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    Most big factory farms are looking to become bigger factory farms.

    Is this what AI is for?

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    Most big factory farms are looking to become bigger factory farms.

    Is this what AI is for?
    You'll need to ask AI

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    Meh, these Trump s always post their opinions from a position of intellectual superiority by run away when asked to back up their claims
    Run away = post and come back a few days or weeks later like i've done for 20 years and reply. I don't live to reply every 3 minutes like most here.

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    Most big factory farms are looking to become bigger factory farms.

    Is this what AI is for?
    Guys still can't figure out that AI is literally just a summary of the google search results. Prefer copy/paste from the one that fits the idea they love the best.

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    what do you think of Trump having the power to lay taxes?

    do you think it's ok for POTUS to use tariff money and impounded appropriations to do whatever he wants?
    I think the balance of the three branches of govt are important but in my lifetime it's got pretty bad. He's not the first to do what he wants with disregard and won't be the last. I think the correct way would have not been to use tariffs to bring manufacturing back but no one including you or I are ready to face the pain that goes along with it.

    America is pretty ed at this point. The people that get mad at one presidency just maybe were a little spoiled previously. Might have been free healthcare, subsidies, etc. New adminstration comes and its a differnt group mad. Pendulum keeps swinging back and forth.

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    India economy grows at faster-than-expected 8.2% in September quarter even as tariffs bite

    In a quarter partially affected by the 50% U.S. tariffs, the Indian economy grew faster than expected at an annual rate of 8.2% in the quarter ending in September.

    The growth was an acceleration from 7.8% in the previous quarter, when a lower deflator unexpectedly boosted real growth. A deflator measures how inflation affects the value of total output.

    A Reuters poll of economists had pegged the July-September gross domestic product at 7.3%.

    India’s nominal GDP — which does not account for inflation or deflation — grew 8.7% in the September quarter compared to 8.8% in the previous quarter.

    The sharp improvement in GDP growth rate was on account of a pick up in manufacturing and construction activity and domestic consumption. Financial and real estate professional services have “sustained a substantial growth rate” of 10.2% in Jul-Sep, the government said in a release.

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    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/28/indi...e-us-modi.html

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    I think the balance of the three branches of govt are important but in my lifetime it's got pretty bad. He's not the first to do what he wants with disregard and won't be the last. I think the correct way would have not been to use tariffs to bring manufacturing back but no one including you or I are ready to face the pain that goes along with it.

    America is pretty ed at this point. The people that get mad at one presidency just maybe were a little spoiled previously. Might have been free healthcare, subsidies, etc. New adminstration comes and its a differnt group mad. Pendulum keeps swinging back and forth.
    I agree that Trump is ing America, and I'm totally ready for SCOTUS to tell Donald trump his tariffs are illegal

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    Guys still can't figure out that AI is literally just a summary of the google search results. Prefer copy/paste from the one that fits the idea they love the best.
    Right, that's exactly what you did

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    Blue-Collar Jobs Are Collapsing Under Trump

    Coverage of the labor market in 2025 has taken on a decidedly white-collar tone, with artificial intelligence being cast as the principal long-term threat to the American workforce.

    With the ability to write billions of lines of code daily and conduct other repe ive, cognitive tasks at scales and speeds humans could never challenge, such fears are not unfounded, and AI has already been cited in many of the mass reductions announced by Amazon and other corporations in recent weeks.

    But for all the hand-wringing over the potentially ill-fated employees of Silicon Valley and Wall Street, a quieter crisis appears to be unfolding for the U.S.'s blue-collar employees, despite the pledges and efforts of the current administration to foster a renaissance in marquee industries such as construction and manufacturing.

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    Of the five industry groups or "supersectors" that could be broadly considered "blue collar"—manufacturing, mining and logging, transportation and warehousing, utilities, and construction—only the latter saw an increase in September. Construction's 19,000-job gain was also insufficient to offset the monthly loss of 25,300 jobs in transportation or manufacturing shedding a further 6,000.

    Year-over-year changes show that annual payroll declines have accelerated since January—albeit continuing a long-term trend—and have pushed blue-collar job growth into negative territory for the first time since the pandemic.

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    To Dean Baker, a co-founder of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, tariffs have been largely to blame for the uncertainty and "overall weakness in demand" that has driven cautious hiring across blue-collar sectors.

    "Companies are reluctant to invest in a context where they have no idea what tariffs will be in place six months from now, much less three to five years from now," he told Newsweek. "Also, tariffs pull money out of consumers' pockets, reducing demand."

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    Trump's tariffs are nakedly pretextual, it's not unthinkable SCOTUS will him over on this

    Costco Wholesale has sued the Trump administration, asking the Court of International Trade to consider all tariffs collected under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act unlawful.

    The company said in a filing Friday that it is seeking a “full refund” of all duties under the act paid as a result of President Donald Trump's executive order that imposed what he called "reciprocal" tariffs.

    “Because IEEPA does not clearly authorize the President to set tariffs ... the Challenged Tariff Orders cannot stand and the defendants are not authorized to implement and collect them,” Costco's lawyer writes in the lawsuit.
    Global cosmetics giant Revlon, eyeglass maker EssilorLuxottica, motorcycle manufacturer Kawasaki, canned foods seller Bumble Bee, Japanese auto supplier Yokohama Tire and many smaller firms have also filed similar suits
    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bus...nds-rcna246860
    Last edited by Winehole23; 12-02-2025 at 06:20 AM.

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    Right, that's exactly what you did
    I cherry picked a link that was slanted to what my opinion was?

    off.

    You've tried to portray me as a Trump guy when I think he's almost as ty as Biden or Hillary.

    You've tried to summarize me as a socialist because you assume farmers want subsidies.

    Do you have any actual thoughts or do you just go along with what you think other people want to hear?

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    I cherry picked a link that was slanted to what my opinion was?

    off.

    You've tried to portray me as a Trump guy when I think he's almost as ty as Biden or Hillary.

    You've tried to summarize me as a socialist because you assume farmers want subsidies.

    Do you have any actual thoughts or do you just go along with what you think other people want to hear?
    yes, your question was slanted to AI to get the answer you wanted. If that's not "cherry picking", you tell me what it is and we'll roll with that.

    Watch this:

    "Are farmers looking to sell land?"

    AI Mode

    "Yes, many farmers are looking to sell land due to factors like an aging farmer population with no successors, financial pressures from rising costs, and incentives to sell to developers or solar companies....."

    Golly look at that.

    Why are you so sensitive? This is just a message board.

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    yes, your question was slanted to AI to get the answer you wanted. If that's not "cherry picking", you tell me what it is and we'll roll with that.

    Watch this:

    "Are farmers looking to sell land?"

    AI Mode

    "Yes, many farmers are looking to sell land due to factors like an aging farmer population with no successors, financial pressures from rising costs, and incentives to sell to developers or solar companies....."

    Golly look at that.

    Why are you so sensitive? This is just a message board.
    Hey here's the resident farmer to say that's not right.

    Blake: I don't believe you

    AI Summary.......

    Blake: I don't believe that.....

    Reworded Web search to slant AI in a different direction....

    Blake. I don't believe you.....

    Are farms looking to downsize acres?

    No, the overall trend is not downsizing, but rather consolidation of farms into fewer, larger operations. While individual farmers may choose to downsize for personal reasons, the general trend is a decline in the number of farms, an increase in average farm size, and a decrease in total farmland.

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    Hey here's the resident farmer to say that's not right.

    Blake: I don't believe you

    AI Summary.......

    Blake: I don't believe that.....

    Reworded Web search to slant AI in a different direction....

    Blake. I don't believe you.....

    Are farms looking to downsize acres?

    No, the overall trend is not downsizing, but rather consolidation of farms into fewer, larger operations. While individual farmers may choose to downsize for personal reasons, the general trend is a decline in the number of farms, an increase in average farm size, and a decrease in total farmland.
    Lol "downsize for personal reasons". What weak bull .

    So much for your original point of "everyone's looking to expand"

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    at least sickdsm is kind of trying to say what he means

    most conservative posters here won't or can't

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    at least sickdsm is kind of trying to say what he means

    most conservative posters here won't or can't
    F for effort I guess

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    F for effort I guess
    I would be more lenient, why not a D?

    Effort was made, most posters here are content to gargle blood and cackle at others' miseries

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    Trump's import taxes have multiplied red tape and liability


    https://www.cato.org/blog/us-busines...sand-papercuts

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    the freight/goods recession is real

    hitting warehouses too

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    bailout for soybean farmers wrecked by Trump's tariffs

    htps://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-to-unveil-12-billion-bailout-for-farmers-064eb1de?st=Ac7rZg

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    China’s trade surplus tops $1 trillion as its exports surge

    HONG KONG (AP) — China’s exports rebounded in November after an unexpected contraction the previous month, pushing its trade surplus past $1 trillion for the first time, according to data released Monday.

    Exports climbed 5.9% from a year earlier in November while imports rose just under 2%.

    The customs data released on Monday also showed that shipments to the U.S. dropped nearly 29% year-on-year. But as trade with the U.S. weakens, China is diversifying its export markets throughout Southeast Asia, Africa, Europe and Latin America.

    China’s exports had contracted just over 1% in October. November’s worldwide exports of $330.3 billion exceeded economists’ estimates. Imports totaled $218.6 billion for the month.

    The nearly $1.08 trillion trade surplus for the first 11 months of this year is a record high, surpassing the $992 billion surplus for all of 2024, based on official data compiled by FactSet.

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    https://apnews.com/article/china-tra...00c54bec1d79dd

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    Just wait. China's gonna be begging to buy our factory bananas any day now.

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    Just wait. China's gonna be begging to buy our factory bananas any day now.
    Side note, banana factory technician sounds like a great career for any new college graduate. MAGA!

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    Elon says Grok is will manufacture bananas on its own in about two years.

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