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    HB is expiring and averaged less than 4 rebounds per game as a guy who spent most of last year as the starting 4

    KJ should be traded

    dont let those two guys be part of the equation dissuading you from thinking PF isn’t a need. Backup C is certainly a need as well but a starting caliber PF is going to be more challenging to find (and therefore, a higher priority than) a backup caliber center who can hold it down for 15 minutes
    Agreed. These two things should be the top priorities for the team, IMO, and since starting PF is more important than backup C simply by virtue of minutes impact, I put that as a higher priority. Spurs have the ability to make a move on that front, but they may want to play SFs at PF for some reason. Everyone currently on the roster contemplated for PF minutes isn't really a "modern PF", they are just SFs playing out of position.

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    We're going to be talking about Cam Johnson until the day he retires, aren't we?
    Nah. Over the next 7 days he will get traded and spurs fans will say "i wouldn't pay that much to get Cam Johnson" or he will sign a contract and no matter what the money is spurs fans will say "i wouldn't pay that much to get Cam Johnson"

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    y'all gotta find a new target for that PF spot


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    HB is expiring and averaged less than 4 rebounds per game as a guy who spent most of last year as the starting 4

    KJ should be traded

    dont let those two guys be part of the equation dissuading you from thinking PF isn’t a need. Backup C is certainly a need as well but a starting caliber PF is going to be more challenging to find (and therefore, a higher priority than) a backup caliber center who can hold it down for 15 minutes
    Agreed. These two things should be the top priorities for the team, IMO, and since starting PF is more important than backup C simply by virtue of minutes impact, I put that as a higher priority. Spurs have the ability to make a move on that front, but they may want to play SFs at PF for some reason. Everyone currently on the roster contemplated for PF minutes isn't really a "modern PF", they are just SFs playing out of position.
    The Spurs don’t need to solve everything in one offseason, IMO. If it was an open door and there weren’t such thing as contracts, I’d agree. I think they should just go for a stopgap for any areas of need

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    HB is expiring and averaged less than 4 rebounds per game as a guy who spent most of last year as the starting 4

    KJ should be traded

    dont let those two guys be part of the equation dissuading you from thinking PF isn’t a need. Backup C is certainly a need as well but a starting caliber PF is going to be more challenging to find (and therefore, a higher priority than) a backup caliber center who can hold it down for 15 minutes
    100%. If the Spurs feel like they’re totally set at PF because they have Sochan/Keldon/Barnes then that’s…very concerning. Obviously we’re excited about Bryant but it’s pretty unlikely he’s some great player in year 1, and either way it might take him a year or 2 before he develops the frame to really be a full-time 4 in the NBA.

    I think most here are on the same page, but it seems like a consolidation trade is just borderline necessary. If you don’t get rid of any of the existing core it just seems like it’ll be impossible to manage minutes across so many guys while still getting high quality play out of those minutes.

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    The comment “keldon will get minutes at power forward” is an excellent argument for why PF is such a big priority

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    I still lean toward back up center being the greater need, at least for the upcoming season. Long term, a starting PF is definitely needed.

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    Too much mention of Yabusele to the Spurs to not think this has been in the works for a while (probably since the 76ers jumped to 3, making it highly unlikely they'd be able to retain him).

    I like it if it's in conjunction with a consolidation trade to clean up and make sense of the roster. If it's with the intent of just being the primary backup C, I hate it.
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    I was just about to say: you know what would be funny? If the Spurs view Yabusele as a C and not a PF and he's their big aquisiton to fix the back up C role

    Still weird that he just moved into a new spot in Philly though

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    Agreed. These two things should be the top priorities for the team, IMO, and since starting PF is more important than backup C simply by virtue of minutes impact, I put that as a higher priority. Spurs have the ability to make a move on that front, but they may want to play SFs at PF for some reason. Everyone currently on the roster contemplated for PF minutes isn't really a "modern PF", they are just SFs playing out of position.
    I don't necessarily feel that strongly about it, but I do have two points to consider when using minutes to determine whether to prioritize starting PF vs backup center:

    1. I think the drop-off from a good rim protector/rebounder over one of our 4s masquerading as true center is more significant than the drop-off between any of the starting PF trade/FA candidates that we have over what we already have. Just like high quality initiators have an outsized impact on a team's offensive value, true centers have an outsized impact on a team's defense. I don't necessarily have any data to support this, I guess maybe you can point to DPM of some of our favorite starting PF candidates (Collins, PJ, Santi) all being about +1 whereas backup center Goga is almost +2 in this regard. That's a very, very imperfect way of visualizing this, so this is more of an assertion than statement of fact.

    2. While it's easy to say that backup C is only responsible for 15 minutes a game, I think that we've seen enough of this coaching staff to know that they're going to bubble wrap Wemby. It's almost expected that he miss 10-15 games over the course of the season for minor ailments, maladies, etc and I honestly don't expect him to average much more than 32-33 minutes per game over the course of the season, so that when you account for Wemby's missed time, it probably comes out to more like 20 minutes per game. While the starting PF is likely to get more minutes, the gap is smaller than it appears.

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    I was just about to say: you know what would be funny? If the Spurs view Yabusele as a C and not a PF and he's their big aquisiton to fix the back up C role

    Still weird that he just moved into a new spot in Philly though
    What about that tweet you posted in the other thread about Yabusele? You think that means anything or not really. Sounds like they were talking about the season and not now. Maybe he is open to leaving.

    I'm getting a little concerned about not hearing anything in regard to centers so far in the offseason. I know it's still early, but would have liked to have heard something by now. Surely the Spurs are not going to do that to Victor by not signing a decent center to help him out?

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    Yabu would be a decent backup big honestly.

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    Too much mention of Yabusele to the Spurs to not think this has been in the works for a while (probably since the 76ers jumped to 3, making it highly unlikely they'd be able to retain him).

    I like it if it's in conjunction with a consolidation trade to clean up and make sense of the roster. If it's with the intent of just being the primary backup C, I hate it.
    Yep. It would be seriously worrisome if they bring him on to be the full-time backup C. As a PF and maybe someone to play very occasional spot minutes at the C…then I’m totally down with it.

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    Keldon getting minutes at the 4 again would be a nightmare. We've seen that movie before and it was a disaster. Every time.

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    Some of y’all got some big dreams for sure. I personally don’t want to see us use any FRP’s to trade right now. I don’t think there’s anyone available that moves the needle enough for us to be contenders. Yabusele would be a good addition because he wouldn’t cost us anything to get and he’s got a proven track record playing alongside Wemby. He’s strong enough to guard opposing 5’s which I believe is the biggest reason Wemby doesn’t like playing center. HB isn’t a solid rebounder but he’s one of the few on the floor that can shoot. I say pick up Yab then put Keldon, Devin, Wesley, and Branham on the block. Attach whatever SRP’s we need to from the war chest to bring in shooters and a couple bigs.

    The real problem there is what to do with Sochan? He’s skilled enough to hold onto but his lack of shooting limits the time he can be on the floor with Wemby. In this scenario he would really need to move to the bench and slot in at the 3 for the second unit.

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    I was taking a look at Mattias Lessort. Looks like he fractured two bones in his right lower leg at the end of last year (Dec. 19th), but also, he's extended his contract (Dec. 31st) until 2028 with his current Euroleague team Panathinaikos.
    His draft rights were traded to the Wizards Feb. 2025, so I'm not sure what the Wizards are going to do with him. Since they seem to like French players just as much as the Spurs, I can see them wanting to try and bring him over themselves (if he wants to come over that is).

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    Would love to see more IG stories about Keldon's weight change. This season he's a power forward! He's gained 35 pounds this offseason and doing everything the front office asks of him! Sort of like a method actor thing.

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    Lakers need more of a rim running center, i dont think BroLo would be a good fit there tbh. But he's from the west coast and would still start so I could see the appeal.

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    Keldon getting minutes would be a nightmare. We've seen that movie before and it was a disaster. Every time.

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    Lol true. Keldon at any position isn't ideal. He's just especially terrible (and small) at the 4.

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