If you’re looking to replace Fox down the road, Fears is your best bet. Fox is 27, and Feats will be 18 on draft night,so there’s a good apprenticeship period. He’s a super quick rim attacker with shooting potential.
You traded assets for Fox. So he should be a factor in things.
He can give us wins next year, but also be a mentor if we select a PG. We might not select one this year, if other opportunities are.there. We have lots of areas for improvement, so BPA.
I'm going to assume he's willing to show any new pups how things are done and be that team player.
Otherwise why did we give anything up for him?
Fox aging gracefully is him being good for another three years. I hope he's good beyond that, but we really need somebody better than him in the long run. Small guards don't really last that long in the league, with exceptions, and he's already injury prone.
As for Fears, I'm not against him, but it's not like we should be going out and looking for small, limited defense, okay distributing, just okay from range guards. Getting Fox was great because we badly needed talent and he didn't cost much. Again, we will be hurting because of his contract before long, though that's okay. But we didn't go out to get him because of his bad traits, which Fears shares, but because of his good ones, plus availability.
Just ignore Mr. Body's Fox takes, it's one of his usual gimmicks where he keeps digging himself deeper for no ing reason other than to trigger people.
There's not one thing I've said that is wrong. You just think of yourself as a 'crew' here, for some reason, and aren't aware that you're stuck in with a circular, badly reasoned group of simpleminded fools.
Here's what I said:
The guards are the best players in our picking range. True.
Existing players shouldn't impact that pick. True.
We shouldn't trade Castle because wtf is that? Some of the stupidest ever. True.
(Not stated: if we like a big, I'm fine with that, we also need those.)
Fox is not the longterm solution because, y'know, he's 28 and Wemby is 21. True.
Fox may not be very effective for longer than 3 years. Admittedly, my pessimism here. He could be a Parker/Paul, but... he's not as good as them, either.
Fox is going to be expensive and this affects moves we can make in the future. True.
So... lmao, what exactly isn't true about any of this? You idjits are just upset that your newest flight of fancy is dumb as -- trading Castle -- because it's so ing laughable. The rest is fine.
Oh, and, I don't think they'd pick Fears, really, because he presents the same problems as Fox. You have to cover for him defensively. His offense is not broadly defined (not a deep threat, not a great facilitator). Most of all, he can only play one position when trying to get multi-position players is important. True.
So... yeah. Get you and your dumb crew of 'boyz' together and have a dumb little circle jerk. They ain't trading Castle. Go cry about it.
I'll take this from another perspective... our team isn't good enough/doesn't have enough talent to worry about fit at ANY position, including center. I love Wemby, Fox and Castle as much as anyone... the presence of any of them shouldn't stop us from drafting any player in this class, because there is room on the roster for any of them. Guard is the best player? Take 'em. We'll need a third guard anyway and if they slot into Fox's successor for whenever that will be... great. Center is the best player available? Great. We need a backup and Wemby can play alongside for a certain number of minutes each game. Forward is an obvious need so no second thoughts there.
Wemby, Castle or Fox shouldn't stop us from drafting anyone, because we aren't drafting their replacement... we're drafting replacements for the rest of the roster.
I guess I'd ask is there any overwhelming talent who would be a clear BPA after the top 4? Someone good enough to ignore fit? I don't think Maluach, Kon, Tre Johnson, or anyone else after Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, and Bailey are the level of talent where you say this guy is too good to pass up even if he isn't really what we need. Edgecombe or Harper I get and Bailey is a great fit on paper at least, but you're probably drafting two role players. Or is there anyone you like that you see as a potential allstar who would be available #8 or later?
i think the most talented player after 4 is probably Queen but he comes with big fit concerns. even for a team with gaping hole at center... his defensive question marks are worth considering
Completely agree with this!
Guess if we wanted a straight interior scorer with no outside shot and major defensive red flags Edey would have been a way better choice.
Scott took it up a notch and included Wemby.
Would you take McNeeley over Fleming though? I'd really hope to get one of them out of the ATL pick.
Queen is much more of a hub. can give him the ball in the midrange and let him go to work and create.
How about you just go yourself?
A couple of months back you posted (don't make me dig it up) that Fox is a no defense, severely undersized, inefficent chucker who does nothing else.
I spent a decent amount of time and effort, posted actual stats and compared him to other similar guards around the league...only for you to disappear and never reply.
Ever since then, you do your usual ing thing of just triggerbaiting people with horrible takes, only to disappear when it's obvious you got nothing to back it up.
I'm not wasting any more effort on your bull .
Actually, I'll just add this.
It's obvious Fox isn't an MVP level player and will never be one, but he's a legit all-star guard we got for next to nothing. He clearly has flaws, much like any other players and noone ever denied it.
But your posts about him being an awful player were just bad troll attempts because you're not dumb and you know he's a good player with some flaws.
Now you're backtracking and trying to talk your way out of it as if you were objective from the beginning, but I just can't take you seriously because for months you've been ting on him as if we just got Bledsoe or some .
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Demin hasn't been mentioned for a while, but I wouldn't be surprised at the swing. He's floating around the end of the lottery right now, but could move up.
Clearly a project with significant rawness in his handle and shooting, a frame that needs to fill out, and athletic concerns, but his size and abilities are super intriguing. Parker here calls him the best passer in the draft and perhaps the best he's scouted in the three years he's done this series.
I could see going for a backup center here, if a Sorber is available, but this is still an era when they can swing at players. Depending on what happens with their earlier pick, if it's a sniper (Knueppel/Johnson), they can try a Demin to develop, especially as they will still have Harrison Barnes to cover that swing spot for now.
god, it's been painful to watch edey in this series against OKC. he is so one-dimensional.
So it's okay to infer that rascal is supposedly (reverse?) racially biased, but it's not okay to do likewise when the shoe is on the other foot? Got it.
Must mean doing so makes one racist, argumentative, arrogant and mentally challenged.
Sure Chinook, always love to read your opinion! We are all biased to some degree.
Yes. Jaku will be a good shooter. His free throw rate is 90% which indicates good 3-point accuracy. He is just having a down year.
How could you do that to your boy Sea Bass?
Here’s a hypothetical (a variant of something I heard on a podcast).
Assume Spurs jump to 4. Flagg, Harper and Edgecomb are gone.
Is Ace the obvious pick there?
Anyone noticed that Fleming's two eyes are further apart than usual?
Maybe that's the reason he shoots 3s well?
No. I would trade that pick down plus future pick.
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