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    If all the refs are NBA refs how would that be fair?

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    Manu and Duncan better than player on PAO but PAO have 2 player better than parker.

    Dude...Manu pretty much kicked everyone's ass in the 04 Olympics by himself. All his teamates were just caught up in his wake...

    He's enough if you give him quality role players....and guess what?

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    If all the refs are NBA refs how would that be fair?
    Nope Stern made rule before EuroChallenge this year from now on only NBA refs Euro team has to agree to this.

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    Yes, preseason -- not right after the Finals. Two very different things.
    I never said "right after finals" no one say yert when it would be.

    I leave forum now you are rudest person ever.

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    One more thing, ESPN has been started calling Spurs "national champions" al lot. It report in Europe Stern is now wanting NBA champs to be called "American champs" he is already getting ready for the Euro partener with ULEB.

    And yes I see now several time ESPN refer to nba as "American" or "national" championship.

    But guess Americans can live in deny of this all they want.

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    I never said "right after finals" no one say yert when it would be.

    I leave forum now you are rudest person ever.
    You mad?

    Look, all you had to say was the Spurs might agree to another McDonald's Cup style compe ion next preseason if they win the championship.

    And explain how Stern threatened NBA teams to play well against Euro teams.

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    Games between NBA champion (Spurs, Celtics, Mavs, Suns...) and Euroleague champion (CSKA, Pana...) isn't that interesting. Top Euro teams are nowhere near top NBA teams.

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    One more thing, ESPN has been started calling Spurs "national champions" al lot. It report in Europe Stern is now wanting NBA champs to be called "American champs" he is already getting ready for the Euro partener with ULEB.

    And yes I see now several time ESPN refer to nba as "American" or "national" championship.

    But guess Americans can live in deny of this all they want.
    Manu and Pop started that trend. Look at our championship banners sometime. You're ing in the wrong forum.

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    You mad?

    Look, all you had to say was the Spurs might agree to another McDonald's Cup style compe ion next preseason if they win the championship.

    And explain how Stern threatened NBA teams to play well against Euro teams.
    You make up word "threatened" you always like this. I done deals with you tactics.

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    Games between NBA champion (Spurs, Celtics, Mavs, Suns...) and Euroleague champion (CSKA, Pana...) isn't that interesting. Top Euro teams are nowhere near top NBA teams.
    Accords to Billy Pana team current right now is better than Rockets last year team but not as good as Spurs.

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    You make up word "threatened" you always like this. I done deals with you tactics.
    You said Stern "ordered" the NBA teams to play to win. That means there would be come kind of consequence if they did not.

    What would that consequence be?

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    Still, it would have precednece. In the old ABA days there were always arguments about which league had the better team. Was Dr. J and the NJ Nets better than the Boston Celtics with John Havlicek? Everyone wanted to know and it generated a huge amount of interest.

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    Accords to Billy Pana team current right now is better than Rockets last year team but not as good as Spurs.
    LOL give it up Kill_Bill, you will not win this argument and simply go around in circles. Chumpdumper is really good at this.

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    I leave forum now you are rudest person ever.

    I resent the out of that statement.

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    I resent the out of that statement.
    I not talk about you.

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    Whottt is just offended because he wants to be the rudest.

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    Manu and Duncan better than player on PAO but PAO have 2 player better than parker.
    Duncan > Manu = Parker

    So who are those 2 players better than Manu ?

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    I never said "right after finals" no one say yert when it would be.

    I leave forum now you are rudest person ever.
    Bill, you are passionate about your opinions and beliefs--and you're willing to struggle through language difficulties to express them. I like that.

    But don't get too upset with these guys. They have no respect for either your opinions or your willingness express them in a difficult foreign language. You have to admit that most of your information doesn't have much to back it up so they'll continue to disbelieve it.

    You're better off not arguing. Just say, "this is the information I have from this source and I believe it. Thank you for letting me express it to you."

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    they have 30 point lead against "good" Euroleague team Fenerbache in first half before coach put in 2nd and 3rd unit and tell team let up on them and hold ball to run shot clock all possesion.
    Pana was up by 4 at the half, and they never had a 30 points lead in that game

    Obradovic quote of the game :
    "Fenerbahce Ulker is a good team with a combination of good players. For that reason, we came here a little bit wary of our opponent. And the 19 points difference at the end of the game was not the real differance of power between the two teams. We made a very bad start to the game and gave too many chances for offensive rebounds and made lots of turnovers just in the first quarter. But we started showing our real face in the second period. We balanced the game, set our offense and started to take the rebounds under our control. And when we start to get rebounds, we turned those into fastbreaks as much as we could to change the destiny of the game. And finally in the third period, we found the rythm that we were targeting before the match. We played as fast as we can and it worked well as we had a big margin. As I told you at the beginning, Fenerbahce is a good team with good concepts, perfect communication. I believe that they will be in top five in our group at the end of the first phase."

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    Pana was up by 4 at the half, and they never had a 30 points lead in that game

    Obradovic quote of the game :
    "Fenerbahce Ulker is a good team with a combination of good players. For that reason, we came here a little bit wary of our opponent. And the 19 points difference at the end of the game was not the real differance of power between the two teams. We made a very bad start to the game and gave too many chances for offensive rebounds and made lots of turnovers just in the first quarter. But we started showing our real face in the second period. We balanced the game, set our offense and started to take the rebounds under our control. And when we start to get rebounds, we turned those into fastbreaks as much as we could to change the destiny of the game. And finally in the third period, we found the rythm that we were targeting before the match. We played as fast as we can and it worked well as we had a big margin. As I told you at the beginning, Fenerbahce is a good team with good concepts, perfect communication. I believe that they will be in top five in our group at the end of the first phase."

    Hmm guess imagine 25 point lead when bench all went in?

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    They don't let "scrub" player make cover of NBA Live 08 international and Rocket fans and old coach all idiot if believe such "scrub" make cover of game.

    Spurs knows his name is big name and big talent knowns all around world of basketball and understand value of it to them.
    Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 12-05-2007 at 06:52 PM.

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    what does have to do with anything? He didn't want to play in the NBA any longer you can't force someone to play if they don't want to?

    He is a Big baby for leaving the NBA after 1 year and giving up...great character man to have on the Spurs!

    But if manu treats same way as he was why would he wants stay either?

    Manu also my favorite player of all along with Billy.

    They very similar I knows Spur team and fan can have such great player and so do Billy.

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    vaginis sucks

  24. #349
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    But if manu treats same way as he was why would he wants stay either?
    To prove that the treatment was unjustified? That seems reasonable to me.

    Oh well -- at least we can be sure that we'll know about it every time Billy moves his bowels.

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    But if manu treats same way as he was why would he wants stay either?

    Manu also my favorite player of all along with Billy.

    They very similar I knows Spur team and fan can have such great player and so do Billy.
    Manu actually had to wait in Italy for 4 years to have a chance in the NBA,and never gave up. And in his roockie year,He got Pop's roockie treatment,who is worst tham any other coach in the NBA, including Van Gundy.
    Billy didn't like not being a superstar no more, that's why he gave up. He should learn to be a bit more humble first, before even thinking about coming back to the NBA.

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