Bonner Dynasty,
Im no basketball expert, im just a stooge that watches games.
But the Lakers got screwed on that trade
At Shaq's age and declining condition, he's also proved that he's no longer a center either.
Ok that was a cheap shot. Suns did well in getting the last dominant center on the landscape I guess I just need to see how this plays out. For the Suns to suddenly change their style in midseason will be harder than it seems.
Damn,
Nash
Amare
Shaq
that would be GOLD if Shaq were a couple years younger.
Whottt,
Shaq was hard to guard when he was agressive for dunks all the time.
he thinks hes a shooter now and settles for that one handed shot wayyyy too much now.
Watch Shaq play much lately?
Shaq just knocks the crap out of guys now...in fact that series was probably when he started doing it.
That's how most team's guard Parker in the playoffs now. I'd expect that's how the Suns will guard him .... especially without Marion to put on Parker. They'll probably put Nash or Hill on Parker and then tell Shaq to be ready whenever Parker has the ball to come over and help.
What's going to be odd now is teams will be going small against the Suns. The tables will have turned. The one weakness in these new Suns is neither Shaq nor Amare can step out and guard a shooter. For example, if Horry could guard Amare on one end, he'd be wide azz open on the other end.
Then again, this year with Horry hitting 20% it doesn't really matter if he's guarded or not.
At Shaq's age and declining condition, he's also proved that he's no longer a center either.
Ok that was a cheap shot. Suns did well in getting the last dominant center on the landscape I guess I just need to see how this plays out. For the Suns to suddenly change their style in midseason will be harder than it seems.
For the egomaniac D'Antoni to all of a sudden hand the reigns of the team over to Shaq too is hard to believe.
Shaq will be saying "If Steve Kerr was coaching this team, I would've been playing"
Bigger... true
Stronger... possibly, depending on Shaq's health.
Spur like Chemistry... I highly doubt it.
I'd have to see the chemistry before I believe it. Sure their chemistry might improve, but no way in do they have chemistry comparable to the 4 time champs... I agree with pretty much everything you are saying, infact I was arguing similar points... but I am not nearly as convinced as you are about their chemistry. That point of your argument seems like a bit of a reach.
So you play Udoka, and have Udoka guard Stoudamire.
Udoka has shown a penchant for guarding bigger players well.
I predict elson's last show will be given in the next Spurs Suns game.
Shaq doesn't get the ball anymore now...and that baby hook is effective.
Just out of curiosity...what's Shaq's FG% this season?
Answer that then you'll know how much of the decline in his scoring is due to him not getting the ball.
The Heat are pretty much the DWade Show now.
And Shaq will sit there and tell you straight up that he's not going to bust his butt defending and rebounding if he's not getting the ball. Guys never complain about not getting the ball when they play with Nash.
Yeah I've watched him lately, hence why I'm not freaking out over this trade.
Shaq's FG% this season: 581%
Yeap...that sucks. He obviously doesn't have anything left.
So Stoudamire is gonna willingly take less shots?
Right.
TWo words.
Eastern.
Conference.
done deal just heard on espn
Damn....For every basket he makes, he is actually making 5.81 baskets per shot.581%
I just don't think players like Amare or even Grant Hill could fully rally behind a team led by Nash and D'Antoni. But I can believe that Amare and Hill could rally around a team led by Shaq. Everyone has always rallied around Shaq outside of Kobe.
It's rare to find a player who has played with Shaq who doesn't have the utmost respect for Shaq. Like I said, he's unorthodox in that he can say stupid things to the media and can be selfish at times ... but players have always rallied around him. The Suns didn't have anyone or anything to rally around before.
Udoka on Stoudemire? Yeah, the Spurs should become the Suns while the Suns become the Spurs.
Good plan
Gotta say one thing.
The NBA hasn't had this much movement, of its stars in I don't know if ever.
Garnett.
Gasol.
O'Neal
Allen
Unreal
This will be the first time we actually try to force the pace on the Suns.
So Amare.
Mr penned himself the name STAT.
Is gonna give up shots, and defer to Mr O'Neal without a peep.
You do it in stretches.
Thats the reason Oberto is good for this team.
he can hack on shaq and flop and draw calls, while being able to keep going up and down without looking like the fat guy you see at the YMCA.
No not me i dont play at the YMCA.
What sucks for the Spurs is they are built to beat small ball teams. Now the Suns are no longer small ball and the Lakers are no longer small ball. It's kinda like 2006 when the Spurs were still built to beat Shaq teams and the NBA changed on them.
It happened again. It looks like small ball is officially dead. It's back to just being Don Nelson again ... just like it's always been
Defer to Shaq?
You bet....
And Timvp already mentioned why....6 Finals, 4 championships and 3 Finals MVPs...
Plus...Nash controls the ball for Phoenix.
You guys got to realize...this is not just trading Shaq to any team, this is trading him to a team with a guy who makes other players better arguably better than any guy in the NBA.
It's like taking an old rusty nuclear warhead and sticking some fresh uranium in it....it may be old and rusty, but it's still a freaking nuke.
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