and possibly kj devine package) up for kevin durant, and follow up with a drafting the best available center/pf with the 15th pick?
    That pick could be with you for. 10-12 years, or you could have KD for 2-3. Nope.

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    Anybody agree that if spurs get the 8th pick in the draft, you give that (and possibly kj devine package) up for kevin durant, and follow up with a drafting the best available center/pf with the 15th pick?
    Nope, I'll give the Atlanta pick and matching salary (Evin & Kelon) and that's it because Durant is going to be expensive as and the Spurs are going to need some cost controlled talent at that lottery pick.

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    I’d trade pick 8 for Durant in a heartbeat.

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    I’d trade pick 8 for Durant in a heartbeat.
    Why? He’s going to be a 2-3 year rental, at best.

    We’re going to win les with Wemby. By being impatient, you’re almost ensuring that the window will be short because of all the assets expended. A lottery pick could be here for 10-12 years along side Wemby.

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    Why? He’s going to be a 2-3 year rental, at best.

    We’re going to win les with Wemby. By being impatient, you’re almost ensuring that the window will be short because of all the assets expended. A lottery pick could be here for 10-12 years along side Wemby.
    Don’t care about 8-10 years of another Sochan/Keldon/Vassell, I’d much rather have 2 or 3 years of Durant and it’s not a particularly difficult choice tbh. Wemby is going to have multiple windows hopefully, with multiple different cores around him. I wouldn’t expect a Tim-Tony-Manu run especially with the new CBA, so 2-3 years windows is what would be expected.

    Durant would make the Spurs much better and would help a lot of pieces to fall into place in the roster. Who knows, they might even have a shot at it in a couple of years if he doesn’t decline too much. They only have 2 more cheap years of Wemby and one cheap-ish of Fox, they can afford Durant right now. The problem is to get Phoenix to accept it but pick 8+ Vassell+Keldon or Barnes would be similar value to what Butler went for. Obviously they'll probably need to include a 3rd team as Vassell is unlikely to have value for Phoenix with Booker and Beal there.
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    Nick Wrong back at it again.

    A really awkwardly worded take by Wright, but I think I see what he's saying...

    Of the teams who will be competing for a le over the next 10 years (which the Spurs are), the Spurs are the least likely to compete for a le next year, even if they bring in KD, so why potentially ruin your flexibility to do it.

    And honestly, I think he's generally correct. If you can essentially get KD for free and it doesn't tie you up for a few years, then it's a different story, but if it costs you your flexibility - then it's not really worth it. I think I agree with that.

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    This only works if KD forces his way to the Spurs like Fox did. Need KD to undercut the Suns a little so they can hang on to assets.

    Would I be shocked if the Spurs pursued KD, no. This is the same franchise that signed a 36 y/o Gasol.

    Spurs always get their guy eventually, even if he’s got one foot in the grave.

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    That pick could be with you for. 10-12 years, or you could have KD for 2-3. Nope.

    think I have to agree with BG. I would say it's more of a 2-3 year almost gaurantee quality lengthy sf which spurs are in need of vs. 10-12 years of players currently available on the board. And if it's a kon knueppel or mcneely type player, I just don't see us hitting another homerun like Castle. Those players are almost a dime a dozen. I rather go with the rental, regardless if durant has lost a step. He'd still be a top 50 player i'd believe.

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    Why? He’s going to be a 2-3 year rental, at best.

    We’re going to win les with Wemby. By being impatient, you’re almost ensuring that the window will be short because of all the assets expended. A lottery pick could be here for 10-12 years along side Wemby.
    THis.

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    On the other hand, you never know what the future holds and Wemby could be gone in an instant, for one reason or another.
    If KD is cheap, you go for it. The West is wide open, even though there are a lot of strong teams, none are unbeatable and everyone has their flaws.

    I'm personally not a fan of KD, but I'd do Devin+Keldon+1 non-lottery FRP+a bunch of SRPs.
    Suns don't have any leverage and KD can choose where he wants to go.

    Noone is offering them a young player with all-star upside for 37 year old KD.
    Suns need picks, both FRPs and SRPs. No contending team has many of those other than OKC, but I doubt KD wants to go there. He rejected the Warriors, I don't think he'd go back to Oklahoma.

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    On the other hand, you never know what the future holds and Wemby could be gone in an instant, for one reason or another.
    If KD is cheap, you go for it. The West is wide open, even though there are a lot of strong teams, none are unbeatable and everyone has their flaws.

    I'm personally not a fan of KD, but I'd do Devin+Keldon+1 non-lottery FRP+a bunch of SRPs.
    Suns don't have any leverage and KD can choose where he wants to go.

    Noone is offering them a young player with all-star upside for 37 year old KD.
    Suns need picks, both FRPs and SRPs. No contending team has many of those other than OKC, but I doubt KD wants to go there. He rejected the Warriors, I don't think he'd go back to Oklahoma.
    He didn’t want GS because of Draymond.
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    Nick Wrong back at it again.

    I don't know if it's the wording, but I understand he's say the Spurs are least likely to compete for a Championship next year, but is he also saying over the next 10 years too? If so, how the f$#% would he know anything about that.

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    I don't know if it's the wording, but I understand he's say the Spurs are least likely to compete for a Championship next year, but is he also saying over the next 10 years too? If so, how the f$#% would he know anything about that.
    I think what was said was that there was a group of teams that would compete for championships over the next ten years, the Spurs are one of them, but SA is the least likely of the teams to win next year.

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    Anybody agree that if spurs get the 8th pick in the draft, you give that (and possibly kj devine package) up for kevin durant, and follow up with a drafting the best available center/pf with the 15th pick?
    i wouldn't even take him in free agency.. guy is done.

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    Don't think KD is going to be a Spur next season tbh, though I'd love to be wrong. HOU and DEN just make more sense for a 37 year-old who's trying to win now. I think he eventually winds up on one of those teams. Time will tell.

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    Don't think KD is going to be a Spur next season tbh, though I'd love to be wrong. HOU and DEN just make more sense for a 37 year-old who's trying to win now. I think he eventually winds up on one of those teams. Time will tell.
    i dont think so either. if durant was part of the banana boat crew, i could see CP3 recruiting him and then paul signs on for another year as a backup. but otherwise nah, i dont think he'd go out of his way to push for the spurs in the last years of his all-nba level play

    like some of the others here, i wouldnt give more than vassell + keldon + 1 FRP + handful of SRPs. i agree with the poorly worded nick wright take... that of the spurs next 10 seasons, next season is probably the one they have the lowest chance of ringing. so if we have to give up multiple picks and trade assets to push all in for ~2-3 years, its probably not great.

    but yeah its fun to think about. a lineup of Fox/Castle/Barnes/Durant/Wemby with Paul/Champagnie/Sochan as the main bench guys, plus whoever we pick in the first round... could be fun. spurs would also still have the full MLE to sign a key bench player or two

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