Shams: Wemby OUT for the Remainder of the Season

[dn0774]

Crap, at least hearing this news made the complete falloff in his game the last three weeks make some sense for a while until reading this. E.g. getting fatigued quicker, less mobility on defense, shot blocks dropping, and his three point shooting falling to 30%. But sounds like maybe only the last one would have much of a chance of coming from this. He really hadn't looked like himself the entire month.

Vic was still dealing with illness/allergies for a bit (I saw someone mention somewhere those issues can even contribute to a clot instance, though rare). Today's medical release doesn't mean the previously reported issues he was having weren't real.

Just been a tough 6 weeks for the kid, right now I hope he can do his best to not worry about basketball and just focus on getting his health right.

[benefactor]

When I was in the hospital, they had me wear these sleeves on my legs attached to a pump that continuously inflated and deflated to make sure my circulation kept going. Was actually a pretty nice little massage, tbh, but got pretty old after a few hours.

I have a hematologist I see now every year who has told me I don't need to see her anymore, but she doesn't mind if we do an annual check-in... I keep going because I figure it couldn't hurt to have a specialist on my team looking at my body Next visit she's probably going to get annoyed when I ask her a bunch of questions about DVTs in the shoulder......

Went through a period where I had confusing panel results... thought for awhile I might have Lupus Anticoagulant syndrome (which can lead to DVT and strokes)... but turns out I didn't. Learned a lot about this stuff when I was going through that, most of which I've already forgotten.

Yeah I'm psych now so some of my knowledge is outdated too lol. But if you need a therapist to get through this let me know

[TE]

Sounds like you know what you're talking about. I don't understand most of what you said, though.

One thing I will ask, though, so a fall or someone like GG Jackson falling on top of him should could have caused this? If I understand correctly what MikeC said, the trauma would have to be much more than that?

I will have to defer to my Heme colleague here and his expertise...

As has been mentioned in a recent post, when a blood clot is diagnosed, we have to assess where it is initially and act accordingly to guidelines. On the primary care level,we have assessments to determine on a superficial level if someone's blood is running denser than usual. There are other factors like age, underlying comorbidities, family history that are factored in to this risk assessment.

[Russ]

Shout out mikec. The real MVP of this thread and the forum today.

[Seventyniner]

"Victor said his arm wasn't feeling normal."

It's anecdotal, but that doesn't sound like shortness of breath or other pulmonary symptoms.

If so, that could be a good sign that he does not have a pulmonary embolism.

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[spurraider21]

yeah we gotta take a step and realize that conditioning issues =/= shortness of breath

[LeBowen]

My biggest question is how limited will his activities be over the next 6 months?
If it's just contact ban, he might have an improved skillset when he returns.

[mikec]

My biggest question is how limited will his activities be over the next 6 months?
If it's just contact ban, he might have an improved skillset when he returns.

Contact ban while he's on blood thinners.

[Russ]

My biggest question is how limited will his activities be over the next 6 months?
If it's just contact ban, he might have an improved skillset when he returns.

This guy, with his antsy ambitious energy, will become a virtual student of the game.

He'll play out each situation in his mind in real time and visualize what he should do, piling laser-focused observation upon laser-focused observation.

If (when?) he comes back, he'll be a basketball savant.

(At least I hope so.)

[drpill]

Yeah if Wemby can work on his game and his body -- can he lift weights etc -- then any amount of time out will only make him a bigger beast when he returns.

Is there any chance the allergies made him more susceptible to having blood clots? Like a month straight of having your immune system under assault, like some folks were describing, while trying to play basketball at a high level, it sounds hard on the body. If anything maybe the Spurs should just let him sit out that part of the season. Let him go work on his game in Paris and chill.

[scott]

Wemby gonna come back from the offseason with prime DRob’s body and Curry’s 3-ball

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Nah we ed. Dallas moving to Vegas. Spurs moving to Waco to split the difference. It is written

[slick'81]

Get well soon big man

[Pauleta14]

Wemby being short of breath was just him acting as if he's 1 foot shorter imo

We've taken for granted this insanity of moving around a 7'5 body all while being the main option and focus on both ends of the court.

He'll get better and will get more help but will always struggle

[RC_Drunkford]

So the posters that mentioned GG Jackson falling on him (I don't remember the fall/hit) wouldn't be enough to cause one of those traumas? When you say "environmental" can you give some examples of that?



The shortness of breath thing has me worried and I hope it's nothing related to it now that I know more about it. I hope it's just something completely separate.

[Fireball]

I played Basketball with blood thinners ... got pretty ugly sometimes

[exstatic]

I played Basketball with blood thinners ... got pretty ugly sometimes

The idea is to use them to clear the clot, and then go off them. Miami refused to let Bosh play on blood thinners, and he would have needed them to prevent a second reoccurrence. His was a much more hazardous lower extremity DVT. If those break loose, they are definitely going to the heart or lungs directly, express route.

[The Truth #6]

Not trying to get all armchair hematologist here, but I'm wondering what a preferable etiology would be here. I'm guessing either some sort of one-time trauma, or an anatomical issue that they can fix, meaning vessel was getting pinched somewhere and they have to carve out a better space for it or something like that. If it is just from overuse then, I'm curious if the team is going to want to ask him to shoot less three-pointers somehow? Or in the off-season is he somehow tried to possibly redefine his game to some extent to learn some low post moves? Lot of different outcomes are possible.

[RC_Drunkford]

btw doesn't JJJ winning DPOY now mean he can get the supermax and we can't sign Aldama in the offseason?

[LeBowen]

btw doesn't JJJ winning DPOY now mean he can get the supermax and we can't sign Aldama in the offseason?

They got rid of Smart to make space for JJJ's extension.
Also traded LaRavia because they knew they can't extend him.

It's going to come down to Aldama's preference, if he wants to stay in Memphis or not.

[Ice009]

btw doesn't JJJ winning DPOY now mean he can get the supermax and we can't sign Aldama in the offseason?

If JJJ gets the Supermax, how does that hinder the Spurs being able to sign Aldama? Wouldn't that mean Memphis would have less money to spend?

[Maddog]

Not trying to get all armchair hematologist here, but I'm wondering what a preferable etiology would be here. I'm guessing either some sort of one-time trauma, or an anatomical issue that they can fix, meaning vessel was getting pinched somewhere and they have to carve out a better space for it or something like that. If it is just from overuse then, I'm curious if the team is going to want to ask him to shoot less three-pointers somehow? Or in the off-season is he somehow tried to possibly redefine his game to some extent to learn some low post moves? Lot of different outcomes are possible.

Trauma
Anatomical- such as thoracic outlet syndrome
If confident this is provoked and the provoking situation has been alleviated can possibly get by with 3 months of anti coagulation.

There have been protocols to allow athletes to play on AC. It's not standard, but modern anticoagulants have a short half life and can be held day of game. I know in fact several NFL players who do this (some with pretty serious clots- well there all serious but with pulmonary embolism)
That said it's clearly non-standard and no data on if this puts them at increased risk

[exstatic]

btw doesn't JJJ winning DPOY now mean he can get the supermax and we can't sign Aldama in the offseason?

He might also make All NBA. I think the Aldama ship has sailed.

[TekXX]

How many more games does Wemby need to qualify for DPOY? Can he suit up and be on the court for a second until he reaches the numbered needed?

[exstatic]

How many more games does Wemby need to qualify for DPOY? Can he suit up and be on the court for a second until he reaches the numbered needed?

I think the voters would frown on that happening for 13 games. Just shut it down,and run it back next year.