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    white power agitprop




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    While Ms. Good was cosplaying a revolutionary, ICE has been busy keeping her community safe. I started to say, keep her safe but, she ed that up.


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    ICE isn't supposed to be keeping anyone's neighborhood safe, that's what local police are for

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    Because I don't have time to make this forum a full-time endeavor, I fed several of my arguments into ChatGPT and asked for a post, in response to the argument being had here. Below is the result. Now, I'm going to go enjoy my Sunday.

    I think we should reset the conversation and recognize Ms. Good's death did not occur in a vacuum — it happened within a much larger context of immigration enforcement in Minnesota and across the country. Instead of confining our view to a single moment, we need to widen the lens and look at what’s taking place in Minnesota, what federal immigration operations are attempting to do, and how tensions have escalated across the nation as efforts to enforce immigration laws collide with organized resistance.

    First — no serious person celebrates a death. A woman lost her life. A family lost someone they loved. That matters. But acknowledging tragedy does not require abandoning logic, law, or basic situational awareness.

    1. These Agents Were Not Randomly Harassing Civilians

    Minnesota is currently the center of one of the largest immigration enforcement operations in the country. Hundreds to over a thousand arrests have already occurred, many involving individuals convicted of violent crimes — homicide, child sexual assault, rape, weapons offenses, and vehicular homicide.

    Just in recent reporting, ICE highlighted arrests of individuals convicted of:

    Multiple homicides,
    Sexual assault of children,
    Rape and kidnapping,
    Manslaughter and DUI-related killings,
    Armed assaults and repeat violent offenses.

    That matters for context. When agents are operating in that environment, they are not running routine traffic stops — they are actively hunting people who have demonstrated violent behavior. Any stop, any contact, any unexpected interference has to be assessed through that lens. It is entirely plausible that the agents involved were en route to another operation that could have resulted in the arrest of a violent offender like those already do ented. Officers don’t get to mentally “reset” their threat awareness between calls.

    2. Assaults on ICE Agents Are Rising — Especially Vehicle Attacks

    Nationally, DHS has publicly acknowledged a significant increase in assaults against immigration officers over the past year, including a disturbing rise in vehicle-based attacks and ramming incidents. While exact Minnesota-specific numbers have not yet been released, multiple federal officials have warned that vehicles are increasingly being used as weapons against officers.

    That matters because a car is not a neutral object in a confrontation — it is a 3,000-plus-pound kinetic weapon. Courts have repeatedly recognized vehicles as deadly force when used against officers or civilians.

    This is not abstract fear. One of the agents involved in this incident had previously been injured when dragged by a vehicle during an arrest attempt. That experience alone would reasonably heighten threat perception when a suspect vehicle suddenly shifts into motion during a physical confrontation.

    3. Minnesota’s Environment Is Overtly Hostile Toward ICE

    Minnesota’s political and activist environment is aggressively anti-ICE — from state leadership rhetoric to organized activist groups that openly attempt to interfere with enforcement operations. ICE agents operating in the Twin Cities are fully aware that they are being surveilled, followed, confronted, and sometimes obstructed.

    In that environment, a caravan of activists tracking agents throughout the day can reasonably be perceived as a potential ambush scenario — especially when a confrontation suddenly escalates in close proximity with a vehicle.

    Urgent commands to exit a vehicle in that context are not harassment — they are basic officer safety protocol when a rapidly evolving threat environment exists.

    The agents had no way of knowing what the surrounding group intended, what weapons might be present, or whether the situation would escalate into a coordinated interference event.

    4. What We Know About the Moment of the Shooting

    We still do not have every fact. That matters. But based on what has already emerged, this does not resemble murder in any legal sense.

    Key realities:

    One agent was physically engaged at the driver’s door.
    The vehicle was placed into drive during that physical engagement.
    The second agent had a split second to assess whether his partner was about to be dragged, crushed, or pinned — something that had already happened to him in a prior incident.
    The shooting agent had no way to know the driver’s intent once the vehicle moved.
    He had no way to know whether his partner was trapped, caught on the door, or about to be pulled under the vehicle.

    Use-of-force law does not require certainty — it requires reasonable perception of imminent deadly threat. A moving vehicle while an officer is entangled meets that threshold in virtually every use-of-force policy and court precedent in the country.

    That doesn’t make the outcome any less tragic — but tragedy is not the same thing as criminal intent.

    5. About Ms. Good and the Activism Narrative

    Ms. Good was reportedly involved in activist efforts that sought to monitor and interfere with ICE operations. Some activist groups openly describe their purpose as disrupting enforcement activity. That alone doesn’t make someone deserving of harm — but it does matter when evaluating situational risk and escalation dynamics.

    There are conflicting claims circulating online about whether the incident occurred in a simple residential departure or during ongoing activist surveillance activity. Those facts should be clarified through investigation rather than internet speculation.

    What is not accurate is portraying this as a random innocent mother simply pulling out of a driveway with no contextual backdrop. There was an organized activist presence, active engagement with federal officers, and escalating physical proximity to a moving vehicle.

    Those facts change the analysis substantially.

    6. Responsibility and Causation Are Not the Same as Malice

    No one, with any intellectual honesty, is alleging Ms. Good intended to kill anyone. But responsibility in a dynamic confrontation does not require malicious intent. Actions matter — especially when they introduce lethal risk to others.

    Placing a vehicle into motion while an officer is physically engaged at the door creates a foreseeable risk of severe injury or death. That reality does not disappear because the outcome was emotionally painful.

    There may eventually be legal analysis regarding whether other participants contributed to the escalation. That will be up to investigators and prosecutors — not internet activists.

    7. Final Thought

    We can mourn a loss and still be honest.

    This was not an execution.
    This was not a Gestapo moment.
    This was a rapidly evolving, high-risk confrontation in an environment already saturated with hostility toward law enforcement, involving a vehicle — one of the most lethal tools available in civilian space.

    The agent had seconds to decide whether his partner was about to be seriously injured or killed, and that was before he was struck by the vehicle. The law does not require perfection in those moments — only reasonableness.

    Tragedy does not automatically equal murder.

    Y'all have a good day and Chump, Blake, Spurs Homer - remember - You're on ignore so, you're yapping is fruitless.
    Lol yoni won't answer any honest questions while he's on his soapbox but he thinks his yapping his fruitful.

    What a weak minded, sycophant pussy.

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    Two US citizens detained at a Richfield, MN Target

    Had their passports on them but were violently thrown into a van anyway

    After about ten minutes they were removed from the van and violently thrown on the ground

    They are my wife's employees, they literally had their passports in their pockets and ICE refused to look. Their only "crime" was telling them " you". One of them had to seek medical attention because of how rough they threw him into the van. The other just got let go about an hour ago, so 8 hours of detention for saying " you" to ICE. this is retaliation. From the bottom of my heart these pieces of human garbage.

    Edit: since people can't seem to understand why someone would have their passport. That's how scared people of color are right now in Minnesota. And it literally did nothing to help them.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/stateofMN/c...target_by_ice/

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    racial animus on the part of ICE, tbh

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    ICE ICE BABY
    Do not stop
    Find illegal aliens all of them and throw them the out
    No amnesty no voting rights for illegal aliens
    Lefties get in your way them too

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    door-to-door raids seem to have commenced

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    "organized gangs of wine moms"

    alongside the misogyny, a real shiver of fear is detectable


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    ICE ICE BABY
    Do not stop
    Find illegal aliens all of them and throw them the out
    No amnesty no voting rights for illegal aliens
    Lefties get in your way them too
    Why are they rounding up US citizens with full do entation who did nothing wrong?

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    COVID is a bigger threat to ICE officers than protesters

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    zero ICE officers have been killed by immigrants/protesters

    15 have died from COVID

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    downshifting from "self-defense" to "shooting people in the face because they disrespected LE"

    Q: "Do you believe that deadly force was necessary?"

    Trump: "It was highly disrespectful of law enforcement. The woman and her friend were highly disrespectful of law enforcement…Law enforcement should not be in a position where they have to put up with this stuff."

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    we're at the jackbooted thugs doing door-to-door raids of regime opponents phase of operations

    A video of ICE agents conducting door-to-door searches today in Minneapolis

    The homeowner requests a warrant repeatedly, is told they don't require one, then is told they're getting it, then the agents storm in anyway

    They also point a taser at her to try and disrupt filming
    https://bsky.app/profile/dominicervo.../3mc6vyltzsc2c

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    papers, please

    Several people confronted Border Patrol personnel at a gas station in Minneapolis, Minnesota, after agents stopped a man pumping gas and demanded proof of citizenship.
    https://bsky.app/profile/nbcnews.com/post/3mcaeamzlgn2r

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    What? yoni assured us the secret police would not be going door-to-door!

    Was he................................................ .....wrong?

    lol

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    churchgoer threatened with execution by masked government thugs

    https://www.rawstory.com/renee-good-2674874951/

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    probably targeting the driver, but this is still very bad

    Local parents groups asking if adults can ride school buses to help protect children from ICE after a special ed bus got stopped this morning. Like a Dirty Harry movie except the villain is the federal government.
    https://bsky.app/profile/normcharlat.../3mcajad4kx222

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    zero ICE officers have been killed by immigrants/protesters

    15 have died from COVID
    ICE turned out to be deadlier to Goode than COVID.

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    "organized gangs of wine moms"

    alongside the misogyny, a real shiver of fear is detectable

    I'd love for this pussy to define "wine mom"

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    within three minutes this guy was beaten unconscious



    https://bsky.app/profile/dmbmeg.bsky.../3mc6nhrvm322t

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    within three minutes this guy was beaten unconscious



    https://bsky.app/profile/dmbmeg.bsky.../3mc6nhrvm322t
    But this is to make citizens feel safer! I feel safer!

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    GOOD, another worthless cosplaying lezbo revolutionary re is gone!

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