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    So they won't even use the full MLE this summer. Yay.

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    I read it from more than one writer
    Recently? Links?

    Didn't think so.

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    Why doesn't he do like Bruce did- take the minimum to get to the Spurs?
    Why would he do that ?
    Playing BB is his job and when you choose a job, the salary is a big factoer in your decision.

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    Does anybody think the Spurs will wait to see if they can dump Barry's salary before they sign Udoka?

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    Does anybody think the Spurs will wait to see if they can dump Barry's salary before they sign Udoka?
    I don't see how they do sign Udoka without dumping Barry's salary.

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    I wonder what the hold up is. Too much CIA going on here.

    Spurs are going to somehow get Travis Outlaw and Ime Udoka and trade away Barry and Beno.

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    They are wating to see if they can convince Vaginis to come back. What else could the hold up be?

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    What appears to be a lock is the signing of Outlaw, the fifth-year forward who is coming off his best season. McMillan and Pritchard said they are intent on signing Outlaw to a free agent contract.

    "The big thing for us now is to get Travis signed," McMillan said Sunday. "As soon as we do that, we go into the season with that roster."

    On Monday, Outlaw indicated that he is leaning toward re-signing with the Blazers.

    "They are a young team that looks like they are going to be a running team, and I do like to run," Outlaw said from his home in Mississippi. "And I do like Portland."

    Outlaw said he thinks his agent, Bill Duffy, is nearing completion of a deal and said he hopes he can sign a contract "sooner than later."

    http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/or...870.xml&coll=7

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    What appears to be a lock is the signing of Outlaw, the fifth-year forward who is coming off his best season. McMillan and Pritchard said they are intent on signing Outlaw to a free agent contract.

    "The big thing for us now is to get Travis signed," McMillan said Sunday. "As soon as we do that, we go into the season with that roster."

    On Monday, Outlaw indicated that he is leaning toward re-signing with the Blazers.

    "They are a young team that looks like they are going to be a running team, and I do like to run," Outlaw said from his home in Mississippi. "And I do like Portland."

    Outlaw said he thinks his agent, Bill Duffy, is nearing completion of a deal and said he hopes he can sign a contract "sooner than later."

    http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/or...870.xml&coll=7
    Hm... this indicates that they already know Udoka is gone...

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    Hm... this indicates that they already know Udoka is gone...
    But to what team? It seems that the spurs arent the only ones with an interest in Udoka.

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    But to what team? It seems that the spurs arent the only ones with an interest in Udoka.
    That the reason I hope it means that he will sign with the Spurs soon. I hope the only reason they have not signed him is that they are trying to get somebody better...

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    Blazers don't even have a roster spot for Udoka :

    PG : Jack/Blake/Rodriguez/Green
    SG : Roy/Webster
    SF : Outlaw/Jones/Miles
    PF: Aldridge/Frye/McRoberts
    C: Oden/Przybilla/LaFrentz.

    That's 15 players.

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    If the Spurs and Udoka were as close as the tlong blog reported, the deal would be done by now. Neither party has any reason to wait. The Spurs don't want a team to get desperate and outbid them on Udoka. Udoka's camp wouldn't want to wait around with solid other options such as Posey, Barnes and Pietrus still on the market.

    Since it's not done yet, I'm guessing there are multiple teams in the running and Udoka has to pick the team he wants. Usually the Spurs don't try to outbid teams and would rather a player join the team because they want to join the team ... not because the Spurs are offering the most money.

    However, Udoka is the only cheap wing option that fills a long-term need for the Spurs. If the Spurs miss on him, I'm not sure where they go next.

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    Too bad Ruben Patterson is a nut case or else he'd make a perfect Spur. You put a motivated Patterson and Bowen on the court at the same time and you'd have one of the best perimeter duos of all-time.

    Hopefully no one in the west signs Patterson because he guards Manu better than anyone in the league.

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    If the Spurs and Udoka were as close as the tlong blog reported, the deal would be done by now. Neither party has any reason to wait. The Spurs don't want a team to get desperate and outbid them on Udoka. Udoka's camp wouldn't want to wait around with solid other options such as Posey, Barnes and Pietrus still on the market.

    Since it's not done yet, I'm guessing there are multiple teams in the running and Udoka has to pick the team he wants. Usually the Spurs don't try to outbid teams and would rather a player join the team because they want to join the team ... not because the Spurs are offering the most money.

    However, Udoka is the only cheap wing option that fills a long-term need for the Spurs. If the Spurs miss on him, I'm not sure where they go next.
    Based on the lack of interest (suprisingly!) thus far in Matt Barnes, I'm actually starting to think that he could be had for relatively the same price as is being reported with Udoka....3yrs $9-12M.

    Would you consider Barnes a suitable replacement?

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    Other than taking a chance on Patterson (which the Spurs would never do), the only other fall back option I see is if the Spurs throw a little money at CJ Miles to see if they can steal him from Utah.

    He pretty much sucks but the Spurs liked him coming out of high school and they've already shown with Amir Johnson that they're willing to try to develop a young player. The drawbacks on Miles are he's not that good and he's no longer eligible for D-League. Then again, neither was Amir Johnson.

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    Based on the lack of interest (suprisingly!) thus far in Matt Barnes, I'm actually starting to think that he could be had for relatively the same price as is being reported with Udoka....3yrs $9-12M.

    Would you consider Barnes a suitable replacement?
    Tough to compare Udoka and Barnes. Barnes is a Long Three while Udoka is a smaller player. I think Barnes is the better player but Udoka fits better as an eventual replacement for Bowen.

    I'd be happy with either. Udoka is probably a safer signing because Barnes has become a little overly eccentric in recent years.

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    Barnes has become a little overly eccentric in recent years.

    But we need a new anti-spur...

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    But we need a new anti-spur...

    You rang?

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    While one is alot more flamboyant than the other, both of them play to their strength...defense. And that's something Pop is sure to love, no matter how eccentric they may be....

    I also like the rebounding from Barnes and he fits a need.

    I'm not saying the Spurs should overbid for this guy, but I think he was quoted recently in a paper as saying that he initially thought he was going to get MLE offers, but has backed off of that thinking of late.

    I understand he's not a "Bowen replacement", but he could very well get legitimate minutes at SF, the position Bowen plays...

    Bottom Line: For a similar price as Udoka, $3M/yr, Barnes should be a legitimate option for this club.

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    What's amazing about Patterson is how well he moves despite the extra baggage. I swear I get him and Vashon Lenard, post-surgery, confused all the time.

    Ruben just looks fat...

    But maybe that's because I'm used to looking at Parker, Ginobili, Bowen, Duncan, White, Elson, and damn near every other Spur....skewed skinny I guess.

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    What's amazing about Patterson is how well he moves despite the extra baggage. I swear I get him and Vashon Lenard, post-surgery, confused all the time.

    Ruben just looks fat...
    Fatty can still D up.

    Pop would love him ... if he hadn't raped that nanny.

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    Pop would love him ... if he hadn't raped that nanny.

    Oh yeah, I forgot all about that. He was a Jailblazer.

    I wonder what TLong has to say about him...

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    Todays trivia...inspited by Reuben...

    What was the only team to sweep the 2001 Lakers all 4 games in the regular season?

    Hint...they had a barry good guard rotation. Not soft at all. Unlike a certain CenTex guard rotation that year featuring a soon to be jersey retireeee.

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    While one is alot more flamboyant than the other, both of them play to their strength...defense. And that's something Pop is sure to love, no matter how eccentric they may be....

    I also like the rebounding from Barnes and he fits a need.

    I'm not saying the Spurs should overbid for this guy, but I think he was quoted recently in a paper as saying that he initially thought he was going to get MLE offers, but has backed off of that thinking of late.

    I understand he's not a "Bowen replacement", but he could very well get legitimate minutes at SF, the position Bowen plays...

    Bottom Line: For a similar price as Udoka, $3M/yr, Barnes should be a legitimate option for this club.

    it seems as if the Spurs are willing to hand out another contract of some 3 million per year. makes sense, I guess they assume that they will be able to dump some more millions at deadline, IMO this is realistic, considering the number of expiring contracts.
    they might have already offered this money to Barnes and we just don't know about it. we know that Barnes thought he might get the MLE and that he has learned that no teams wants to pay it to him.
    (btw. I think it was ok when he tried to get the best contract possible. he didn't make much money in his career till now ,for NBA standards, and this contract will likely be the only long term contract for decent money he will ever get. it's not that he tried to get a contract, some other players of his quality didn't get before)

    I would also prefer Barnes, but would also think MLE is to much.
    as long as GSW plays the waiting game with Pietrus, there will also not be a solution about Barnes. IMO Barnes would love to resign with the Warriors. and they wait with their offer till they know what the market decides on Pietrus. I don't think that they want to keep both, they prefer Pietrus over Barnes, but not at any cost. so Barnes is kind of a insurance.
    (IMO they will play Harrington more at SF, to get more minutes for Wright at PF. and in the backcourt it looks as if Belinelli can/will play more minutes immediatly, so there are just not enough minutes around for Barnes and Pietrus at SF.)

    btw. what is eccentric about Barnes?

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