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    Common sense says there's really nothing to declassify. Devin Nunes was sent on a fishing expedition to find anything to throw a bomb into the investigation. The hyped up #Releasethememo hashtag stunt that every dullard Trump University enrollee was parroting for weeks was a big failure and made Nunes look like a fool. When that failed Rudy "Uncle Leo" Giuliani took over the cable news circuit as a last ditch effort.

    I guess we’ll see.

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    If released too soon anti-Trump MSM would kill impact before mid-terms
    how so?

    the MSM sure didn't kill the impact of "her emails" and Wikileaks, quite the reverse.

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    so Wikileaks and Deripaska were HRC cutouts moved into place to incriminate DJT?

    what's the scheme?
    Never said or even alluded to that. Just said the ties are peculiar.

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    so what's your working hypothesis?

    what strikes you as peculiar? more than a few blanks have to be filled in to make it a story.

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    hypothesis: the MSM was DJT's #1 supporter and #1 detractor.

    nobody else got as much free coverage. it wasn't even close.

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    how so?

    the MSM sure didn't kill the impact of "her emails" and Wikileaks, quite the reverse.
    Except it’s not the reverse and is exactly the same. MSM will be forced to report, there won’t be time to spin other narratives.

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    so what's your working hypothesis?

    what strikes you as peculiar? more than a few blanks have to be filled in to make it a story.
    It’s not a story yet. What strikes me as peculiar is Steele’s concern about Derispaka getting his visa.

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    Except it’s not the reverse and is exactly the same. MSM will be forced to report, there won’t be time to spin other narratives.
    We know all the classified information cuts in DJT's favor, so releasing it would be an unqualified benefit to Republicans. The MSM would be forced to report it and would have little time to spin counter-narratives.

    Right?

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    It’s not a story yet. What strikes me as peculiar is Steele’s concern about Derispaka getting his visa.
    Wariness becomes you.

    Are you running low on burn cream?

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    The idea that there is "nothing to declassify" is ludicrous. I would expect Trump to start with the 20 redacted pages of the June 2017 FISA renewal. After that we have 63 pages of emails and notes between Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele. Possibly the FD-302 summaries of the 12 FBI interviews concerning Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele as well. It's going to be an exciting month.

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    Wariness becomes you.

    Are you running low on burn cream?
    This place can’t burn me, I’m good.

    Do you not find the simultaneous links between Warner, Waldman, Steele, and Derispaka peculiar? Especially considering that Steele was working with the FBI at the same time?

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    The idea that there is "nothing to declassify" is ludicrous. I would expect Trump to start with the 20 redacted pages of the June 2017 FISA renewal. After that we have 63 pages of emails and notes between Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele. Possibly the FD-302 summaries of the 12 FBI interviews concerning Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele as well. It's going to be an exciting month.
    Yeah Rudy’s most recent interview said as much. It’s all coming out.

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    The difference is political experience.
    No the difference is the libs make you rage.

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    Do you not find the simultaneous links between Warner, Waldman, Steele, and Derispaka peculiar? Especially considering that Steele was working with the FBI at the same time?
    Common coincidences are commonly overblown, but there could be something to it.

    I'm not pot committed to a pre-established narrative, or to a desired outcome, unlike most posters in this thread.

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    It's going to be an exciting month.

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    Tensions flared up again during the trial between Andres and Ellis, who has repeatedly criticized the prosecutor’s courtroom etiquette, faulting him for various indiscretions such as not making eye contact when the judge is speaking to him.

    The source of friction Wednesday morning was what Ellis perceived as the Mueller prosecutor's overly casual responses to questions.

    At one point while Gates was on the stand and jurors were in the courtroom, Ellis asked the prosecutor a question about whether his questions followed on an earlier line of inquiry by the defense.

    “Yeah,” Andres responded.

    “What?” Ellis said, sounding incredulous and irritated.

    “Yes,” Andres replied.

    The exchange earned Andres a scolding. “Be careful about that,” he told Andres. “This is not an informal proceeding.”

    Despite the warning, moments later, Andres offered what sounded like a “yup” in response to another question from the judge.

    “I beg your pardon?” Ellis intoned, his irritation evident.

    “Yes, Judge,” Andres answered.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...k-gates-767370

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    Common coincidences are commonly overblown, but there could be something to it.

    I'm not pot committed to a pre-established narrative, or to a desired outcome, unlike most posters in this thread.
    It shows, and always respected that.

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    No the difference is the libs make you rage.
    Enough to make an alt to vent that rage?

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    that the FBI had dealings with an informant isn't so weird, but it seems kinda weird that a back-channel was maintained after the FBI supposedly cut ties with Steele for being unreliable.

    seems to me the Steele dossier and personal relationships are getting over-freighted with significance. it remains to be seen whether the declassifications go boom -- most people have already made up their minds.

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    I have my doubts that DJT can do selective declassication right. The FISA declassification kinda backfired.

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    lol collusion.

    you're as dumb as they are if you find that persuasive, Darrin
    no collusion. just delusion and illusion!

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    I'd not be troubled by any eventual conspiracy charges. but the lack of them wouldn't bother me much either. Mueller probably had Flynn dead to rights on conspiracy to start with.

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    This...

    These leaks probably mark the first time ever that the content of foreign intelligence intercepts aimed at foreign agents that swept up US-person information was leaked. They clearly aimed to damage US persons – ones who happen to also be senior US government officials.

    They were unlawful and, beyond that, they violated two until-now strict taboos about leaks – first on revealing the content of foreign intelligence information collected through electronic surveillance, and second on revealing the content of incidentally collected information about American citizens.

    Many people, including many who are not in the Trump camp, have interpreted these leaks to violate a third taboo by marking a return to the Hoover-era FBI’s use of secretly collected information to sabotage elected officials with adverse political interests.

    and this...

    There is, of course, the possibility that the anti-Trump leaks, on their face political and unprecedented, were nonetheless justified whistleblowing, akin perhaps to leaks about illegal surveillance programs or about illegal interrogation practices at CIA black sites. Put another way, it is possible that the benefits of the leaks, considered narrowly, outweigh the evil inherent in breaching the first two taboos above.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-michael-flynn



    ...can both be true at once.

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    I’ve never said NOW IT IS BOOM.
    You only said that Hillary was arrested last October.

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